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    Important Message To RBB & All WSW Supporters

     

    Myself (Benched), BigDukes, RBBKopite and JohnG met with the Club and FFA on Wednesday afternoon. We were asked to attend due to incidents that have taken place this year, such as the away derby (where several flares were thrown onto the pitch), CCM match (bottle incident) and the recent W-League match (flares and a pitch invasion).

     

    We had a very open and frank discussion which lasted several hours. As of the conclusion of the meeting we have lost everything:

    • Tifos.
    • Oversized flags.
    • Megaphones,
    • Instruments.

    These are privileges that we are allowed and we have now lost those privileges. It is up to us to earn back our privileges starting now. Our response and behaviour from this moment must be strong & unified.

     

    It is only due to the continued efforts at building an open relationship with the club that we have any chance at all to reverse the situation.

     

    The club is no longer able to decide whether or not we have our match day equipment. The club and the FFA can still have an influence on the police and stadium on our behalf. The ball is very much in our court now and the club & FFA have told us precisely what WE ALL need to do.

     

    No anti-social behaviour is the overarching message here. Anti-social behaviour includes:

    • Flares. They won’t be tolerated. It has been well and truly communicated to us that it is an absolute zero tolerance policy from here on in. Let’s face it guys, we’ve had a lot of flares and have got away with blue murder to date.
    • Moshing on the terrace. The stadium will not tolerate the damage it causes and we should be mindful of the potential for injury not only to those involved but those around it, our fellow fans.
    • Swearing through the megaphones or in chants is also considered as anti-social behaviour.
    • Sneaky tifo’s such as confetti displays, receipt rolls, streamers etc. Everything must be above board & pre registered, assuming we are even allowed to do another tifo this season.

    I ask you all to consider your actions on match day and understand that what we thought to be a heavy police presence in the past is nothing compared to what it will be now. The RBB is and always will be bigger than any one individual. Don’t be selfish and ruin it for the entire home end. Too much hard work has been put in by many, many, many people:

    • Capo's expel so much energy to ensure we become THE BEST active supporters in the country.
    • We have people spending many hours co-ordinating and producing our tifo’s, flags, banners, confetti etc.
    • We have a great group of musicians who give us the atmosphere that makes us want to party for the full 90 minutes and show our pride and passion for our team.
    • We have a very dedicated group of people behind the scenes co-ordinating marches, the club dialogue, match day activities, handling countless media requests and all manner of things which most of you would not know about.
    • Lastly, but definitely not least, we have everyone who turns up on match day and gives their all in the support of our club.

    I urge you all to take this very seriously.

     

    The club and FFA both understand that our home end has grown more rapidly than any of us ever expected or hoped it would. They also understand that with rapid growth comes the challenge of managing a group that has grown from 40 guys & girls singing on a hill at Cook park into 2500 people (mostly) singing in the North Terrace at Parra stadium. We spoke about this at length, particularly regarding the frustration felt by a lot of RBB members at arriving from the march to see the active support bays filled with people who refuse to participate, sponges that absorb the atmosphere we create rather than join in making it even better.

     

    Our ONLY chance at earning the ability to make a tifo for the next home derby is to prove that we can manage Bay 56, to show that we have a strong core of 340 RBB who understand what we are trying to achieve and will not screw it up for everyone else through selfish actions. A suggestion was made for us to obtain wristbands, and the concept works in two ways:

    1. We ensure that bay 56 is rock solid every week. Anyone without a wristband will NOT be allowed into the bay, and we have a promise from the club that security will enforce this on our behalf.
    2. If someone does misbehave, they won't be in bay 56 and won't be wearing a wristband which means the club, FFA and police will know that the person is not part of our core group and thus outside of our realm of responsibility.

    We make no apologies for the length of this post or for the seriousness of the contents.

     

    The RBB was founded as a democratic group and we urge everyone who stands & sings in the home end to exercise your democratic right of reply and have your voice heard.

     

    Admin: Some modifications were made by me (Mack), to improve readability and formatting to promote this post to the frontpage. The message itself was not changed.


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    IronWanderer

    Posted

    Shoulder to Shoulder means "solidarity". 

