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    RBB Silent Protest – Sunday 10th of March 2013

     

     

    During the Western Sydney Wanderers vs Wellington Phoenix A-League match this coming Sunday, the 10th of March 2013, the RBB will be conducting a peaceful silent protest for the first 20 minutes of the match. The reasons for this protest are that over the course of the season, 20 RBB members have received unjust and baseless bans by Hatamoto and Football Federation Australia. We stand by our banned brothers who have helped make the RBB what it is today.

     

    Our specific reasons include:

    * The harshness of the 5 year bans.

    * These bans are given with no supporting evidence.

    * Bans are being given for alleged and unproven participation in events far outside the scope of Football Federation Australia.

    * That the Hatamoto ban system lacks the Australian ideal of the 'fair go', with no fair trial, no evidence, no representation and no appeal available.

    * The refusal of Football Federation Australia and Hatamoto to provide evidence to those who are banned.

    * The refusal of Football Federation Australia to accept witness statements that refute Hatamoto's evidence.

    * The constant and overwhelming prescence of heavily armed police within and in front of active support bays.

    * Hatamoto gathering dossiers on "potential trouble makers", recording people without consent, to the extent of monitoring supporter movements by under-cover police, as well as illegally tapping the phones of RBB members.

    * Deliberately provoking RBB members who are busy keeping the Church Street march going in a safe and orderly fashion.

     

    The protest aims for the following outcomes:

    * Bans related to the Royal Exhibition Hotel scuffle and the W-League pitch 'invasion' to be revoked.

    * An appeal system or judiciary system to be put into place in a similar manner to an on-field judiciary, to promote a transparent and open process, with all evidence being presented openly and honestly to all parties involved, and allowing people to represent or be represented at these hearings, with a decision determined by a fair, neutral third party.

    * A system to be put into place for the FFA to educate and protect the rights of supporters against private security firms and the Police while attending FFA events.

     

    This decision was not made lightly. After spending much of the season attempting to contact FFA and resolve these bans, including speaking with A-League boss, Damien DeBohun at the Football Supporter Forum, the RBB has been stonewalled at every turn.

     

    This protest is not aimed at the players or coaching staff in any way. You know who we sing for, and will do as we always do every week at the conclusion of the protest.

     

    The RBB pays respect to the combined North Terrace of Melbourne Victory supporters and those in Adelaide, both having held similar protests as a result of similar mistreatment by Hatamoto, the FFA and their local Police and security.

     

    For those in the RBB and North End of Parramatta Stadium please follow the instructions of RBB Members and Capos as a unified response is required. Those not in the North Stand we also encourage you to participate.

     

    Shoulder to Shoulder.

     

    The full statement follows.


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    JamCal

    Posted

    Fair enough. I stand by what I said earlier - I support your intentions, but believe this won't achieve anything. If anything, more ppl will pay to watch this 20 min silence = more revenue = big fat pay cheque for DG. Hit the FFA where it hurts most - revenue. Don't attend games if you're serious about promoting this cause. Now THAT will hit the FFA hard. These are my 2 cents. I hope I'm wrong though.

     

     

    you know most of us are season ticket holders right? Not attending will cost the club nothing except piss money... And if we wanted to do that, everyone could just get smashed at the woolie before hand.

    Super

    Posted

     

    I will be vocal from the first minute. Whilst it's admirable what you are trying to do for YOUR mates, but I attend Wanderers games for the team. No one is bigger than the team. This is an extremely important game and I'm not willing to jeopardize our chances of maintaining top spot. All football fans and players know how hard it is to turn the momentum of a game particularly after a slow start. How do you think the players feel after they shake hands and start jogging towards a silent Active Support...

    Everything's been organised a specific way to work around what needs to be done.

     

    If you stand in any of the active support regions and even think of doing what you said, i'm telling you now, I will happily escort you the **** out of the terrace personally.

     

    You wont have to worry about messing up your hankerchief I sit in the eastern terrace.

    I respect what the RBB is trying to do, but not the means of how it is going about it.

