Important Message To RBB & All WSW Supporters

It was hard to put into words just how serious this is guys & girls. We were lucky to have come out of the meeting with an opportunity to restore our gameday privileges!

 

Now is not the time to piss and moan or go into "omg protest" mode.

 

Shoulder to shoulder!!!

I'll still be singing my heart out, if you didn't see it coming then something's wrong.

If we stand shoulder to shoulder we will come out stronger

Firstly thanks to the Benched, Dukes, Kop and John for again stepping up and talking to the people that need to be talked to on our behalf. Must take a massive amount of patience at times.

Secondly, I don't mind the idea behind the wrist bands, maybe something else like a card. Everyone in the home end with fluoro (Not that they would be) wrists bands may look a little... night clubish. We really need a way to make sure that people in the active bays are people that are contributing and are responsible. We don't want cops in Riot gear doing that for us, do we?

I am not fussed where I stand and sing as long as the people that are taking places in the central area's are doing their bit.

I have been all over the bays and haven't felt any less part of it.

Just on the matter of perceived core RBB etc, I started going to the Woolie without knowing anyone. Introduced myself, was there for meetings where as a stranger I was welcomed to put an opinion forward, when asked to hold TIFO's: I did, when marshalls where needed: I volunteered, when asked to miss the march to secure Bay56: I did, every game I sing for roughly 110mins (pre-game & post-game), I have no idea who the so called core members are nor do I care. I know who the same people are every week, how hard they work and how much we all love the wanderers. Some people are running their mouths here with little to no real understanding of what we are doing here, celebrating football & Western Sydney.

Whatever it takes is what we will do. If your worried about not getting a wristband then your here for the wrong reasons. I'll gladly sit wherever I can and sing and celebrate from bay 55 to bay 21. It's irrelevant.

Essentially what I'm trying to say is that we are all "core RBB". Be a capo, encourage and educate those around you. Volunteer, say hello. You be the image you want the RBB to be. Your not morons, know your place and the universe will take care of the rest.

The FFA have gone over the top and will kill the colour and atmosphere at the games. There are other solutions to this matter and this is not one of them. They need to sit with all heads of the respective supporter groups at one meeting and find a proper solution to it. And in regards to flares each supporter group should be allowed 2 or 3 ppl in there designated groups who are only allowed to light them up and it's stated on there season ticket....

I sit in bay 55 and I'll always sing loud and proud no matter what..a setback but being from the west we've always made the most out of what we've got, and this is no different..if you do see someone messing up, speak up and I'm pretty sure the majority of other fans around you will back you up..Who do we SING FOR?!!

I must say it's really encouraging to see the sentiment from most.

I have a feeling that the RBB will be the loudest it's ever been come Australia Day.

The FFA have gone over the top and will kill the colour and atmosphere at the games. There are other solutions to this matter and this is not one of them. They need to sit with all heads of the respective supporter groups at one meeting and find a proper solution to it. And in regards to flares each supporter group should be allowed 2 or 3 ppl in there designated groups who are only allowed to light them up and it's stated on there season ticket....

I think the "supporter groups" have done quite enough thanks....if not for the behaviour of some fans we wouldn't be in this situation.  I find it odd that people want to dictate to the FFA on how they should do stuff, when some basic concepts of acceptable behaviour seem to evade them. 

Why blame the FFA for reacting to a situation which the fans created?

By the way I am not saying that your idea isn't worth considering, but do you think that the FFA will accept that risk given the lack of compliance thus far?  We are not in a strong negotiating position.

[edited to fix typos and clarify my comment]

While the punishment maybe harsh, I think this also serves to stop a problem becoming too big to control in the near future and an opportunity to stand together and show how strong we as supporters of WSW are. I think the RBB and the club could come out of this better if the response by us is the right one. We aren't gonna lose numbers and numbers of supporters in 1 or 2 games because theres no drums etc and if we do stuff them they're not worth it. But we are gonna lose a lot more if the wrong things keep happening.

At first reading the OP might anger some to say **** this they're killing us why bother. But **** throwing in the towel, like it has been said stand shoulder to shoulder and even if it means no drums, tifos etc we make the best atmosphere possible with what we got. At the end of the day yes we got punished but there has been a lot harsher punishments like playing behind closed doors etc etc. We will get massive respect by our own fans, other club supporters and our very own club if we become stronger and better because of this and come up with a massive positive response. Time to show we will not be stopped and will only continue to grow stronger. So make sure starting from oz day drums or no drums we as individuals and as a group ensure we encourage everyone to get involved start singing and showing the right behaviour. 

