Wanderers CEO John Tsatsimas To Quit At End Of Season

3 for sure given your options haha 

As Tsatsimas bought in Rudan, is that to say that Rudan is definitely on his way out at season's end?

Rudan's last presser, he was kinda wearing his heart on his sleeve being a westie and all.

I wonder if he's now invested and wants to make the Wanderers the big club we all hope for.

18 hours ago, hughsey said:

A manager who has proven success in the aleague and also some good fortune. We’ve had a decent share of managers with great resumes who ended up being total frauds. That couldn’t be accounted for by anyone.

Did they really have great resumes, tho?

Gombau's resume ...something something " from Barcelona"..... And that run down the sidelines at Adelaide...and sliding on his knees in a suit created   in some, including me....but....

Babel's resume I don't recall being that great. I think people got deliriously excited by his incredible profile as a player, but I seem to recall that as a manager, he had not had an impressive run (I think there were player walkouts at a previous club?)

CR seemed to have turned the ship around at Newcastle for half a season, and before that ?????? 

Who selected them?

PS Hughsie might well be right tho, and I'm not arguing with his overall position.  JT's departure might not be the silver bullet we are all craving. Things are probably very complicated for the club to be in the utter mess it's in.

PS I'm with WB, for what it's worth re Rudan. What is Hughsie's position on Rudan? Apologies if that's been covered before - I'm a bit behind here.

5 minutes ago, wendybr said:

Did they really have great resumes, tho?

Gombau's resume ...something something " from Barcelona"..... And that run down the sidelines at Adelaide...and sliding on his knees in a suit created   in some, including me....but....

Babel's resume I don't recall being that great. I think people got deliriously excited by his incredible profile as a player, but I seem to recall that as a manager, he had not had an impressive run (I think there were player walkouts at a previous club?)

CR seemed to have turned the ship around at Newcastle for half a season, and before that ?????? 

Who selected them?

 

PS Hughsie might well be right tho, and I'm not arguing with his overall position.  JT's departure might not be the silver bullet we are all craving. Things are probably very complicated for the club to be in the utter mess it's in.

PS I'm with WB, for what it's worth re Rudan. What is Hughsie's position on Rudan? Apologies if that's been covered before - I'm a bit behind here.

I seem to recall you wanting Gombau because you sat near him once (or walked out of a stadium once) and he was a really nice super guy 

In all of this I think we should also proportion some blame on the players as well......how much though an to what extent....?

11 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

I seem to recall you wanting Gombau because you sat near him once (or walked out of a stadium once) and he was a really nice super guy 

 

Yep! More fool me!  

That and the knee slide in his suit when his Adelaide team scored a goal and won....something or other! 

Just now, wendybr said:

Yep! More fool me!  

That and the knee slide in his suit when his Adelaide team scored a goal and won....something or other! 

PS It was his passion on display...as I saw it!

8 minutes ago, sonar said:

In all of this I think we should also proportion some blame on the players as well......how much though an to what extent....?

There HAS to be something  fundamentally wrong for them not to give there all, imho....if you're saying they're not trying their hardest?

Players cannot ever NOT be trying to impress and and make things work. There are 1000s of eyes on everything they do. They have to be doing their best, within the parameters of what they've been told to do, and how they've been told to do it. IMO

1 minute ago, wendybr said:

There HAS to be something  fundamentally wrong for them not to give there all, imho....if you're saying they're not trying their hardest?

Players cannot ever NOT be trying to impress and and make things work. There are 1000s of eyes on everything they do. They have to be doing their best, within the parameters of what they've been told to do, and how they've been told to do it. IMO

There's been some mighty decent efforts from some of them at being traffic cones in attack and defence in recent seasons trbh.....

An A league player signed with Newcastle this week , Rudan may have left Dimi in Newcastle on Wednesday night as a free agent or left a package deal Dimi and Bernie , just saying!!!!

6 minutes ago, Keithie said:

An A league player signed with Newcastle this week , Rudan may have left Dimi in Newcastle on Wednesday night as a free agent or left a package deal Dimi and Bernie , just saying!!!!

Can't be those 2.....not 'A League' quality 

We’ve tried new managers, different style managers, over 100 players have worn the jersey and we’re actually trending downward. Complete overhaul of the football department has to be the next step. 

Of course there is the distinct possibility that they’ll **** it up again and nothing will change, but it’s the only move that’s give us the chance to take some steps in the right direction. 

2 hours ago, wendybr said:

Gombau's resume ...something something " from Barcelona".

To his credit he went to school with ManWell at fawltyTowers Primary.

2 hours ago, wendybr said:

CR seemed to have turned the ship around at Newcastle for half a season,

Yes, the next ship sunk though!