    Peaches

    Posted

    To be honest I just can't see this achieving anything meaningful.

    This I do know- Beauchamp and the boys will be playing against a team who will want to beat them. The boys will be hoping for the same support they've had all year. In the clubs very short history, this will be the first time they have played as competition leaders and the first 20 minutes will be in silence. I just can't see anything being achieved.

     

    I would think a legal approach for those with the bans would be much more likely to succeed.

    VanDiesel

    Posted

     

    Fair enough. I stand by what I said earlier - I support your intentions, but believe this won't achieve anything. If anything, more ppl will pay to watch this 20 min silence = more revenue = big fat pay cheque for DG. Hit the FFA where it hurts most - revenue. Don't attend games if you're serious about promoting this cause. Now THAT will hit the FFA hard. These are my 2 cents. I hope I'm wrong though.

     

     

    you know most of us are season ticket holders right? Not attending will cost the club nothing except piss money... And if we wanted to do that, everyone could just get smashed at the woolie before hand.

     

    Fair enough, but a lot of people pay to see the WSW because of the atmosphere you guys create. You might question the loyalty of these fans, but that's the reality. 

    Legionista

    Posted

     

    I will be vocal from the first minute. Whilst it's admirable what you are trying to do for YOUR mates, but I attend Wanderers games for the team. No one is bigger than the team. This is an extremely important game and I'm not willing to jeopardize our chances of maintaining top spot. All football fans and players know how hard it is to turn the momentum of a game particularly after a slow start. How do you think the players feel after they shake hands and start jogging towards a silent Active Support...

    Everything's been organised a specific way to work around what needs to be done.

     

    If you stand in any of the active support regions and even think of doing what you said, i'm telling you now, I will happily escort you the **** out of the terrace personally.

     

     

    Go start dragging kids out, go.

     

    Breathe mate, breathe.

    Zurg

    Posted

     

     

     

    I will be vocal from the first minute. Whilst it's admirable what you are trying to do for YOUR mates, but I attend Wanderers games for the team. No one is bigger than the team. This is an extremely important game and I'm not willing to jeopardize our chances of maintaining top spot. All football fans and players know how hard it is to turn the momentum of a game particularly after a slow start. How do you think the players feel after they shake hands and start jogging towards a silent Active Support...

    Everything's been organised a specific way to work around what needs to be done.

     

    If you stand in any of the active support regions and even think of doing what you said, i'm telling you now, I will happily escort you the **** out of the terrace personally.

    You wont have to worry about messing up your hankerchief I sit in the eastern terrace.

    I respect what the RBB is trying to do, but not the means of how it is going about it.

    Uh oh

    JamCal

    Posted

     

     

    Fair enough. I stand by what I said earlier - I support your intentions, but believe this won't achieve anything. If anything, more ppl will pay to watch this 20 min silence = more revenue = big fat pay cheque for DG. Hit the FFA where it hurts most - revenue. Don't attend games if you're serious about promoting this cause. Now THAT will hit the FFA hard. These are my 2 cents. I hope I'm wrong though.

     

     

    you know most of us are season ticket holders right? Not attending will cost the club nothing except piss money... And if we wanted to do that, everyone could just get smashed at the woolie before hand.

     

    Fair enough, but a lot of people pay to see the WSW because of the atmosphere you guys create. You might question the loyalty of these fans, but that's the reality. 

     

     

    Don't recall questioning anyone's loyalty. 

    Pistola

    Posted

    Shoulder to Shoulder brothers

     

    Football is a celebration. If you don't agree with the RBB on this, that is fine. But remember that the following home game...when you sit and cheer in the RBB. Twenty boys who have been there since the very beginning are not there, and have no right to appeal bans. Why is the FFA, Parramatta Stadium and Hatamoto exempt from the laws we all have to adhere to as inhabitants of this great land. No proof, no explanation...NO NOTHING!

     

    They're not MY mates, I barely know any of the banned, they're my RBB brothers. Don't be a selfish child! Stand up for your fellow Wanderer.