Just on the matter of perceived core RBB etc, I started going to the Woolie without knowing anyone. Introduced myself, was there for meetings where as a stranger I was welcomed to put an opinion forward, when asked to hold TIFO's: I did, when marshalls where needed: I volunteered, when asked to miss the march to secure Bay56: I did, every game I sing for roughly 110mins (pre-game & post-game), I have no idea who the so called core members are nor do I care. I know who the same people are every week, how hard they work and how much we all love the wanderers. Some people are running their mouths here with little to no real understanding of what we are doing here, celebrating football & Western Sydney.

 

Whatever it takes is what we will do. If your worried about not getting a wristband then your here for the wrong reasons. I'll gladly sit wherever I can and sing and celebrate from bay 55 to bay 21. It's irrelevant.

 

Essentially what I'm trying to say is that we are all "core RBB". Be a capo, encourage and educate those around you. Volunteer, say hello. You be the image you want the RBB to be. Your not morons, know your place and the universe will take care of the rest.

I do offer this out , I am from Parramatta, Penrith and Windsor Area's, I now live in Tassie, I brought my foundation membership before game 1 ,I fly up for games, not all im not rich, I am seated smack in the middle of Bay 56, I am active in social media and try to fly up for games when I can, including games in Melb, I hope the sentiment isnt that I wouldnt beeld for the RBB and my club, I love this club, I'd hate that because someone doesnt recognise me I wouldnt be welcome to take my place in my Bay 56. because as a limitation I cant attend all games, I will be there on Australia day and its a matter of time till I move back permanantley to the heartland of football, I assure each and everyone of you when we rock up to the Woolie with our tenth year memberships, ill be there with all of them from year 1 to 10 and beyond... I am #RBB I am a Wanderer... #shouldertoshoulder

 

to add im not worried about not getting a wristband, what worries me are people that dont consider me RBB because im not recognisable, and being rejected and not allowed access to my seat for that reason...

I also share this concern i havent been in bay 56 for a while now i have just as much fun in the other bays I just dont

want rbb to turn into another cove where you have only a selected group of people within the circle who think they are

above the rest. I'm also tired of the terms "real rbb" or "core rbb" anyone who sits in those bays are RBB.

THIS X 1000000000000

Can't say I am surprised by the FFA's reaction. We have been like a kid who has pushed and pushed just to see what they can get away with. Now we have pushed to far. This is the time we stick together, sing for 90 mins and remind everyone what attracted them to the RBB in the first place. It wasn't drums, flags, tifos, banners, flares, smokies or any of that stuff. It was standing with your mates (be they old ones or someone you just met), singing your heart out for your team regardless of what is happening on the pitch and going home with a sore throat and thinking **** I can't wait for next game. Now is the time to unite and show everyone that "Shoulder 2 Shoulder" is more than just some words, that it means something.

And to all the RBB scarf holders out there (Of which I am one, so this includes me as well) now is the time that we all stand up and work harder than ever to lead the RBB in the right direction. Time to remember that it's a privilege, not a right to own a scarf and with owning a scarf comes a certain measure or responsibility.

SHOULDER 2 SHOULDER

There's no problem having the wristbands, so long as it's done appropriately and fairly.

People who are at the wool pack and march are the people who make up the core in my opinion. Without these, others would not be following the lead and contributing their passion.

The wristbands in my opinion should be given out here and only for bay 56, which should be our main focus for this season. Steady growth.

If we do implement wristbands, instead of worrying about getting one for 56 why not view it as an opportunity to make 55 and 57 just as passionate. I have a membership for 56 and I think I've stood there maybe once. Does it bother me? No. Why? Because wherever I am I know I'll be passionate for my team regardless.A few of us regularly stand at the front of 57 and urge those around us to sing and chant for 90 minutes. So I have no problem missing out on 56 as long as a) I get to sing for the whole match and b) help contribute to the atmosphere at the ground with my mates.

As for the tifos, drums, flares; yes they help, but lets not forget what really makes our active support close to the best in the country. That's the unrivalled passion and determination of the rbb to sing for beyond the 90. I'm sure Australia Day will be no exception!

And to the members who met with the club/FFA my heartfelt thanks, I'm sure everyone here is grateful for your effort!

It's interesting that the FFA "We are Football" ad talks about things being taken away and slowly getting everything back!

