Josep Gombau Is New Wanderers Manager

5 minutes ago, FCB said:

Let's sign Ante! Not available. Dreads!

Let's sign a German with a rock solid defensive philosophy. Too expensive. Dreads!

But wait: we want to play like Barca. How could we forget?! Let's sign Gombau and give him a three year contract. And he can stay for the rest of his football career at WSW, Lederer says.

Huh?

Am I the only one who feels a little dizzy? 

I think Gombau has the Barcelona philosophy from his days at La Masia, rather than just wanting to be Barcelona lite.

His other plus is understanding of youth development having being at La Masia for many years. He looks like he going to finish what Popa started but the standard Wanderers could change from the 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 or even have some freedom for Academy teams. What I hope is that Academy are allowed to change formation to suit their opponents.

https://www.playersvoice.com.au/josep-gombau-in-presence-of-cruyff/#CflGwDD5022AV0sZ.97

Josep has written this himself, so it will be much easier to understand

1 hour ago, Wanderer74 said:

https://www.playersvoice.com.au/josep-gombau-in-presence-of-cruyff/#CflGwDD5022AV0sZ.97

Josep has written this himself, so it will be much easier to understand

Hey Prydz,

This should have the capacity to give you sleepless nights :-)

"Now it is my time to come here and take the club on this new challenge, to play a bit differently. With Popovic they played very good football. But a little bit more aggressive in terms of attacking, this is what we will try to do."

"We discussed very clearly with the owners and the CEO that this is a long project, something we want to build together. There will be a building time we need. We will do it. It won’t be easy in the beginning."

exactly what I am worried about.

I give it 3 games of aimless sideways and backwards passing, of corny being told he has to play a high line and forlornly chasing strikers as they steam in 1on1 with the keeper etc before #gombauout is trending on social media.

15 hours ago, btron3000 said:

The pizza place near Gosford station is the business.

That is the place to go  

17 hours ago, lloydy136 said:

well said prydz but I think you are right mate that we are pretty much on our own in terms of having concern about gombau's style. i really do think that people remember gombau's antics more than his foootball. sections of our fanbase have struggled to cope with slow build up play at times over the past couple of seasons - what are they expecting to see from gombau?

I think people like to see passion, running down the sideline to celebrate with the team and giving it back to journo’s (we would all love him instantly if he gave bossi some medicine  ) but you’re right, do people really remember much from his days from Adelaide? Even when he got the team going, it was never title winning type stuff.

It reminds me of people with Australia. After Pim and Holger, we wanted more attacking football but now that we have that attacking brand with Ange we realise that it’s not exactly what we thought it would be results wise.

18 hours ago, Legionista said:

Very important that we make steady progress to playing a good brand of football. 

Hopefully he will get us playing. 

Would love to see steady progress but from what we have heard from him, it seems like he wants to hit the ground running.

3 hours ago, FCB said:

Let's sign Ante! Not available. Dreads!

Let's sign a German with a rock solid defensive philosophy. Too expensive. Dreads!

But wait: we want to play like Barca. How could we forget?! Let's sign Gombau and give him a three year contract. And he can stay for the rest of his football career at WSW, Lederer says.

Huh?

Am I the only one who feels a little dizzy? 

I am very confused regarding the clubs line of thinking in regards to our clubs direction. When you consider the first two options we were going for and how polar opposite the managers philosophy  to running man. It makes me dizzy too  

45 minutes ago, FCB said:

Hey Prydz,

This should have the capacity to give you sleepless nights :-)

Thanks FCB  

2 hours ago, FCB said:

Hey Prydz,

This should have the capacity to give you sleepless nights :-)

"Now it is my time to come here and take the club on this new challenge, to play a bit differently. With Popovic they played very good football. But a little bit more aggressive in terms of attacking, this is what we will try to do."

"We discussed very clearly with the owners and the CEO that this is a long project, something we want to build together. There will be a building time we need. We will do it. It won’t be easy in the beginning."

 

 

 

Yep the long project not easy in the beginning stuff worries me too. We are already falling behind top 2.

While I don’t think ESFC are as strong as last year if they get much further ahead it will hard to pull back.  

Sorry to go modern football fan but I don’t have the patience for another crap season. With the squad we have, we should be challenging.

However the talk of changing things up is good. My hope is Gombau has us attacking with some purpose. The end of the Adelaide cup game was us doing our aimlessly passing the ball backwards thing.  

18 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

Yep the long project not easy in the beginning stuff worries me too. We are already falling behind top 2.

While I don’t think ESFC are as strong as last year if they get much further ahead it will hard to pull back.  

Sorry to go modern football fan but I don’t have the patience for another crap season. With the squad we have, we should be challenging.

However the talk of changing things up is good. My hope is Gombau has us attacking with some purpose. The end of the Adelaide cup game was us doing our aimlessly passing the ball backwards thing.  

