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  • FFA Introducing Members-Only Restrictions On Active Support?


    mack

    Football Federation Australia are planning to introduce members only restrictions for all active support areas across the entire A-League for the 2014/15 season.

     

    According to sources close to the FFA and several A-League clubs, the FFA has been lobbied by the leadership of both Melbourne Victory & the Western Sydney Wanderers, to restrict every club in the A-League to membership only ticketing for all active support areas. The measure would mean that no match day tickets would be available to anyone for active support areas in any match this season.

     

    "This season we will continue to show the nation and the world that the Hyundai A-League has the best atmosphere in Australian sport as we aim to empower more fans to get involved with the competition." FFA Marketing for Season 2013/14.

     

    Football Federation Australia responded positively to the alleged lobbying from the two flagship clubs, and are set to slam through these restrictions in time for the start of the A-League in 120 days.

     

    Every CEO of the league & every membership manager is believed to be aware of the changes, with the FFA attempting to enforce a code of silence to ensure that these anti-supporter measures are not given any public airing before they are released. Sources indicate the majority of the other clubs in the league, and perhaps every one of them, have objected to the measures for a variety of reasons. They have been ignored.

     

    Despite being the nominal head of the A-League, Damien de Bohun is said to have not been involved in the specifics of the plan. Instead, FFA General Manager Sam Chadwick is believed to be the main face for the FFA in the planning of the restrictions and handing down the FFA's edicts to the other clubs.

     

    "Ultimately, we want to show people that the unique energy of the Hyundai A-League atmosphere powers the game, we want to show fans ‘You power the game’." FFA Marketing for Season 2013/14.

     

    If implemented, these restrictions will kill any chance of natural growth of A-League active support, a stance which flies in the face of the FFA's marketing that supporters that "power the game". No-one will be able to bring new supporters to games to stand alongside them in active support.

     

    These restrictions will have to be maintained by Police & Security, blockading active support areas and interrogating anyone who dares come near the entrances to those bays. This will create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation, this time across the entire A-League, even at clubs like Wellington & the Central Coast.

     

    The FFA & Melbourne Victory are well known for their attempts to silence active support, Victory have been caught running scared from biased media & police in Melbourne for years, and now it appears the Wanderers have joined them in their fight to kill active support or turn it into AFL style "cheer squads".

     

    I also find it extremely disappointing that the Wanderers are said to have been one of the two clubs pushing for these restrictions. Parramatta Stadium is likely to have an upgraded North Terrace at some point in the future, and allowing supporters to move from the expanded top tier into the RBB will help the atmosphere at our matches grow.

     

    For a club which new CEO Paul Lederer said "As Chairman I will always be listening and learning from the community of Western Sydney", this is the exact opposite to what I believe those who support the Western Sydney Wanderers would want to see from their leadership.

     

    This is a disgrace for both clubs if they truly have pushed for these restrictions. It is yet another failure by the FFA to understand and work with active support. The FFA only seem to care about active support when it could make them more money, and only when they can totally control everything that active support does. They failed to control Terrace Australis and then worked to destroy it, and they cannot control the active supporters in the A-League. The FFA has shown their hand in the recently released A-League draw, with the Wanderers having 6 matches against the two sides from Melbourne, with only one on Saturday, the best day for away supporters.

     

    I urge the FFA, the Wanderers & Victory to come to their senses and stop this moronic attempt at restricting the most passionate fans sport in Australia has. The other major codes are envious of the active support that gives the A-League an edge that they do not have. You would be stupid to try and destroy that. Again.


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    Prydzopolis

    Posted

    Pathetic but you got some good sources Mack!! Well said, but who will listen?!?

     

    Sad to hear our new hierarchy is pushing for this even though our new chairman is apparently listening to us..... I can understand last year it was forced upon us and there wasn't much we could do but this year we are initiating it, yet all other aleague clubs object to them....

     

    They want to grow the game, try and make inroads into other sports yet this only stifles what differentiates our sport to others in this country. I know it's all being said before but frustrating....