     

    if the majority agree with the 'line' and agree with not throwing flairs and not being violent and a small few don't they are not Shoulder to Shoulder they are "cowboys" who are not standing together.

     

    "United we stand, divided we fall"

    1988banana

    Posted

     

    How could you snitch somebody in n be proud of it , that's the biggest dog act , who ever wants to snitch , go n join the cove you'll fit right in , they snitch each other in ever week n then have a beer together n talk about who snitch who in , fuking dogs , so I better not found a rat here

     Mate I will tell you why. Because those who are causing trouble  are ruining it for everyone. They are doing the wrong thing, and because you say nothing (not you personally!), we condone it and it leads to this.Those doing the wrong thing are hurting the club. I am sure you will agree with this. So by us saying nothing we also hurt  the club, and punish the good people and all their hard work.  Surely you can see how not dobbing in the trouble makers has led to the entire group been punished? You would rather see the whole group be punished then some idiot trouble makers? 

    End of the day if you get caught doin some dumb sh;t n the police catch u , ur on your own , you know the rules , there will be no snitching...

    westofcentre

    Posted (edited)

     

     

    How could you snitch somebody in n be proud of it , that's the biggest dog act , who ever wants to snitch , go n join the cove you'll fit right in , they snitch each other in ever week n then have a beer together n talk about who snitch who in , fuking dogs , so I better not found a rat here

     Mate I will tell you why. Because those who are causing trouble  are ruining it for everyone. They are doing the wrong thing, and because you say nothing (not you personally!), we condone it and it leads to this.Those doing the wrong thing are hurting the club. I am sure you will agree with this. So by us saying nothing we also hurt  the club, and punish the good people and all their hard work.  Surely you can see how not dobbing in the trouble makers has led to the entire group been punished? You would rather see the whole group be punished then some idiot trouble makers? 

    End of the day if you get caught doin some dumb sh;t n the police catch u , ur on your own , you know the rules , there will be no snitching...

     

     

    Sorry mate, I dont want to sound like a smart ass, just make people aware that we are hurting ourselves, and we know how police and security will react. 

     

    Shoulder to Shoulder is about mutual respect. You need to earn respect. Throwing a flare does not earn respect. Hurting the club does not earn respect. If we do the right thing by the club then you have 10,000 odd fans backing you up. 

     

    Shoulder to shoulder is about benefiting the club, not hurting it and punishing the fans. 

    Edited by westofcentre
    1988banana

    Posted

    Shoulder to Shoulder means "solidarity".  if the majority agree with the 'line' and agree with not throwing flairs and not being violent and a small few don't they are not Shoulder to Shoulder they are "cowboys" who are not standing together. "United we stand, divided we fall"

    What's this violence thing you ***** are talkin about , remind me where there was a fight in the stadium

    Balkanite

    Posted

    to much arguing this weekend.

     

    /end thread

    1988banana

    Posted

     

     

     

    How could you snitch somebody in n be proud of it , that's the biggest dog act , who ever wants to snitch , go n join the cove you'll fit right in , they snitch each other in ever week n then have a beer together n talk about who snitch who in , fuking dogs , so I better not found a rat here

     Mate I will tell you why. Because those who are causing trouble  are ruining it for everyone. They are doing the wrong thing, and because you say nothing (not you personally!), we condone it and it leads to this.Those doing the wrong thing are hurting the club. I am sure you will agree with this. So by us saying nothing we also hurt  the club, and punish the good people and all their hard work.  Surely you can see how not dobbing in the trouble makers has led to the entire group been punished? You would rather see the whole group be punished then some idiot trouble makers? 
    End of the day if you get caught doin some dumb sh;t n the police catch u , ur on your own , you know the rules , there will be no snitching...
    So its shoulder to shoulder until you get caught then your on your own? Sorry mate, I dont want to sound like a smart ass, just make people aware that we are hurting ourselves, and we know how police and security will react.  Shoulder to Shoulder is about mutual respect. You need to earn respect. Throwing a flare does not earn respect. Hurting the club does not earn respect. If we do the right thing by the club then you have 10,000 odd fans backing you up.  Shoulder to shoulder is about benefiting the club, not hurting it and punishing the fans. 