My expectations this year are a top 4 finish (I think 4th or 3rd is realistic) , could get lucky with a GF spot but SF again realistic in my opinion, people might say I am being defeatist, too negative and that we should be top 2 and winning things......perhaps but I just don't see that happening this season, if we won some silverware great, but I don't expect it.

It prob is going to take Gombau a while to stamp the system he wants on this side, just as Garry Monk has had a difficult time at the Boro for the first 4 months or so.

I am with Lloydy in that I am not totally convinced that Gombau is right for WSW, but I will happily come back to that and say I was wrong whenever that might be needed and I back him 100%, but I have my reservations.

I will be patient anyway, I have a couple of decent seasons amongst around 35 totally shyte disappointing seasons following the Boro, I am well set up for a long hard slog and expectations are influenced by that.

40 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

Sorry to go modern football fan but I don’t have the patience for another crap season.

If you don't what chance the facebook nongs putting up with "teething problems".

I'm happy that they are talking about the long term.  That doesn't mean they don't want success soon, it means they are thinking about the whole club.

2 hours ago, Prydzopolis said:

 

I am very confused regarding the clubs line of thinking in regards to our clubs direction. When you consider the first two options we were going for and how polar opposite the managers philosophy  to running man. It makes me dizzy too  

How do we even know what stage they got with the other two?  So far all I've seen is paper talk.

The prospect of death by tika-taka is the only legit concern I can see in this thread. The rest is all guesswork and hearsay.

17 hours ago, lloydy136 said:

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we will see what gombau does but i'm not interested in people talking about his 'passion' and 'enthusiasm' - you want that in your right back not your manager imo.

As a right back I substitute passion and enthusiasm to make up for a lack of skill, technique and tactics

Mrs Stringerbellend would argue that it isn’t the only activity I do that in  

1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

While I don’t think ESFC are as strong as last year if they get much further ahead it will hard to pull back.  

Sorry to go modern football fan but I don’t have the patience for another crap season. With the squad we have, we should be challenging.

However the talk of changing things up is good. My hope is Gombau has us attacking with some purpose. The end of the Adelaide cup game was us doing our aimlessly passing the ball backwards thing.  

100% agree with you on Easts, but another classic performance last night. Outplayed and balance of play in City's favour but scrapped a win, helped that referee allowed persistent cynical fouling to happen without consequence but thats easts for you.

100% on changing things, perhaps not in the complete opposite direction but I guess let us wait and see

On being patient? To be honest, I'll be the last person to go Gombau out but it's the wanderers family modern football fan that will cause the most issues.

33 minutes ago, btron3000 said:

I'm happy that they are talking about the long term.  That doesn't mean they don't want success soon, it means they are thinking about the whole club.

How do we even know what stage they got with the other two?  So far all I've seen is paper talk.

 

The prospect of death by tika-taka is the only legit concern I can see in this thread. The rest is all guesswork and hearsay.

How do we know how far they got with the other two? In such situations, often you need to dig beneath the surface. When Taurus reappears he will dish it out.

Death by tiki-taka? I don't think anyone is suggesting we are doomed, perhaps just lowering expectations and being a bit realistic about timelines on success or transformation. 

It’s a top 6 system with a grand final. Last year we were absolutely dreadful until mid Jan and still ended up only going out on pens.

my point is if the goal is the a league final there is time to mess around and still finish top 4, long as we peak then.

Enough time for Gombau to change things round and still make a push at the end. 

Nobody in League looks convincing yet. Smurfs are grinding out results, City are to a degree

Victory are in a bit of a state

Perth should be doing better..

6 minutes ago, Prydzopolis said:

Outplayed and balance of play in City's favour

SFC weren't outplayed. They had 60% possession, twice as many shots on goal as City, 150 more passes and 10% better passing accuracy. City just occasionally looked better & were coming on stronger at the end of the game, but couldn't put any real chances together.

With the FFA's protection of SFC the only ways they will lose the Premiership this season are:

1) They get smashed by a heavy injury run, dropping enough points that the ACL actually impacts their ability to secure the title because they don't just have to get a handful of points in the last few weeks to win it.

2) Redmayne goes ultra-Redmayne and starts gifting opposition teams goals every week, and Cisak doesn't do any better when he gets put in.

3) Gombau turns us into a team that will beat SFC in both of the derbies and go on a long winning run in the 2nd half of the season that secures our Premiership, unlike how we threw it away in 2015/16.

6 hours ago, Wanderer74 said:

https://www.playersvoice.com.au/josep-gombau-in-presence-of-cruyff/#CflGwDD5022AV0sZ.97

Josep has written this himself, so it will be much easier to understand

"Also, I learned a lot of things from Ange Postecoglou.

I learned how brave is Ange. There is the way he wants to play and he doesn’t change for anything. It doesn’t matter if we play against Chile or Germany, some of the best teams in the world, he is not scared."

ok I changed my mind, can we get the defensive German? hahahaha

1 hour ago, mack said:

 Redmayne goes ultra-Redmayne and starts gifting opposition teams goals every week, and Cisak doesn't do any better when he gets put in.