The same principle applies! RBB will sing and chant anyway! and slowly get it back! 

I think it's important to have a group of RBB representatives conversing with the club and the FFA. Dialogue is the right way to do this if we are to be taken seriously. Well done lads for taking part in these discussions. I myself am one of the drummers at the matches and I look forward to having the honour and pleasure of playing at the games again in due course. C'mon u wanderers!!

Getting pretty pumped up from ESFC fans getting their jollies from this either from tweeter and their forums... can't wait till OZ day and sing ******* loud!

Here's a quote "...Western Sydney Wanderers fans being recognised for the animals that they are. No respect for anyone else gets them into this situation..." Doesn't that make your blood boil...

COME ON YOU WANDERERS!

If the RBB start "self policing" that will be the shortest idea !! Lets show the smurfs we can do better

This is what I have observed from games that I've attended:

Round) opponent-

1) CCM-   No flares, moshing or amplified swearing

3) SYD-    No flares, a little moshing, plenty swearing

5) MHT-   A flare when the two goals were scored, which were put out within seconds, only a small remnant of the smoke was visibily floating away, hardly noticeable

6) NEW-  Flare after a goal scored, was handed to security and within about three seconds put out. The footage I had of it on my phone wasn't worth keeping, that's how much of an event it was

8) MVC -  No flares, plenty of moshing and little swearing

10) BRI -   No flares, plenty moshing, no amplified swearing

11) SFC-   Away game. What can I say other than the script was written well before the season started. Plenty of footage available. Resulting from this match The Cove lost the right to have overhead tifos (not that I care about ESFC but I care about consequences of actions when it comes to active support for any team of the game I love and want to prosper in this country).

12) ADE-  No flares, a bit of moshing, no amplified swearing, yet it was the best atmosphere we have had this season

14) MVC-  From where I was sitting I don't recall flares and I'm sure there was moshing, but swearing was not noticeable.

15) CCM-  Bottles thrown (and I saw a thong), flare thrown and we stole a Rugby League chant about referees (shame on me I was chanting it as well).

W-League. No moshing, very little swearing, but a shitload of flares

From my observations I believe that this is a pre-emptive strike before things actually do start to escalate with people just starting to push it. Media hyperbole has not helped but we knew this was going to happen from the beginning. Although the media lies and negative coverage have only contributed to free advertising for us, the way the public is socialised by the media in the long run will not work for us if we start giving them ammunition, even if it is exaggerated.

Basically if we look back to most of our matches, there were hardly any flares, a fair amount of moshing, and a moderate amount of amplified swearing. What I'm saying is that the awesome atmosphere available at games has been acheived without the need to start pushing it to the limit when it comes to the club's definition of anti-social behaviour. Just look at the Adelaide game. I'd be happy to replicate that atmosphere in any match and I assume that was equal to the best behaved that any active support could possibly be. I won't deny that I like flares; they are an amplifier; both good and bad. The moshing and swearing would hardly be an issue if not for the flares, but I can live without them. And no matter what we think about them there will always be a stigma attached that will not go away in our lifetime.

Really this is happeneing at a perfect time. We've had a high, it's time for a low and to show that we won't crumble. I have no doubt that we can prove next week that Wanderers matches have an awesome atmosphere no matter what. And while there's talk from outsiders of us finally getting what we deserve and that this is the beginning of the end, I think that they will be very disappointed when we come out stronger. But I have noticed the true football fans from our rivals, although thye hate us, are really with us in our cause for football in this country and I respect them for that.

If we do implement wristbands, instead of worrying about getting one for 56 why not view it as an opportunity to make 55 and 57 just as passionate. I have a membership for 56 and I think I've stood there maybe once. Does it bother me? No. Why? Because wherever I am I know I'll be passionate for my team regardless.A few of us regularly stand at the front of 57 and urge those around us to sing and chant for 90 minutes. So I have no problem missing out on 56 as long as a) I get to sing for the whole match and b) help contribute to the atmosphere at the ground with my mates.

 

As for the tifos, drums, flares; yes they help, but lets not forget what really makes our active support close to the best in the country. That's the unrivalled passion and determination of the rbb to sing for beyond the 90. I'm sure Australia Day will be no exception!

 

And to the members who met with the club/FFA my heartfelt thanks, I'm sure everyone here is grateful for your effort!

