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    The Western Sydney Wanderers threw away a win against Wellington after Dimas Delgado missed a penalty that should have won the game for the Wanderers.

    Tony Popovic elected to make several changes from last week, in particular putting Jerrad Tyson back in goal after his red card suspension, and introducing Jaushua Sotirio & Kearyn Baccus into the starting lineup.

    The opening 15 minutes did not match the rest of the season, as the Wanderers were dominated and barely had a touch on the ball. However, the visitors took an unexpected lead through Brendon Santalab. From a corner, Santalab got horizontal to smash a volley into the bottom right corner of the Wellington goal.

    The 55th minute saw the Wanderers double their advantage in the blink of an eye. Mitch Nichols scoring his first goal in the A-League, finishing off a well worked move down the left flank.

    Unfortunately the match fell apart for Western Sydney from this moment on. Less than 10 minutes later they had conceded a penalty. Sotirio stuck in a boot on Roy Krishna, and he was adjudged to have fouled the winger in the box. Gui Finkler stepped up from the spot & stroked it home to make the score 2-1.

    After conceding a penalty, Sotirio then won another in the Wellington box. Captain Dimas strode to the spot, but his penalty was atrocious, a weak effort aimed straight at where any keeper on the planet would be diving if they picked the wrong way. Glen Moss snaffled the ball while Dimas looked forlornly as he trundled back in position.

    Wellington made the Wanderers pay immediately, with Parkhouse delivering on his left foot a cross that saw Krishna beat the 5 defenders in the vicinity, climbing over Jack Clisby and burying a header at the far post.

    Both teams had their chances to take all three points, but neither could summon that one last key chance. Both teams remain outside the top 6, and for Tony Popovic the pressure must surely be mounting, with just 2 wins from 11 games.

    I will go so far as to say that failure to win against the Brisbane Roar next week should put Popovic's job in jeopardy. This string of "close but not good enough" results cannot be allowed to continue without any change. If Popovic is unwilling to make the changes to the squad or tactics, then it is ownership of the team, who have presided over several years of cheap recruitment who must front up to the fans and explain why they refuse to invest in the squad despite making millions off the move to the Olympic precinct.


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    echidna

    Posted

    The end result was not great, but at least Nichols finally got on the scoresheet. Santa's goal was terrific and an apt reward for a player who always gives everything he has.

     

    I think that Nico (Martinez) should drift closer to a team's last line a bit more often. He is almost guaranteed to beat the first man who challenges him and would be in more situations like the one he found himself in around the 43rd (?) minute when he broke free, but inexplicably failed to kick the ball with the outside of his left foot - instead curling it wide of their left hand post.

     

    Can't wait for January and the hopeful infusion of real quality. It will have to come at a fair price, but it is desperately needed.

    WanderingToqui

    Posted

    In all honesty, I would offload Dimas and bring in Bonevacia. Always composed and his diagonal long balls are killer. Also knows when to track back.

    Dimas has been much too error prone of late. Bonevacia is a much more dynamic player.

    Imagine Piñatares at the base of the midfield with Nichols and Bonevacia further up. Then Martinez in a free roaming playmaker role. Have our fullbacks up and down the flanks. A commanding cb next to Aspro. A keeper who is boss and a deadly number 9.

    Ahhh to dream!

    wendybr

    Posted

    Congrats Valter...

     

    Just a big shout out to those that went to Auckland in the full knowledge that we are shite..know Wendy and Megan were among them, great effort and hope you have a great time.

    I was hoping the camera might show the WSW.

     

     

    The positive was it was a pretty lively game end to end

    But yeah **** me this is season 3 all over I really can't see it changing

    We are incapable of defending soundly for 90 mins

    **** me what a stupid pen to give away from sotorio

    It's what ten games in now and we have Won 2 games one with a lucky last min goal and the other against mariners

     

    **** me this is nowhere near as bad as season 3. In season 3 we could hardly string 3 passes together and never looked like making the top 6. Granted we are never going to emulate seasons 1,2 and 4 this year but we're well capable of 5th/6th and a chance in the end of season KO.

    Yeah.....but at least we are getting a new stadium..... yay....

    Only just catching up here...and I've only had a chance to skim the match thread.

     

    I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed the game experience in Auckland, despite the result.

     

    Probably no more than 20 people in Red and Black....but it was fun!

     

    He isnt a forumite...but one of our number repeatedly kicked off some simple chants...and for as few of us as there were, that would have been heard by the team.

     

    We were joined by some local kids...who dont support the Nix. They generated a few non WSW chants of their own, joined in the WDWSF and the Posnan...and had fun.

     

    Highlight for me actually I saw on the other thread drove some of you crazy during the game.

     

    And that was mainly one little Nix supporter of probably about 8 or 9 who chanted for ages (yes Boro and Goat...I know I know) Best of all, was the seccie on the other side of the fence who smiled, danced (subtly) and encouraged this little kid's efforts.

     

    A lot of the crowd would have been non Nix people...and there was nothing near us to signal any Yellow Army support had travelled...but maybe it was at the other end of the stadium to us.

     

    Anyway...it wasn't as good as the Wullington experience, but it was good natured and fun to me.

     

    Oh... except how DEVASTATED the team was when they came over. Distressing to see that tbh...but they all did come over to thank the travelling support.

     

    PS Nice to meet David!

     

    PPS Cold Rock...was that you sitting two seats away from the guy who led the chants??

