Wanderers Drop From Top 6

2 hours ago, Edinburgh said:

@andypk if you are still thinking of going? 

Not sure.  Will decide at the last minute but doubtful after todays performance.

59 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

He can't trap or pass a ball, that's nothing to do with the ACL injury. 

Without trying to be an immensly massive knob, and I say this to someone who's opinion I respect a lot on here, thats absolutely not true. Theres a large pile studies on the impact of player performance post ACL injuries. I'm happy to have discussion about it thats evidence based, though the post game may not be the best place. We are here solely to bemoan our current standings aren't we? 

That all said, I dont think Tate has any real future with his current output. He's been back at it for a season and is only showing decline

5 hours ago, Upthehill said:

Without trying to be an immensly massive knob, and I say this to someone who's opinion I respect a lot on here, thats absolutely not true. Theres a large pile studies on the impact of player performance post ACL injuries. I'm happy to have discussion about it thats evidence based, though the post game may not be the best place. We are here solely to bemoan our current standings aren't we? 

That all said, I dont think Tate has any real future with his current output. He's been back at it for a season and is only showing decline

You are right I am being way too harsh, other than the specifics of ACL a best part of a year our of footy at that age is tragic and it's clearly set him back.

That's said pre ACL I'd moan about him losing the ball. Simmons is far better with the ball.

We actually do have some great young players. The positive to take from yesterday all the NPL kids did well when they got on. Barrie looks like a really good player.

11 hours ago, Upthehill said:

I was on a plane. Do I bother with the highlights? Sounds like the full thing was a bit of a bust.

The highlights would paint a better picture than the actual gameplay. We had some moments and that was it.
It’s like the stats on the post match show, I was astounded that we had (iirc) more passes, more corners, more attempts, and possibly slightly more possession. I guess all that does is prove how ******* **** we are when you watch the actual gameplay 

11 hours ago, Upthehill said:

Whilst Milanovic has had some ugly patches, that kids is a footballer.

Priestman, Sapsford, Badolato and Simmons will all get there. And dont forget how good tate was in long stretches before his ACL injury. Our current crop of kids is obliterating the NPL, they will come good. And guys like Hendrix could be a base for a long term stable squad. Also getting rid of Antonsson and getting Borello back to being a lone striker like last season will be a huge step forward.

I strongly believe our issue right now is our ownership. Lederer has basically gotten every decision wrong since taking over club (someone for the love of god prove me wrong because I can't think of one). I dont think the answer is burning half the squad and starting again

This. 

A fan of Milanovic....but think he'll be of OS soon.

The youth are not the problem it's non performing visa and seniors.

Going to be an interesting end of season isn't it. Who goes who stays.

17 minutes ago, sonar said:

This. 

A fan of Milanovic....but think he'll be of OS soon.

The youth are not the problem it's non performing visa and seniors.

Going to be an interesting end of season isn't it. Who goes who stays.

Very telling that in a game we needed to win the attacking visa players were taken off 

The fact that Thomas had no keeper saves and City had 2 shots on target says it all.

Young with 7 saves against WSW 8 shots on target.

I asked the question at the game....did Thomas even have to make a save?

We conceded to a deflection and the parting of the red sea with a terrible defence display.

Having said that, we were rubbish and Perias is Sotirio V2 with his frustration. Gets into amazing positions but instead of his first touch knocking the ball forward to lose his marker with pace. He traps it and starts from a standing start where all advantage is gone.

Victory away. Our record speaks for itself. And apparently we haven't won a home game since Jan or something.

1 minute ago, Erebus said:

The fact that Thomas had no keeper saves and City had 2 shots on target says it all.

Young with 7 saves against WSW 8 shots on target.

I asked the question at the game....did Thomas even have to make a save?

We conceded to a deflection and the parting of the red sea with a terrible defence display.

 

Having said that, we were rubbish and Perias is Sotirio V2 with his frustration. Gets into amazing positions but instead of his first touch knocking the ball forward to lose his marker with pace. He traps it and starts from a standing start where all advantage is gone.

 

Victory away. Our record speaks for itself. And apparently we haven't won a home game since Jan or something.

Yep city weren't great, we were worse for 75mins anyway then decide to have a go.

As for.Pereiras that early in the first half used his pace great run got to the edge of the box then his touch was so bad he ended up taking it out for a goal kick 

I hate to sound like a bitter arse-hole, but that whole fanfare around Ninković's last home game does not sit well with me. 

He is an A-League legend of our biggest rival. 

Nice bloke, great ambassador for the game... but does he deserve the attention he is receiving from thr club?

Here is a list of some more deserving club legends that were shown the door, with zero fanfare...

Ante Čović, Brendan Santalab, NTS, Mateo Poljak, La Rocca, Michael Beauchamp etc...

Ninko has scored more goals for Sydney FC than appearances for WSW. 