Exactly, the focus should be on making the whole north/home end part of the RBB and getting the whole area as active as possible. Sure leave 56 for the main guys, drums etc but people shouldn't cry because they can't sit in bay 56. Make it better by leading by example in the other bays and getting everyone involved. Do you think people from the best active supporter groups around the world give a crap where they seat or stand?

Personally I'm not a fan of the wrist bands to identify the "core" RBB guys so if anything happens we know it's from blow ins or randoms and to be able to get the privilege to sit in bay 56. But if it works in terms of organisation to avoid problems with drummers, equipment and stuff and ensure the right people and right things go in the right place then yea go for it. 

 

 

But the members of the RBB aren't children and the club can't push too hard before the fans start to walk away. Look at the situation in Adelaide where the fans have copped it. Now, despite their good league position, their attendances are down from previous years.

 

Also, its fairly clear that most of the trouble being made is not from the 'core RBB' guys who wave the flags and create the tifos etc. If they were, the trouble would've been fixed as soon as it became an issue. All in all, I think its hard not to be disappointed with the approach the club/FFA has taken.

 

The members of the RBB aren't children...correct. But clearly there is an issue. 

 

Flares, flares under tifos, flares (25?) being ripped on a total fire ban day while half the state is burning, flares being thrown in the general direction of children who are volunteering to be ball kids for our team, p*ssing in bottles and throwing them on the field too (only to have them picked up by the same children). 

 

And this is the fault of the FFA and the club??? 

 

No, this is why the FFA and club have had to respond in this way. 

 

The RBB now have to show they are not children by responding well to this set back and continuing to create the atmosphere that our club and players and supporters love.  Earn back the privileges.  I know the RBB can do it.  Heck most of the ppl here can see that and want to do that.

 

I posted very early in the pre season about the implications of the poor behaviour of the fans - and some scoffed at the comments.  And it seems some ppl still think that the RBB is the reason so many fans want to go to the games.  Partly you are correct.  The RBB can create an amazing atmosphere that is unequalled in the sporting arena in Sydney, and that will draw ppl to the game.  But at the same time the RBB can push ppl away.  Did you not hear the heckling from the fans in the stands and terraces when the bottles and flare came onto the field during the CCM game?  That was the general public saying that they don't want that kind of behaviour.  And if people don't get that, then keep up the behaviour, watch ppl stop comng to games and see where the club ends up then.  2000 fans at games?  Is that what you want?  This club needs more than just the RBB and hangers on

 

RBB, now is the time to stand up and show that you can be mature about this. (and I believe the steps shown today are in the right direction).  But understand that unless you are unified and work together and stay within the boundaries together you will have issues.  You can see even in this thread most of the RBB want to do the right thing - but some do not want to.  They want to blame others for the nactions for which they need to take responsibility for. 

 

To the guys who attended the meetings, top work - a tough job well done.

 

The first post is not what I wanted to read after coming home on a Friday.

 

I have read through the thread and was considering a "I told you so" style of post, but Capt Grumpy has said everything I could hope to express.  A part of me is happy that some will finally realise that there are consequences for their actions and a larger part of me is extremely peeved that it takes this for some people to wake up.

 

One of the other things I have been banging on about is the possibility of "perceived elitism" within the RBB.  (Remember I wrote "perceived').  We must at all costs ensure that no-one is made to feel like an outsider.  No one person or clique is bigger or more important than the whole.  That would be my only concern about the wristbands.  

 

If you want an example of a good home end, then you only need look at the discipline shown by the supporters in that Lech Poznan video.  Will we never get to that point until we are all on the same page as to what is acceptable and what is not.  Discipline is not a matter of looking to be the "hard 'unt" or the people that stands out the most.

 

To the guys giving up their time, it is very much appreciated.

I'll try to reply to both of you guys as best as possible. Firstly, i just want to make it clear that I'm not a member of the RBB. But i am a foundation member sitting in the eastern stand and I'm just looking at this as someone who appreciates the work they do, but won't actually be affected by any of this. Every time I know of someone going to a match for the first time, the biggest thing that gets them hooked is the RBB. They represent the club more then any other group or person.

I know there are issues and I'm not debating that. But the problem is that most of these issues are being created by outsiders or the hangers on. I think the biggest thing was the bottle incident at the CCM game which was attended by some very important people. Now if the RBB is being punished for that, how is it fair when going through these forums will show that the exact people who are being punished are the ones who never wanted the incident to occur  in the first place. The FFA should  be careful about pushing too hard because the reaction might cause long term damage to be done. I guess it probably all depends on how much flexibility and goodwill the FFA show in the following weeks. If there are no incidents and everything is basically returned with stricter warnings about flares, moshing and bottle throwing, I think everyone will be happy with that and appreciate the other side.

