Paul Lederer Stands Down As Wanderers Chairman

On 18/06/2024 at 9:27 AM, theguyyouwishyouwere said:

Joe Montemurro - Success

nevermind, got the Olypique Lyon job.

Marcelo ..... no longer a Wanderer

38 minutes ago, WanderingToqui said:

Marcelo ..... no longer a Wanderer

 ….ohno…..prob the only genuine on pitch leader we had at the club. His presence and mentality will be a loss.

What the F&%K is going on at the club ????

Players leaving, tumbleweeds blowing by and crickets chirping. We've lost our captain. There's no coach.

We're on the backfoot it seems ........ yet again.

29 minutes ago, WanderingToqui said:

What the F&%K is going on at the club ????

Players leaving, tumbleweeds blowing by and crickets chirping. We've lost our captain. There's no coach.

We're on the backfoot it seems ........ yet again.

 

The club is on the nose…it stinks. No ****er wants anything to do with us.

Cant say I blame them like.

Mariners owner is saying the central payment from the combined APL finances to the club is going to be lowered by $1 million that might have impacted signings.

Or the club are just waiting for marketing hype purposes.

19 hours ago, WanderingToqui said:

What the F&%K is going on at the club ????

Players leaving, tumbleweeds blowing by and crickets chirping. We've lost our captain. There's no coach.

We're on the backfoot it seems ........ yet again.

 

Usually its our club, this time it isn't every A-league club has released big players from the roster. Easts lost Mak, Victory basically lost their defence and coach.

The reason is the low tv distribution which means lower salary. This is why I am curious why we are not offering pro and Scholarship contracts to the youth. They are a good team so head scratcher

Anyone getting a last days of the NPL vibe 

So while on the other threads we were talking NSD

let's say and it isn't beyond the realms of possibility the A League collapses 

Paramount 10 pull out or lower their $ even further.

The A League collapses, that couldn't happen in Australian football could it? never has.... Oh 

And given that the old NSL efnik clubs have survived multiple attempts to wipe them out and are the clubs looking for any NSD

There is now no A League and all that is left is a bunch of NPL teams saying told you so.

What happens? Maybe they try and from a new National Soccer League sponsored by Philips say.

What A League teams would survive and play on this new Phillips NSL?

Us? Probably someone has to use all those practice pitches 

Sydney and Victory probably would 

Coasties can run on that budget 

But

Nix (they are gone no way they can travel on that)

City would CFG bother with a semi pro league?

Roar? They are stuffed as it is 

Yours south Melbourne Bellend 

5 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

What happens? Maybe they try and from a new National Soccer League sponsored by Philips say.

NSW/Victoria super league + Adelaide.

Roar, Mariners, Macarthur, Jets, Perth, Auckland, Canberra, Nix, WU all die or switch to state NPL.

Have a league of:

1. Adelaide United
2. Melb City
3. Melb Victory
4. Sydney FC
5. WSW
6. Rockdale
7. APIA
8. Marconi
9. Wollongong
10. Sydney United
11. Sydney Olympic
12. South Melbourne
13. Melbourne Knights
14. Oakleigh
15. Avondale
16. Preston Lions

That's the core A-League clubs, the confirmed NSD teams and a couple that are likely to enter the NSD later. Could probably add two more teams at some point and those could be a Canberra team or the Jets, Mariners, or if Adelaide don't join. Would be cheaper to run than the A-League as you aren't flying teams to Perth, Brisbane & New Zealand. Would assume they play in winter and the A-League clubs would start investing in their own boutique stadiums.

2 hours ago, mack said:

NSW/Victoria super league + Adelaide.

Roar, Mariners, Macarthur, Jets, Perth, Auckland, Canberra, Nix, WU all die or switch to state NPL.

Have a league of:

1. Adelaide United
2. Melb City
3. Melb Victory
4. Sydney FC
5. WSW
6. Rockdale
7. APIA
8. Marconi
9. Wollongong
10. Sydney United
11. Sydney Olympic
12. South Melbourne
13. Melbourne Knights
14. Oakleigh
15. Avondale
16. Preston Lions

That's the core A-League clubs, the confirmed NSD teams and a couple that are likely to enter the NSD later. Could probably add two more teams at some point and those could be a Canberra team or the Jets, Mariners, or if Adelaide don't join. Would be cheaper to run than the A-League as you aren't flying teams to Perth, Brisbane & New Zealand. Would assume they play in winter and the A-League clubs would start investing in their own boutique stadiums.