Zero A-League goals for us. 

Sure, he has set up a few goals with his silkly skills, but when it came to the biggest game in the semi final last season, he shat the bed along with the rest of them. 

Spent more time off the field than on it this season. 

I vividly remember his first interview after signing for the club... "I come here to win".

Signing a 39 year old from FC was always a risk... eventually it freed up a VISA spot for us, and that is about all the positives. 

When he was fit enough to be on the bench, he just took the place of a more deserving youth player, like Younis, who would've benefited from the experience, rather than just sitting in the stands. 

Recruitment, again the major reason we'll miss finals footy this season. 

30 minutes ago, SNS100 said:

I hate to sound like a bitter arse-hole, but that whole fanfare around Ninković's last home game does not sit well with me. 

He is an A-League legend of our biggest rival. 

Nice bloke, great ambassador for the game... but does he deserve the attention he is receiving from thr club?

Here is a list of some more deserving club legends that were shown the door, with zero fanfare...

Ante Čović, Brendan Santalab, NTS, Mateo Poljak, La Rocca, Michael Beauchamp etc...

Ninko has scored more goals for Sydney FC than appearances for WSW. 

Zero A-League goals for us. 

Sure, he has set up a few goals with his silkly skills, but when it came to the biggest game in the semi final last season, he shat the bed along with the rest of them. 

Spent more time off the field than on it this season. 

I vividly remember his first interview after signing for the club... "I come here to win".

Signing a 39 year old from FC was always a risk... eventually it freed up a VISA spot for us, and that is about all the positives. 

When he was fit enough to be on the bench, he just took the place of a more deserving youth player, like Younis, who would've benefited from the experience, rather than just sitting in the stands. 

Recruitment, again the major reason we'll miss finals footy this season. 

He did give us some real moments of skill last year that were worth the ticket price 

Id rather watch players with true skill than some of other players fail to do the basics 

But yep, it was all a bit of a waste of time for us. Last year he added value, but this year was always going to be a year too far but of course we didn't plan for that

I liked that the club did something to respect a real legend of A League. Yes it should have been done previously to some of the local club legends! The club did a decent thing, here and it should continue.

As for the game. I'm not really agreeing with the majority of you. Yes, absolutely disappointing to lose and the season has turned to dust. Considering City absolutely destroyed us a few weeks ago and then destroyed Perth last week, I was looking for a response. I never thought we'd win and I never thought we'd get close. We did.

They dominated us for a fair bit of the first half, as they do.  No kids in their side and 5 decent/good imports all on the field. They are probably the best team - on paper - but haven't really clicked much of the time. McLaren continues to struggle.

Simmons, except for one moment, did really well against Natel. Arslan was kept under control and Marcelo really controlled the backline for most of the game. Perias is quick but no vision. Did some good things and wasted much. Antonsson looks really down on confidence and has to go. Rudan right to hook him. Brilliante (not a favourite on here!) was very strong and did take us forward a lot of the time (despite other forumite comments). We tried to go round and play through/over their much stronger midfield and it worked a lot of the time but we don't have a solid finisher.

The second half was much more of us and Younis a large part of that. Sapsford, Blair, Younis, Priestman, Simmons, Bonetig, Barrie and Scicluna are worth keeping. But that shows the difference - 11 experienced players v young blokes learning and a few experienced players.

Kittel shows there's a player in there but not enough of the player showed up for us. Ninkovic is 2 metres shower than he used to be but was one of the few on the park who controls and keeps the ball. I hope we can keep him as a coach. The stories we heard from people around us about what he does with kids and families to encourage and help were brilliant.

So a disappointing result, with some really promising performances. We don't look like a team that is gelling and knows each other's game. That, for me, along with some poor ball control from players that should be much better, is a major problem. The reality is we were just beaten by a much better team (at least with experience and on paper) and we aren't improving. The 'tactics' we seem to employ are limited and have been shown up in the second half of the season. That is on the coaching staff. I'll say no more as there is enough said elsewhere in the forum.

That's way more positive than I could be 

We were shockingly bad until the 70th minute brainless football and that was from our experienced players 

Lawrence Thomas must be the most creative player in the A League as we seemed intent on getting the ball to him as often as possible 

#rudanout

4 hours ago, BoyFromTheWest said:

I liked that the club did something to respect a real legend of A League. Yes it should have been done previously to some of the local club legends! The club did a decent thing, here and it should continue.

As for the game. I'm not really agreeing with the majority of you. Yes, absolutely disappointing to lose and the season has turned to dust. Considering City absolutely destroyed us a few weeks ago and then destroyed Perth last week, I was looking for a response. I never thought we'd win and I never thought we'd get close. We did.

They dominated us for a fair bit of the first half, as they do.  No kids in their side and 5 decent/good imports all on the field. They are probably the best team - on paper - but haven't really clicked much of the time. McLaren continues to struggle.