    Mauly

    Posted

     

     

     

    I will be vocal from the first minute. Whilst it's admirable what you are trying to do for YOUR mates, but I attend Wanderers games for the team. No one is bigger than the team. This is an extremely important game and I'm not willing to jeopardize our chances of maintaining top spot. All football fans and players know how hard it is to turn the momentum of a game particularly after a slow start. How do you think the players feel after they shake hands and start jogging towards a silent Active Support...

    Everything's been organised a specific way to work around what needs to be done.

     

    If you stand in any of the active support regions and even think of doing what you said, i'm telling you now, I will happily escort you the **** out of the terrace personally.

    You wont have to worry about messing up your hankerchief I sit in the eastern terrace.

    I respect what the RBB is trying to do, but not the means of how it is going about it.

    Well if that's the case, please keep your self and your mentallity there. These are our brothers. We'd do it for the current and the future members of the RBB. If you had even the slightest of clues what injustices have unfolded since the birth of the terrace, you'd shut your mouth. We are not at will to give out all the details we have, but don't you ******* dare question the reasons behind it. It's not a spur of the moment '**** the pigs' type thing. Alot of time and effort has gone into this. Single minded ****s as yourself are what we don't need right now.

     

    Now excuse me for being harsh, but im **** im sick of **** like this.

    Benched

    Posted

    Can everyone chill out a bit. People are entitled to their opinion. This is targeted at those people standing in the Northern terrace. Not for one minute do we expect the entire stadium to be silent.

    Neverbloom

    Posted

    Shoulder to Shoulder brothers

     

    Football is a celebration. If you don't agree with the RBB on this, that is fine. But remember that the following home game...when you sit and cheer in the RBB. Twenty boys who have been there since the very beginning are not there, and have no right to appeal bans. Why is the FFA, Parramatta Stadium and Hatamoto exempt from the laws we all have to adhere to as inhabitants of this great land. No proof, no explanation...NO NOTHING!

     

    They're not MY mates, I barely know any of the banned, they're my RBB brothers. Don't be a selfish child! Stand up for your fellow Wanderer.

    this also try to think about if you were one of those banned and you had people not wanting to protest

    POUMista

    Posted

    To be honest I just can't see this achieving anything meaningful.

    This I do know- Beauchamp and the boys will be playing against a team who will want to beat them. The boys will be hoping for the same support they've had all year. In the clubs very short history, this will be the first time they have played as competition leaders and the first 20 minutes will be in silence. I just can't see anything being achieved.

     

    I would think a legal approach for those with the bans would be much more likely to succeed.

    Do you not pay attention?  A key part of the problem is that the "legal option" vis a vis bans has been effectively circumvented, and barely exists. 

    Zurg

    Posted

    This threads going to turn into a **** storm.

    POUMista

    Posted

    Can everyone chill out a bit. People are entitled to their opinion. This is targeted at those people standing in the Northern terrace. Not for one minute do we expect the entire stadium to be silent.

    Agreed.

     

    It would be appreciated if that support were shown, but those outside of the north end need not feel they are being coerced into anything.

     

    Nonetheless, a bit of solidarity *would* be appreciated. ;)

    Gavo

    Posted

    Shoulder to Shoulder brothers

     

    Football is a celebration. If you don't agree with the RBB on this, that is fine. But remember that the following home game...when you sit and cheer in the RBB. Twenty boys who have been there since the very beginning are not there, and have no right to appeal bans. Why is the FFA, Parramatta Stadium and Hatamoto exempt from the laws we all have to adhere to as inhabitants of this great land. No proof, no explanation...NO NOTHING!

     

    They're not MY mates, I barely know any of the banned, they're my RBB brothers. Don't be a selfish child! Stand up for your fellow Wanderer.

     

    100%

    ATP

    Posted

     

     

    Shoulder to Shoulder brothers

     

    Football is a celebration. If you don't agree with the RBB on this, that is fine. But remember that the following home game...when you sit and cheer in the RBB. Twenty boys who have been there since the very beginning are not there, and have no right to appeal bans. Why is the FFA, Parramatta Stadium and Hatamoto exempt from the laws we all have to adhere to as inhabitants of this great land. No proof, no explanation...NO NOTHING!