But yeah, I just don't want the wrong people being punished. Regardless, I'll still be supporting the wanderers, hopefully at the woolpack this week and then back at wanderland for the next home game.

Personally I'm not a fan of the wrist bands to identify the "core" RBB guys so if anything happens we know it's from blow ins or randoms and to be able to get the privilege to sit in bay 56. But if it works in terms of organisation to avoid problems with drummers, equipment and stuff and ensure the right people and right things go in the right place then yea go for it. 

Maybe someone can tell me where do we get blow ins or randoms for a W-league match? Anyone?

Bueller..................Bueller...................................................Bueller.

Who cares where we sit. Bay 56 or 55 or 58 together the whole northern terrace we sing united. We use our hands to clap and we use our voices to chant as loud and mighty as we can. This is just a hurdle we learn and move on to overcome and prepare ourselves better for the next challenge. Were from western sydney they can't kick us down, lets use our brains and unite against anti social behaviour including promoting flares,smoke bombs. As much as we love or hate flares we know their illegal so lets play smart.

Maybe someone can tell me where do we get blow ins or randoms for a W-league match? Anyone?

 

Bueller..................Bueller...................................................Bueller.

A mighty fine question.....

I think Victory fans are a bit more sympathetic because they've been through something similar. They can't claim they've been harshly treated then criticise us for doing the same things they did.

Who cares where we sit. Bay 56 or 55 or 58 together the whole northern terrace we sing united. We use our hands to clap and we use our voices to chant as loud and mighty as we can. This is just a hurdle we learn and move on to overcome and prepare ourselves better for the next challenge. Were from western sydney they can't kick us down, lets use our brains and unite against anti social behaviour including promoting flares,smoke bombs. As much as we love or hate flares we know their illegal so lets play smart.

I think people are missing the point and have taken the whole Bay 56 thing too far out of context.... some of the people are posting a division between fans ....  a core RBB or recognisable faces, my point is some people cant make every game and it doesn't  make them less RBB than others.... or does it?

I think Victory fans are a bit more sympathetic because they've been through something similar. They can't claim they've been harshly treated then criticise us for doing the same things they did.

I dont think so dude, i wouldn't wish this upon the smurfs I would never want to see another group go through bans like this, its just East sydney are ©unts

we were more then happy to sign that petition for the red army even though we had not experienced anything like it.

And in the end, really who gives a ****. You're supposed to be there to sing for the team. Not for anything else. Lets just everyone get on with doing that.

 

 

 

But the members of the RBB aren't children and the club can't push too hard before the fans start to walk away. Look at the situation in Adelaide where the fans have copped it. Now, despite their good league position, their attendances are down from previous years.

 

Also, its fairly clear that most of the trouble being made is not from the 'core RBB' guys who wave the flags and create the tifos etc. If they were, the trouble would've been fixed as soon as it became an issue. All in all, I think its hard not to be disappointed with the approach the club/FFA has taken.

 

The members of the RBB aren't children...correct. But clearly there is an issue. 

 

Flares, flares under tifos, flares (25?) being ripped on a total fire ban day while half the state is burning, flares being thrown in the general direction of children who are volunteering to be ball kids for our team, p*ssing in bottles and throwing them on the field too (only to have them picked up by the same children). 

 

And this is the fault of the FFA and the club??? 

 

No, this is why the FFA and club have had to respond in this way. 

 

The RBB now have to show they are not children by responding well to this set back and continuing to create the atmosphere that our club and players and supporters love.  Earn back the privileges.  I know the RBB can do it.  Heck most of the ppl here can see that and want to do that.

 

I posted very early in the pre season about the implications of the poor behaviour of the fans - and some scoffed at the comments.  And it seems some ppl still think that the RBB is the reason so many fans want to go to the games.  Partly you are correct.  The RBB can create an amazing atmosphere that is unequalled in the sporting arena in Sydney, and that will draw ppl to the game.  But at the same time the RBB can push ppl away.  Did you not hear the heckling from the fans in the stands and terraces when the bottles and flare came onto the field during the CCM game?  That was the general public saying that they don't want that kind of behaviour.  And if people don't get that, then keep up the behaviour, watch ppl stop comng to games and see where the club ends up then.  2000 fans at games?  Is that what you want?  This club needs more than just the RBB and hangers on

 

RBB, now is the time to stand up and show that you can be mature about this. (and I believe the steps shown today are in the right direction).  But understand that unless you are unified and work together and stay within the boundaries together you will have issues.  You can see even in this thread most of the RBB want to do the right thing - but some do not want to.  They want to blame others for the nactions for which they need to take responsibility for. 