 

I'd be down with this, i'd rather watch us play Apia at Leichhardt Oval than the days of us v the Nix in a 80k stadium 

3 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

Anyone getting a last days of the NPL vibe 

Yep. This is exactly where we are headed. And it won’t be long before we get there.

I'm not watching any of this s.h.i.t in the middle of winter.

24 minutes ago, WHACKO said:

I'm not watching any of this s.h.i.t in the middle of winter.

It's an Australian winter it's not exactly Goodison in sub zero

1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

It's an Australian winter it's not exactly Goodison in sub zero

It's still not worth watching. 

Yeah, it's only 5c, raining and 30 kmph winds. Perfect viewing conditions.

38 minutes ago, mack said:

Yeah, it's only 5c, raining and 30 kmph winds. Perfect viewing conditions.

Ppfffttt thats a decent summers day at the Riverside Stadium Middlesbrough.

6 hours ago, mack said:

NSW/Victoria super league + Adelaide.

Roar, Mariners, Macarthur, Jets, Perth, Auckland, Canberra, Nix, WU all die or switch to state NPL.

Have a league of:

1. Adelaide United
2. Melb City
3. Melb Victory
4. Sydney FC
5. WSW
6. Rockdale
7. APIA
8. Marconi
9. Wollongong
10. Sydney United
11. Sydney Olympic
12. South Melbourne
13. Melbourne Knights
14. Oakleigh
15. Avondale
16. Preston Lions

That's the core A-League clubs, the confirmed NSD teams and a couple that are likely to enter the NSD later. Could probably add two more teams at some point and those could be a Canberra team or the Jets, Mariners, or if Adelaide don't join. Would be cheaper to run than the A-League as you aren't flying teams to Perth, Brisbane & New Zealand. Would assume they play in winter and the A-League clubs would start investing in their own boutique stadiums.

 

Looks like a return to NSL vibes to me.

Jefferson Cheng resigned from his role with the Philippines Women's National Team this past Thursday. Looks like things are opening up for him to be the new chairman.

I wonder who's been steering the ship these past couple of weeks?? Seems we're drifting more than normal and at a time when there is supposed to be a rigorous process of review happening - and the small, insignificant task of finding a coach and putting a team together.

I wonder if these businessmen run their businesses like this???

Nope, they’ve 99 problems and steading the Ship ain’t one of ‘em!

No hopes, no problems!

I think its kind of rudderless until the chairman position is confirmed.... I mean that's what it looks like. Or they are waiting for 30th June when majority contracts expire.

Seriously the club needs a football director to manage operations even stuff in background is on fire.

On 22/06/2024 at 2:37 PM, StringerBellend said:

Anyone getting a last days of the NPL vibe 

So while on the other threads we were talking NSD

let's say and it isn't beyond the realms of possibility the A League collapses 

A little bit of it but no, the A-League is in a much better position than the NSL was. A-League is in this position because of the previous management at the APL.

On 22/06/2024 at 2:37 PM, StringerBellend said:

Paramount 10 pull out or lower their $ even further.

That's the most likely thing that will happen, the current deal was $200m over 5 years, which was supposed to be $40m per season but somehow, the APL negotiated and incentivise deal which is by far the worse TV deal in history of any sport in this country. And because of this, the APL got the short end of the tv deal with less cash, and if it's true what Paramount and 10 are preparing to distribute this season is less than half what the APL was supposed to give per season, then I can see the next TV deal is going to be peanuts, the APL might as well broadcast the matches for free on Facebook and Youtube.

On 22/06/2024 at 2:37 PM, StringerBellend said:

The A League collapses, that couldn't happen in Australian football could it? never has.... Oh 

I don't think the A-League will collapse.

On 22/06/2024 at 2:37 PM, StringerBellend said:

And given that the old NSL efnik clubs have survived multiple attempts to wipe them out and are the clubs looking for any NSD

There is now no A League and all that is left is a bunch of NPL teams saying told you so.

What happens? Maybe they try and from a new National Soccer League sponsored by Philips say.

If the League does collapse, then it will be back to the drawing boards for the FA to restructure the domestic leagues and the current football pyramid. We could be at least 1 or 2 seasons without professional national competition and the current A-League teams would have to compete in the NPL.

On 22/06/2024 at 2:37 PM, StringerBellend said:

What A League teams would survive and play on this new Phillips NSL?