Simmons, except for one moment, did really well against Natel. Arslan was kept under control and Marcelo really controlled the backline for most of the game. Perias is quick but no vision. Did some good things and wasted much. Antonsson looks really down on confidence and has to go. Rudan right to hook him. Brilliante (not a favourite on here!) was very strong and did take us forward a lot of the time (despite other forumite comments). We tried to go round and play through/over their much stronger midfield and it worked a lot of the time but we don't have a solid finisher.

The second half was much more of us and Younis a large part of that. Sapsford, Blair, Younis, Priestman, Simmons, Bonetig, Barrie and Scicluna are worth keeping. But that shows the difference - 11 experienced players v young blokes learning and a few experienced players.

Kittel shows there's a player in there but not enough of the player showed up for us. Ninkovic is 2 metres shower than he used to be but was one of the few on the park who controls and keeps the ball. I hope we can keep him as a coach. The stories we heard from people around us about what he does with kids and families to encourage and help were brilliant.

So a disappointing result, with some really promising performances. We don't look like a team that is gelling and knows each other's game. That, for me, along with some poor ball control from players that should be much better, is a major problem. The reality is we were just beaten by a much better team (at least with experience and on paper) and we aren't improving. The 'tactics' we seem to employ are limited and have been shown up in the second half of the season. That is on the coaching staff. I'll say no more as there is enough said elsewhere in the forum.

16 hours ago, BoyFromTheWest said:

I liked that the club did something to respect a real legend of A League. Yes it should have been done previously to some of the local club legends! The club did a decent thing, here and it should continue.

As for the game. I'm not really agreeing with the majority of you. Yes, absolutely disappointing to lose and the season has turned to dust. Considering City absolutely destroyed us a few weeks ago and then destroyed Perth last week, I was looking for a response. I never thought we'd win and I never thought we'd get close. We did.

They dominated us for a fair bit of the first half, as they do.  No kids in their side and 5 decent/good imports all on the field. They are probably the best team - on paper - but haven't really clicked much of the time. McLaren continues to struggle.

Simmons, except for one moment, did really well against Natel. Arslan was kept under control and Marcelo really controlled the backline for most of the game. Perias is quick but no vision. Did some good things and wasted much. Antonsson looks really down on confidence and has to go. Rudan right to hook him. Brilliante (not a favourite on here!) was very strong and did take us forward a lot of the time (despite other forumite comments). We tried to go round and play through/over their much stronger midfield and it worked a lot of the time but we don't have a solid finisher.

The second half was much more of us and Younis a large part of that. Sapsford, Blair, Younis, Priestman, Simmons, Bonetig, Barrie and Scicluna are worth keeping. But that shows the difference - 11 experienced players v young blokes learning and a few experienced players.

Kittel shows there's a player in there but not enough of the player showed up for us. Ninkovic is 2 metres shower than he used to be but was one of the few on the park who controls and keeps the ball. I hope we can keep him as a coach. The stories we heard from people around us about what he does with kids and families to encourage and help were brilliant.

So a disappointing result, with some really promising performances. We don't look like a team that is gelling and knows each other's game. That, for me, along with some poor ball control from players that should be much better, is a major problem. The reality is we were just beaten by a much better team (at least with experience and on paper) and we aren't improving. The 'tactics' we seem to employ are limited and have been shown up in the second half of the season. That is on the coaching staff. I'll say no more as there is enough said elsewhere in the forum.

Agree with all of that except Briliante. I thought he was very poor. Gave the ball away far too much. 

21 hours ago, Erebus said:

The fact that Thomas had no keeper saves and City had 2 shots on target says it all.

Young with 7 saves against WSW 8 shots on target.

I asked the question at the game....did Thomas even have to make a save?

We conceded to a deflection and the parting of the red sea with a terrible defence display.

 

Having said that, we were rubbish and Perias is Sotirio V2 with his frustration. Gets into amazing positions but instead of his first touch knocking the ball forward to lose his marker with pace. He traps it and starts from a standing start where all advantage is gone.

 

Victory away. Our record speaks for itself. And apparently we haven't won a home game since Jan or something.

Lawrence did have to rush out late on to intercept a through ball (and promptly gave it to Antonis lol)

It was a meh performance.

Only positive is Younis scoring his first goal.

Other than that... Listen here ****FACE out!

4 minutes ago, SBW said:

It was a meh performance.

Only positive is Younis scoring his first goal.

Other than that... Listen here ****FACE out!

Meh is too positive it was total shite 

1 hour ago, braad said:

Lawrence did have to rush out late on to intercept a through ball (and promptly gave it to Antonis lol)

He did see plenty of ball as we managed to pass it back to him from every throw in and free kick for a reason only Rude Boy would know