     

    So when is the next fan forum again?

    Pup55

    Posted (edited)

    Do you think it's a case of the FFA saying to WSW and MV, "this is happening again in 2014/2015 whether you like it or not", and our clubs saying, well if you are going to do that at our matches, it has to be an across the A-League rule?

    I'd hate to think, and be extremely surprised if it was WSW and MV who were requesting that this happen!

    Edited by Pup55
    wanderersfanatic

    Posted (edited)

    Makes no sense as to why Victory and WSW leadership are pushing for this.

     

    In my opinion, Active support is the foundation and what makes both of these clubs successful on and off the pitch.

     

    I say they're getting a lot of pressure from their sponsors to vouch for restrictions.

     

    It makes sense that other clubs disapprove. They know active support is what brings unique atmosphere to the game, as well as drawing more crowds.

     

    This will be the beginning of a chain reaction that the league will not grow. the other clubs will suffer even more.

    Edited by wanderersfanatic
    Zelinsky

    Posted

    I feel a collective no show coming on. Once the NT has been extended it would make sense to stay at the Roxy for a match and check out how good the renovations look on TV without people obstructing the view.

    Sime11

    Posted

    Do you think it's a case of the FFA saying to WSW and MV, "this is happening again in 2014/2015 whether you like it or not", and our clubs saying, well if you are going to do that at our matches, it has to be an across the A-League rule?

     

    I'd hate to think, and be extremely surprised if it was WSW and MV who were requesting that this happen!

     

    I think this is exactly what has happened but typically taken out of context. WSW & MVC would only request this restriction if the other 8 clubs got away without having to enforce the restriction.

     

    they really have NFI do they, if they work with the fans, it wont be long until football becomes #1 sport in Australia.

    Michael

    Posted

    This move doesn't seem that bad really. It won't squash support and fans coming to game. Casual supporters can still come to watch games and if the RBB appeals to them then get a membership. If anything, this will encourage active supporters to come to more games. All I'm interested in is implementing a good buy-back scheme, preferably online - that's the real thing limiting growth of our club.

    pys

    Posted

    Well no one has bought memberships yet ? How they think they should benefit from more sales of more memberships on the basis it gives members access to an exciting atmosphere when they didnothing tocreate it? They are allowed to charge us to watch the game they are not allowed to tax us further on the atmosphere we created. Its not their asset to do so.

    Burztur

    Posted

    Agree with Pup. Think its MV and WSW dragging everyone down with them given the FFA's plans.

    braad

    Posted (edited)

    Well its not confirmed our club has actually done so, but like mack and everyone else its extremely disappointing if true.

     

    As a usual side stand supporter seeing the active support struggle would kill the game. It is so completely backward in approach and really exposes the lack of understanding the FFA has.

     

    I really do hope, to shove their (FFA) noses in it, that wanderlands active support starts reaching into the side stands. They couldnt stop it then. What a sweet world that would be!

     

    Edit: after reading replies like pups, i can definitely see that as a possibility and maybe so much blame shouldnt be fired at the club yet.

    Edited by braad
    pys

    Posted (edited)

    Well its not confirmed our club has actually done so, but like mack and everyone else its extremely disappointing if true.

    As a usual side stand supporter seeing the active support struggle would kill the game. It is so completely backward in approach and really exposes the lack of understanding the FFA has.

    I really do hope, to shove their noses in it, that wanderlands active support starts reaching into the side stands. They couldnt stop it then. What a sweet world that would be!

    true but what about the away crowds we should be able totake our families on a weekend to melbourne and have them sit with usin the crowd with out having to buy memberships for them when they dont want to come e ery game.

    how are families supposed to travel?

    I think we should demand anwers before they release memberships.

    Edited by pys
    Sime11

    Posted

    it could be SFC influencing the FFA trying to force these restrictions on WSW & MVC.

     

    SFC has always been shown up by WSW/MVC with active support & crowds etc, yet SFC still claim they are the A-league's biggest club.