Nice interview after the game last night with Redders , who got the Fox 1 point, and who is much more confident and happier than he was with us - for reasons it's easy to fathom.

I'm happy to see him looking happy. Shame it's for SFC, I guess....but still.

36 minutes ago, wendybr said:

Nice interview after the game last night with Redders , who got the Fox 1 point, and who is much more confident and happier than he was with us - for reasons it's easy to fathom.

Because he hasn't cost SFC any games yet.

15 minutes ago, mack said:

Because he hasn't cost SFC any games yet.

C'mon Mack! Everyone deserves a break!  

He WAS one of ours - and it must have been pretty horrible.

Confidence shot to ribbons playing with the (then?) Heart....they were still booing him last night every time he got the ball. 

Then playing for the Wanderers wouldn't have done his confidence any good either.

He doesn't look like a rabbit caught in the headlights any more.

His confidence was shot to ribbons because he sucks. After Cisak has returned, the first time he makes an error (assuming SFC haven't been losing) he'll get dropped & sit on the bench until their ACL games.

30 minutes ago, mack said:

His confidence was shot to ribbons because he sucks. After Cisak has returned, the first time he makes an error (assuming SFC haven't been losing) he'll get dropped & sit on the bench until their ACL games.

You're a hard man Mack! 

Little wonder his confidence was shot when even a mistake by Thomas Sorensen early last year is commented on as 

"Sorensen channels his inner Redmayne" in the Comments section.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/video-thomas-sorensen-howler-costs-melbourne-city-a-goal-in-clash-with-western-sydney-wanderers/news-story/54f79e54a4d428bc7575f483b72f572b

So...if he is so ****, why did SFC sign him??

@ Wendy - he is a relatively cheap option. Sydney FC can spend more on strikers and midfielders under the salary cap ... and bribing the FFA

Redmayne can relax knowing that VAR will give them a chance to equalise 

29 minutes ago, wendybr said:

"Sorensen channels his inner Redmayne" in the Comments section.

Hah I never saw that. Thanks for the laugh.

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So...if he is so ****, why did SFC sign him??

They wanted to get rid of Janjetovic, and save cash in the Salary cap.

6 minutes ago, mack said:

Hah I never saw that. Thanks for the laugh.

Sounds like something you'd have said - often!   

24 minutes ago, pseudonym said:

@ Wendy - he is a relatively cheap option. Sydney FC can spend more on strikers and midfielders under the salary cap ... and bribing the FFA

Redmayne can relax knowing that VAR will give them a chance to equalise 

Hahahaha - yes well that all does make sense!   

31 minutes ago, wendybr said:

You're a hard man Mack! 

Little wonder his confidence was shot when even a mistake by Thomas Sorensen early last year is commented on as 

"Sorensen channels his inner Redmayne" in the Comments section.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/video-thomas-sorensen-howler-costs-melbourne-city-a-goal-in-clash-with-western-sydney-wanderers/news-story/54f79e54a4d428bc7575f483b72f572b

So...if he is so ****, why did SFC sign him??

They didn’t think Vukovic was going to leave, didn’t really matter who was sitting on the bench (long as they are cheap) 

I hope he does ok, I don’t get people booing him. Seems like a decent enough bloke 

6 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

They didn’t think Vukovic was going to leave, didn’t really matter who was sitting on the bench (long as they are cheap) 

I hope he does ok, I don’t get people booing him. Seems like a decent enough bloke 

He seems like a very decent bloke.  

As I said, it was a lovely interview.

Janjetovic and Reddy are both suspect keepers yet made Redmayne look like a Craigslist purchase. The unsteadiness, the maniacal decision making and soft let ins turned everyone against him.

If it looked like he was trying to make up for it with passion, like a similarly afflicted forward whose name started with D, people would suffer him. Instead it was just Redmayne being Redmayne

Plus keeper isn't exactly a position you can have much "passion" on display anyway. You just look goofy if you do that and still can't catch the ball properly.

I reckon Jon Crawley deserves to take a lot of credit as the goal keeping coach at ESFC. Better coach than Kalac

21 minutes ago, Jukes75 said:

I reckon Jon Crawley deserves to take a lot of credit as the goal keeping coach at ESFC. Better coach than Kalac

Redmayne said as much,  as I recall.... not making the comparison, but said he appreciated the guidance he was getting at SFC.

1 hour ago, wendybr said:

Redmayne said as much,  as I recall.... not making the comparison, but said he appreciated the guidance he was getting at SFC.

That must have been an interesting first session. "Now Andrew, you are NOT meant to palm the ball straight into the path of the opposition strike. Remember that."

For me the back four are the heart n soul of a football team.   And nothing succeeds until they do.  All this attacking style will go nowhere until we win the war at the back.  I don't think WSW is ready for (successful) attacking football.