    Once again where did I say it's ok to throw flares

    Balkanite

    Posted

    to much arguing this weekend.

     

    /end thread

    IronWanderer

    Posted

     

    Shoulder to Shoulder means "solidarity".  if the majority agree with the 'line' and agree with not throwing flairs and not being violent and a small few don't they are not Shoulder to Shoulder they are "cowboys" who are not standing together. "United we stand, divided we fall"

    What's this violence thing you ***** are talkin about , remind me where there was a fight in the stadium

     

    That is in reference to the 'line' that is seems the FFA and the general football community seems to have: Reference my first post regarding the line.

    SDIAKRBB

    Posted

     

    to much arguing this weekend.

     

    /end thread

     

    /end thread

     
    thats endthreadception
    1988banana

    Posted

    Yeh end the thread my blood pressure is goin through the roof.....

    SDIAKRBB

    Posted

    1988banana, u r 1 cheeky cnut m8

     

    you gave me a good laugh today  :meep:

    Balkanite

    Posted

    Ok not enough mods on to clean this crap up ... we need mods!

    mack

    Posted

    Oh yay, another 10 minutes spend going through and cleaning the thread.

    westofcentre

    Posted

    the definition of insanity is to do the same thing and expect change.

     

    Knowing security and police, if the same mentality of not weeding out trouble makers continues, then we will have many games faced with restrictions, and bans. Atmosphere will suffer and many fans will not turn up (rightly or wrongly) and the club suffers. 

     

    Something needs to change. My last post on the subject!

    Jukes01

    Posted

    I think we needed this discussion to air a lot things that have been going on last few home games.

     

    People just need to realise that there is a lot of effort going on behind the scenes to make our home end the best it came be.

    The fact that it has grown so much and so quick is testament to the great work the RBB have done to create that atmosphere

    as everyone wants to be apart of it. But being part of the RBB also carries some responsibilities and they arent difficult ones.

     

    1.When your in the RBB you sing for 90 minutes and you go hard.

    2.Dont light flares or throw bottles because as much as I love flares, the consequences of ripping one are too great.

    3.You should be marching pre game and not taking a seat.

    4. Show courtesy and common sense

    5. Its General Admission unless you want to revert to a wristband or allocated seating.

    6.You sit in RBB...........you are RBB. End of discussion on this point.

    Llama

    Posted

    Westofcentre, sorry to sound harsh, but F. U. CK off if you wanna snitch on someone.

     

    And go through my post history, I'm someone who's been against flares from the very beginning

    mack

    Posted

    I cbf cleaning up this ****. This has been warned several times, no-one is listening. Locked.

    Balkanite

    Posted

    I think we needed this discussion to air a lot things that have been going on last few home games.

     

    People just need to realise that there is a lot of effort going on behind the scenes to make our home end the best it came be.

    The fact that it has grown so much and so quick is testament to the great work the RBB have done to create that atmosphere

    as everyone wants to be apart of it. But being part of the RBB also carries some responsibilities and they arent difficult ones.

     

    1.When your in the RBB you sing for 90 minutes and you go hard.

    2.Dont light flares or throw bottles because as much as I love flares, the consequences of ripping one are too great.

    3.You should be marching pre game and not taking a seat.

    4. Show courtesy and common sense

    5. Its General Admission unless you want to revert to a wristband or allocated seating.

    6.You sit in RBB...........you are RBB. End of discussion on this point.

     

     

    +20, couldn't have said it better

    captcorbo

    Posted

    Well said Joe! Jukes01. I have said all I can, one post, thats all it takes. Lets hope 'alls well that ends well' for everyones sake and for the sake of the club guys.

    snafesta

    Posted

    Sad but inevitable.

    As someone new to the passion and pride the RBB show, I hope everyone pulls together and the atmosphere is as vibrant as ever come the 26th. Losing these privileges is a real shame, but I think it's a great sign of leadership by the RBB to attend the meeting and then get the message out to all WSW fans. Now its time for the greater crowd of supporters to stand shoulder to shoulder, sing as one for 90 minutes (even without the drums and megaphones) and show that they can take away the privileges, but never the passion. See you at the North Terrace on the 26th.

     

    WHO DO WE SING FOR?




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