     

    SFC getting into bed with FFA to try & screw over WSW/MVC, that has SFC written all over it :P

     

    #coveconspiracytheory

    mack

    Posted

    My source said every club in the league that wasn't WSW & MV objected to these alleged changes.

     

    The club has seen the article, and I hope they will clarify their position soon.

    West13

    Posted

    Is this Lyall's parting gift or the start of Lederer's legacy?

    ******* furious.

    Having read more, less furious but confused.

    Zelinsky

    Posted

    FFA to be in charge of road traffic, I say. Considering how they deal with antisocial behaviour in football, they would be just the kind of people who are needed to tackle road safety. Mind you, the roads might be very empty very quickly, but the statistics for road accidents sure would look stellar.

     

    Should this restriction on active support materialize then I propose FFA being banned for five years. They are bringing the game into disrepute by making up stories about antisocial behaviour in football. I also propose that WSW members then collectively boycott any games of the Socceroos in Sydney.

    Smoggy

    Posted

    Is this Lyall's parting gift or the start of Lederer's legacy?

    ******* furious.

     

    Lyall probably filed it under 'too hard' and left this steaming pile of shite for Lederer to pick up.

     

    Very worrying developments though.

    PhoenixK

    Posted

    Re-freaking-diculous!

    Guest Southy

    Posted (edited)

    I can confirm that I've heard this for Sydney FC, its a lot different for the cove because our home end is essentially 4k which we all know we might scrap 2k in good games derby its different. this is a worrying thing for us and I've been wondering how they would police such a move ? they'd need to have ushers at every entrance to the cove, then have security on the side of the cove. 

    Edited by Southy
    leslie

    Posted

    ..just curious how this would work at some where like the mariners where there active support is in the middle of every one else - its basically 20 people sitting in a particular spot. Where would active support begin and end and how would that be policed.

     

    my point is, i can see how they could do this at parra like they did this year, but how can you apply it to all teams.

    Stevo99

    Posted

    I can confirm that I've heard this for Sydney FC, its a lot different for the cove because our home end is essentially 4k which we all know we might scrap 2k in good games derby its different. this is a worrying thing for us and I've been wondering how they would police such a move ? they'd need to have ushers at every entrance to the cove, then have security on the side of the cove. 

     

    That's a good point, if I recall correctly pretty much the whole bottom level of the stadium is open to walk around?  Well at least it was the few times I went to an SFC game pre-WSW, we would just buy the cheap tickets and walk around to better seats.  I don't know how they'd enforce members only without tarping it off, which would be even more of a disgrace.

    matty

    Posted

    FFA to be in charge of road traffic, I say. Considering how they deal with antisocial behaviour in football, they would be just the kind of people who are needed to tackle road safety. Mind you, the roads might be very empty very quickly, but the statistics for road accidents sure would look stellar.

     

    Great analogy.

    wanderersfanatic

    Posted (edited)

    Why on earth is football run by complete idiots!?!?

     

    FIFA...  FFA...

    Edited by wanderersfanatic
    Zelinsky

    Posted

    I thought that, once the schedule is released, I'd be making travel arrangements for interstate away trips. Instead I am not doing anything because I don't think that I am going anywhere interstate this season. And now, with these developments about active support restrictions out in the open, it looks like I won't be taking any non-member family or friends with me ever again into the active area.

     

    I have to say that FFA really knows how to take the fun out of the game. If they could actually feel how ****ed they are, they'd be screaming in pain and agony.

    Tranquilo

    Posted

    so will this apply when we travel to away games like last season? only active members will be allowed in active away bays?

    The roxy/woolpack all of a sudden is looking like the next best venue without all the restrictions!

    This is gonna kill all the clubs that don't have much of an active members section. Time for clubs to have the whole stadium rocking, time for all of Wanderland to become an active cauldron.

    Burgerman

    Posted

    Good work FFA you power the game but your not allowed in unless your a stonecutter member. Punishing other clubs is just stupid, I can see the hicks at Brisbane, adelaide and perth not bother going to games if told you can't sit in a certain section.




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