     

    They're not MY mates, I barely know any of the banned, they're my RBB brothers. Don't be a selfish child! Stand up for your fellow Wanderer.

    this also try to think about if you were one of those banned and you had people not wanting to protest

    Spot on GOAT.

    RobDog

    Posted

    Have those members that have been banned and that have been refused an appeal contacted the Australian Sports Ombudsmen? This is where you need to go to when you need to review or overturn bans from national sporting bodies. This does cater for off-field decisions such as spectator bans. See http://www.ausport.gov.au/site_tools/contact_us/web_forms/complaint for more information.

    Casper

    Posted

    Interesting fact is that Wanderers haven't had a goal scored against them within the first 15mins of a game all season... If they keep that form I'm sure they will be fine against Wellington for the first 20

    VanDiesel

    Posted

    Interesting fact is that Wanderers haven't had a goal scored against them within the first 15mins of a game all season... If they keep that form I'm sure they will be fine against Wellington for the first 20

     

    Is that home and away games?

    Llama

    Posted

    Interesting fact is that Wanderers haven't had a goal scored against them within the first 15mins of a game all season... If they keep that form I'm sure they will be fine against Wellington for the first 20

     

    the wisdom of a cop is always appreciated here.....

     

    said no1 ever.

    VanDiesel

    Posted

    Have those members that have been banned and that have been refused an appeal contacted the Australian Sports Ombudsmen? This is where you need to go to when you need to review or overturn bans from national sporting bodies. This does cater for off-field decisions such as spectator bans. See http://www.ausport.g...forms/complaint for more information.

     

    This. And also maybe get the backing of the ANZSLA - always good to have the support of a body of lawyers. Who knows, there might be a lawyer from ANZSLA willing to take this case on pro-bono

    ATP

    Posted

    Freedom of speech MACK, stop deleting my posts!!!

     

    If i have an opinion of a poster am i not able to voice my opinion? However generalised it may be???

     

     

    I await your reply you asshole

    Mauly

    Posted

     

     

    Interesting fact is that Wanderers haven't had a goal scored against them within the first 15mins of a game all season... If they keep that form I'm sure they will be fine against Wellington for the first 20

    the wisdom of a cop is always appreciated here.....

     

    said no1 ever.

    + 1 x everything ive ever known

    Guest

    Posted

    Not my area of expertise, not one of my strong points at all, but if the decision by the FFA to ban spectators can be interpreted as "administrative in character", then these decisions may be reviewable under the ADJR Act where a party can seek certiorari and mandamus as a judicial remedy.

     

    Boban you're in practice, what do you think?

    Zurg

    Posted

     

     

     

     

    Interesting fact is that Wanderers haven't had a goal scored against them within the first 15mins of a game all season... If they keep that form I'm sure they will be fine against Wellington for the first 20

    the wisdom of a cop is always appreciated here.....

     

    said no1 ever.

    + 1 x everything ive ever known

    You're killing me tonight Llama

    Legionista

    Posted

    Freedom of speech MACK, stop deleting my posts!!!

     

    If i have an opinion of a poster am i not able to voice my opinion? However generalised it may be???

     

     

    I await your reply you asshole

     

    Don't worry I saw it. I don't understand why you are so mad though...

    JamCal

    Posted

    I may as well say now that i was totally ******* kidding with the harlem shake thing..... I thought my .... would have explained but if not..... ...............

    ATP

    Posted (edited)

    Legionosta - A whopping SIX posts from you sir, im impressed...

     

    I made my point clear...

     

    Happy to talk to you at the woolpack sunday in person about it, just ask anyone for ATP...

     

    You do know where the woolpack is right? The wanderers pub?

     

    Il explain to you in person my reasoning..

    Edited by ATP
    VanDiesel

    Posted

    Come to think of it, there are avenues for appeal in place... 




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