 

To the guys who attended the meetings, top work - a tough job well done.

 

The first post is not what I wanted to read after coming home on a Friday.

 

I have read through the thread and was considering a "I told you so" style of post, but Capt Grumpy has said everything I could hope to express.  A part of me is happy that some will finally realise that there are consequences for their actions and a larger part of me is extremely peeved that it takes this for some people to wake up.

 

One of the other things I have been banging on about is the possibility of "perceived elitism" within the RBB.  (Remember I wrote "perceived').  We must at all costs ensure that no-one is made to feel like an outsider.  No one person or clique is bigger or more important than the whole.  That would be my only concern about the wristbands.  

 

If you want an example of a good home end, then you only need look at the discipline shown by the supporters in that Lech Poznan video.  Will we never get to that point until we are all on the same page as to what is acceptable and what is not.  Discipline is not a matter of looking to be the "hard 'unt" or the people that stands out the most.

 

To the guys giving up their time, it is very much appreciated.

 

I'll try to reply to both of you guys as best as possible. Firstly, i just want to make it clear that I'm not a member of the RBB. But i am a foundation member sitting in the eastern stand and I'm just looking at this as someone who appreciates the work they do, but won't actually be affected by any of this. Every time I know of someone going to a match for the first time, the biggest thing that gets them hooked is the RBB. They represent the club more then any other group or person.

 

I know there are issues and I'm not debating that. But the problem is that most of these issues are being created by outsiders or the hangers on. I think the biggest thing was the bottle incident at the CCM game which was attended by some very important people. Now if the RBB is being punished for that, how is it fair when going through these forums will show that the exact people who are being punished are the ones who never wanted the incident to occur  in the first place. The FFA should  be careful about pushing too hard because the reaction might cause long term damage to be done. I guess it probably all depends on how much flexibility and goodwill the FFA show in the following weeks. If there are no incidents and everything is basically returned with stricter warnings about flares, moshing and bottle throwing, I think everyone will be happy with that and appreciate the other side.

 

But yeah, I just don't want the wrong people being punished. Regardless, I'll still be supporting the wanderers, hopefully at the woolpack this week and then back at wanderland for the next home game.

Whilst the mantra has consistently been; "it is the randoms, outsiders, non core RBB" the fact is, to most onlookers, it is the RBB.  Also, having been involved on these forums for some time, I have a fair idea of those that support the ripping of flares and those that give it lip service.  Many would fall into that "core RBB".  If the regulars on here are honest, they will acknowledge that.  I will not be naming anyone as that is just my perception.

Core or not, they fall within the group and it is the group who will be punished unless the individuals step up (that is out from within their group of mates where they hide after they rip the flare) and take responsibility for their own actions.  And pigs might fly!

As far as I am concerned, only the loss of the drums will affect what the RBB does best- that is,make beautiful noise.

 

Maybe someone can tell me where do we get blow ins or randoms for a W-league match? Anyone?

Bueller..................Bueller...................................................Bueller.

 

A mighty fine question.....

... most likely not to be answered.

 

The FFA have gone over the top and will kill the colour and atmosphere at the games. There are other solutions to this matter and this is not one of them. They need to sit with all heads of the respective supporter groups at one meeting and find a proper solution to it. And in regards to flares each supporter group should be allowed 2 or 3 ppl in there designated groups who are only allowed to light them up and it's stated on there season ticket....

 

Some clubs in the MLS do that, certain people are allowed to light them on their Capo's stands. Wish it would happen here would just stop a lot of the BS supporters go through.

Agreed and i don't even sit in the northern end but western grandstand in bay 6 and i see no problem with a bit of colour and passion which has been happing up to date and neither do the ppl who site in bay 6/7 and 8 either....

Maybe someone can tell me where do we get blow ins or randoms for a W-league match? Anyone?

Bueller..................Bueller...................................................Bueller.

 

A mighty fine question.....

 

... most likely not to be answered.

Let me answer this in the most diplomatic way I can and I hope no one takes it to heart. But have a good reflection because your actions are affecting a lot of the positive things that the club and supporters are trying to do.

................There were no blow ins or randoms. Lets move on.