Lets just say they decided to re-launch the new national domestic league runned by the FA with 16 clubs, the FA will have strict financial requirements for operations for the clubs to run as a full-time professional club so they can be as financially  sustainable as possible.

So in this case, I can't see the Central Coast Mariners having the financial capabilities anymore to run as a full-time pro club. Their owner has suggested that the league should be semi-pro and so that they don't have to pay players a full-time wage and 6-figure salaries.

Brisbane Roar are a basket case of a football club, the bakeries have run this club to the ground, and if or when the league collapses, the Roar will be dead too.

Some NSL clubs who think they can be Full-time pro clubs also aren't capable of being full-time pro clubs so that effectively rules out the likes of South Melbourne and Sydney Olympic.

I doubt the Nux and Auckland FC will play in the NZ domestic league as that league is still borderline semi-pro/amateur standards.

So the league will be this.

1. Perth Glory
2. Adelaide Utd
3. Melbourne Victory
4. Melbourne City
5. Western Utd
6. Auckland FC
7. Wellington Phoenix
8. Canberra Utd/FC/Union (whatever they will be called)
9. Wollongong Wolves
10. Macarthur
11. WSW
12. Sydney FC
13. Newcastle Jets
14. Gold Coast Utd/Knights
15. Brisbane City/Strikers
16. Sunshine Coast

5 hours ago, Sithslayer1991 said:

I think its kind of rudderless until the chairman position is confirmed.... I mean that's what it looks like. Or they are waiting for 30th June when majority contracts expire.

 

Seriously the club needs a football director to manage operations even stuff in background is on fire.

They have one apparently it's Bosnar 

5 hours ago, SBW said:

A little bit of it but no, the A-League is in a much better position than the NSL was. A-League is in this position because of the previous management at the APL.

That's the most likely thing that will happen, the current deal was $200m over 5 years, which was supposed to be $40m per season but somehow, the APL negotiated and incentivise deal which is by far the worse TV deal in history of any sport in this country. And because of this, the APL got the short end of the tv deal with less cash, and if it's true what Paramount and 10 are preparing to distribute this season is less than half what the APL was supposed to give per season, then I can see the next TV deal is going to be peanuts, the APL might as well broadcast the matches for free on Facebook and Youtube.

I don't think the A-League will collapse.

If the League does collapse, then it will be back to the drawing boards for the FA to restructure the domestic leagues and the current football pyramid. We could be at least 1 or 2 seasons without professional national competition and the current A-League teams would have to compete in the NPL.

Lets just say they decided to re-launch the new national domestic league runned by the FA with 16 clubs, the FA will have strict financial requirements for operations for the clubs to run as a full-time professional club so they can be as financially  sustainable as possible.

So in this case, I can't see the Central Coast Mariners having the financial capabilities anymore to run as a full-time pro club. Their owner has suggested that the league should be semi-pro and so that they don't have to pay players a full-time wage and 6-figure salaries.

Brisbane Roar are a basket case of a football club, the bakeries have run this club to the ground, and if or when the league collapses, the Roar will be dead too.

Some NSL clubs who think they can be Full-time pro clubs also aren't capable of being full-time pro clubs so that effectively rules out the likes of South Melbourne and Sydney Olympic.

I doubt the Nux and Auckland FC will play in the NZ domestic league as that league is still borderline semi-pro/amateur standards.

So the league will be this.

1. Perth Glory
2. Adelaide Utd
3. Melbourne Victory
4. Melbourne City
5. Western Utd
6. Auckland FC
7. Wellington Phoenix
8. Canberra Utd/FC/Union (whatever they will be called)
9. Wollongong Wolves
10. Macarthur
11. WSW
12. Sydney FC
13. Newcastle Jets
14. Gold Coast Utd/Knights
15. Brisbane City/Strikers
16. Sunshine Coast

 the nux wouldn't be happy about playing back in the NZ domestic league but without the Tv cash I don't see how they or the league can afford the travel costs so surely they are gone.

Auckland too. The other way to look at it is what does the APL get out of having NZ teams? If sky aren't covering the costs than I can't see how it can exist 

THe scenario I was thinking is of us that  the A League collapses due to lack of TV $.

So what next 

- another go at franchise footy? Surely that would be less teams not more?

- a return of the NSL where no club expects to make money and it is borderline semi pro 

In that scenario, why would Bulls exist (might as well just be Sydney United and have done with it)

City, is CFG going to run a community club?