2 hours ago, wendybr said:

Did they really have great resumes, tho?

Gombau's resume ...something something " from Barcelona"..... And that run down the sidelines at Adelaide...and sliding on his knees in a suit created   in some, including me....but....

Babel's resume I don't recall being that great. I think people got deliriously excited by his incredible profile as a player, but I seem to recall that as a manager, he had not had an impressive run (I think there were player walkouts at a previous club?)

CR seemed to have turned the ship around at Newcastle for half a season, and before that ?????? 

Who selected them?

 

PS Hughsie might well be right tho, and I'm not arguing with his overall position.  JT's departure might not be the silver bullet we are all craving. Things are probably very complicated for the club to be in the utter mess it's in.

PS I'm with WB, for what it's worth re Rudan. What is Hughsie's position on Rudan? Apologies if that's been covered before - I'm a bit behind here.

Resumes aside, Carl and Gombau as an example were actually requested by many WSW fans and the club listened. Babels appointment was applauded by many. Very little objection to those 3, if any.  

When those appointments didn’t work out (which very few, if any, could’ve predicted), those same fans turned around and started blaming the club. Hindsight is a very convenient tool when it comes to blaming people. 

I don’t envy the people running or paying for this club at all. WSW fans as a collective can be some of the most entitled and hypocritical armchair experts around. Sometimes I feel like this fan base secretly love all the drama. 

2 hours ago, wendybr said:

There HAS to be something  fundamentally wrong for them not to give there all, imho....if you're saying they're not trying their hardest?

Players cannot ever NOT be trying to impress and and make things work. There are 1000s of eyes on everything they do. They have to be doing their best, within the parameters of what they've been told to do, and how they've been told to do it. IMO

Let’s not clear the players of all/any guilt. I definitely don’t agree that every single player to have pulled on red and black over the past several years, has given absolutely 100% from their first to their last game. Yes the managers have been especially poor tactically and given reason for waning motivation, but at the end of the day it’s the players who take the field and need to accept responsibility for the actual performance. Professional team sport athletes get away with murder these days imo cause it’s easier to blame/sack 1 manager/coach than 11, 13, 15 etc players. 

Aleague players are also backed by a PFA hellbent on turning professional football into a safe space where players expect the same job security as a public servant in a typical government department role.

The salary cap has also created a roundabout where if you fail at a big club, a smaller club will be grateful to have you and many players dine out on that. 

1 hour ago, hughsey said:

Let’s not clear the players of all/any guilt. I definitely don’t agree that every single player to have pulled on red and black over the past several years, has given absolutely 100% from their first to their last game. Yes the managers have been especially poor tactically and given reason for waning motivation, but at the end of the day it’s the players who take the field and need to accept responsibility for the actual performance. Professional team sport athletes get away with murder these days imo cause it’s easier to blame/sack 1 manager/coach than 11, 13, 15 etc players. 

Aleague players are also backed by a PFA hellbent on turning professional football into a safe space where players expect the same job security as a public servant in a typical government department role.

The salary cap has also created a roundabout where if you fail at a big club, a smaller club will be grateful to have you and many players dine out on that. 

All fair enough, Hughsie!

2 hours ago, hughsey said:

Resumes aside, Carl and Gombau as an example were actually requested by many WSW fans and the club listened. Babels appointment was applauded by many. Very little objection to those 3, if any.  

When those appointments didn’t work out (which very few, if any, could’ve predicted), those same fans turned around and started blaming the club. Hindsight is a very convenient tool when it comes to blaming people. 

I don’t envy the people running or paying for this club at all. WSW fans as a collective can be some of the most entitled and hypocritical armchair experts around. Sometimes I feel like this fan base secretly love all the drama. 

If the club is listening to fan suggestions on coaching then we have bigger issues that it seems. Yes, some here may have thought they would do a good job and threw their name up as a suggestion, but it’s the clubs job to do due diligence and actually make sure they can do the job. 

2 hours ago, hughsey said:

Let’s not clear the players of all/any guilt. I definitely don’t agree that every single player to have pulled on red and black over the past several years, has given absolutely 100% from their first to their last game. Yes the managers have been especially poor tactically and given reason for waning motivation, but at the end of the day it’s the players who take the field and need to accept responsibility for the actual performance. Professional team sport athletes get away with murder these days imo cause it’s easier to blame/sack 1 manager/coach than 11, 13, 15 etc players. 

Aleague players are also backed by a PFA hellbent on turning professional football into a safe space where players expect the same job security as a public servant in a typical government department role.

The salary cap has also created a roundabout where if you fail at a big club, a smaller club will be grateful to have you and many players dine out on that. 

You played in many hierarchically structured teams Hughsey?

1 minute ago, matty said:

You played in many hierarchically structured teams Hughsey?

I have actually and without tooting my own horn I’ve played at a decent level where management/coaching structure is fairly regimented. I still stand by my comments. 

The teams never had a CEO though 😉

8 minutes ago, hughsey said:

I have actually and without tooting my own horn I’ve played at a decent level where management/coaching structure is fairly regimented. I still stand by my comments. 

The teams never had a CEO though 😉

I'm surprised by your comments then. 

I've learnt that unhappy or disgruntled players don't make a good team.

12 hours ago, hughsey said:

I don’t envy the people running or paying for this club at all. WSW fans as a collective can be some of the most entitled and hypocritical armchair experts around. Sometimes I feel like this fan base secretly love all the drama. 

There's plenty in this....I see there's outrage at today's postponement now !!

12 hours ago, billybob said:

If the club is listening to fan suggestions on coaching then we have bigger issues that it seems. Yes, some here may have thought they would do a good job and threw their name up as a suggestion, but it’s the clubs job to do due diligence and actually make sure they can do the job. 

Yeah when we say we want the club to listen to us, I don’t think any are expecting to have a say in what manager we chose. Tickets, merch, game day stuff etc then sure but I’m not expecting much more than that. 

2 hours ago, Sithslayer1991 said:

languishing in NPL 2 while the Mariners and Smurf squads are in NPL 1

Definitely should be competing at that level.

Some of the BIG euro clubs have their "B" teams in the next tier down.In Portugal  Porto and Benfica have teams in SegunaLiga .In commentary you here sometimes that players coming to A league have been on the books of a Big club but only in the B division.

On 26/02/2022 at 9:46 AM, StringerBellend said:

Ok unpopular opinion time 

JT and the RBB I'm with JT 

You can't smuggle in homophobic banners to a derby or let off 13 flares in melbourne  then complain when there is a fallout 

JTs wife "you coming home for dinner tonight love Ive cooked your favourite spag Bol"

" No sorry love have to stay at the office a group of fans have decided that a homophobic banners is still acceptable and somehow clever.. I've got to convince a couple of major sponsors to not pull out of the club, then I've got to convince the daily telegraph to not say we are terrorists.."

 

"But yer not"

"Yeah well since the same group of fans thought that letting off 15 flares is a good idea"

 

"Ok I'll put it in the fridge for you, heat it up when you get home"

 

 

 

😂 yep that was the downfall 

17 minutes ago, BananaRBTV said:

😂 yep that was the downfall 

Hey Banana,

Glad you are on here, love your(meaning the 4 of you)stuff.

Wasn't quite the atmosphere of just you and Malta when the others couldn't make it.But you and Malta were GOOD,the 4 of you are GOODer.

I suggested the champagne instead of scotch(if you read that?).

Interview starts 18 minutes in.

22 hours ago, Sithslayer1991 said:

We also need to look at our youth team still languishing in NPL 2 while the Mariners and Smurf squads are in NPL 1, which means their players are in a better position to make the jump to the first squad.

Great post SS1991. Just a correction on the Mariners youth squad. They are still in NPL2 with the Wanderers. You may be thinking of the Northbridge Bulls who were purchased by Macarthur, dodgily buying their way into NPL1 for their youth players. Under Zwaanswijk last season, the Wanderers youth were looking good for promotion until Covid saw the season cut short and pro/rel was cancelled for the year. It's crazy that Zwaanswijk wasn't taken better care of by the club.

12 minutes ago, JustWandering said:

Great post SS1991. Just a correction on the Mariners youth squad. They are still in NPL2 with the Wanderers. You may be thinking of the Northbridge Bulls who were purchased by Macarthur, dodgily buying their way into NPL1 for their youth players. Under Zwaanswijk last season, the Wanderers youth were looking good for promotion until Covid saw the season cut short and pro/rel was cancelled for the year. It's crazy that Zwaanswijk wasn't taken better care of by the club.

Oh yep my mistake regardless NPL 1 is a must for the squad the difference between NPL 1 players and A-league players is that its semi professional but the ability of a lot of this players would prepare the youth squad better for the jump to first team. You also highlight Zwaanswijk role and yea there you go why wasn't he kept at the club, it just boggles the mind same with Heffernan and Beachamp.

It needs fresh eyes over the whole structure to make better use of our resources. 10 years of JT would have been the same thing with more wooden spoons.

2 hours ago, mack said:

Interview starts 18 minutes in.

Very light weight interview. More a tribute to his tenure than revelatory even though Cornthwaite did try to probe without success.