    Smoggy

    Posted

     

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    And that was mainly one little Nix supporter of probably about 8 or 9 who chanted for ages (yes Boro and Goat...I know I know) Best of all, was the seccie on the other side of the fence who smiled, danced (subtly) and encouraged this little kid's efforts.

     

     

     

     

    Hey Wendy, glad you had a good time....

     

    I am making a conscious effort and a 2017 new years resolution to stop being a grumpy fooker lol It is going to take much resolve and massive effort to turn around at least 10 years or so of being a miserable chunt..but I am confident I can at least half it  :D

    wendybr

    Posted

    Hahaha...you might be a bit grumpy...but we love you anyway! :D :D

     

    I can understand how 30-40 mins of "Let's go Phoenix, let's go" Bang Bang! became a little monotonous...but he really was a little trooper!

     

    PS at the end of the game, I went to the seccie and congratulated him on his attitude. It was a delight to see him interacting with this little kid. Not sure if his superiors would have agreed...

     

    But overall, the security people were relaxed and friendly. As they were in Wellington.

    Taurus

    Posted

    Have they folded the club yet?

     

    Won't be long now

    SBW

    Posted

    Feels like a loss....

     

    You look at the starters, look at the bench and is obvious we do not have the quality to compete, we are a 9th to 6th placed side at best. I still think we could make the 6 but we are light years behind the top 3 or 4 that i can't see any end of season miracle. Hell we have tried and failed few times now to become only the second side to win an away GF (not counting CCM against us as it was basically a neutral venue) never mind winning the ****er from 5th or 6th.

     

    Question marks about recruitment and i am tired of being slow starters, wouldnt it be great that one season we can start with a team that is coherent, knows the style they are to play and dont have any players tha will need 5 or 6 round before they are right...

     

    Bozza suggesed yesterday that we should revert to a season 1 style, but we dont have the players to do that. We dont have the full backs, center back pairing or a solid midfield battler to be able to do that.

     

    I dont personally like Dimas as a captain, nothing to do with the penna miss. I just think he is not a leader, and dont think he is as good as some here think he is.

     

    Dimas reminds me of Mascherano after Xabi Alonso left Liverpool, Mascherano was given more responsibility to make more passes in the midfield taking in Xabi's role, it impacted his game and he was unhappy towards the end of the season

     

    Thats how I see with Dimas, he is taking up Andreaus role in midfield and it has hampered his game.

     

    The captaincy is putting more pressure on him and he doesn't look like the kind of leader we need. He reminds a lot like Andrew Ryan when he was captain at the bulldogs, showed no leadership at all.

     

    Peter Green tends to **** us over but enough about him, he's not the reason why we lost.

     

    If that dumbass dimas put that penalty away, we would be 3-1. That was a faarken **** penalty take and the Nux scored shortly after to equalise.

     

    For me the turning point in the game was the penalty we gave away. Wellington started ok, we got 2-0 up they weren't in the game.

     

    Prior to game I asked people to post the Type of Defensive Stuff Up, Culprit and Minute before the game, as there has been one every game

     

    Nobody got

     

    Stuffing Round with the ball in your own box when having plenty of opportunity to clear it - leading to a penalty

    Sotirio

    60th min

     

    2-1 they are now back in a game they had no right to be in, the whole momentum shifted back to them, which of course continued when Dimas missed the Pen (turning point 2)

     

    We can't expect to win games, when each week we give a stupid goal away.

     

     

    That was the turning point of the game, the Nux were pressing and Baccus was losing the ball in crucial positions. But again, we had a chance couple of minutes later to go 2 up again Dimas fluffed it, the nux scored not long afterwards.

    It wasn't Popa who took his foot off the gas at 2-0, the players have to wear the blame for this result.

     

    We're not even halfway through the season yet and are equal 6th. The season is not over.

     

    As to my previous point, in the leadup to Nux getting that goal 1st goal, Baccus was giving away possession and he was on a yellow card as well, it would have been ideal of Popa to see this problem beforehand like most world class managers go by substituting Baccus for Pinateres. But he had to wait for their second goal near the 70th minute to make a change.

    beatsurrender

    Posted

    Hahaha...you might be a bit grumpy...but we love you anyway! :D :D

     

    I can understand how 30-40 mins of "Let's go Phoenix, let's go" Bang Bang! became a little monotonous...but he really was a little trooper!

     

    PS at the end of the game, I went to the seccie and congratulated him on his attitude. It was a delight to see him interacting with this little kid. Not sure if his superiors would have agreed...

     

    But overall, the security people were relaxed and friendly. As they were in Wellington.

     

    I think one of the reasons the NZ cops are far more relaxed is that I bet there isn't all the negative 'Sokkah thugs' in the mainstream media over there and talkback shock jocks sticking the boot in at every opportunity. 

    WestSyd

    Posted (edited)

     

    Hahaha...you might be a bit grumpy...but we love you anyway! :D :D

    I can understand how 30-40 mins of "Let's go Phoenix, let's go" Bang Bang! became a little monotonous...but he really was a little trooper!

    PS at the end of the game, I went to the seccie and congratulated him on his attitude. It was a delight to see him interacting with this little kid. Not sure if his superiors would have agreed...

    But overall, the security people were relaxed and friendly. As they were in Wellington.

     

    I think one of the reasons the NZ cops are far more relaxed is that I bet there isn't all the negative 'Sokkah thugs' in the mainstream media over there and talkback shock jocks sticking the boot in at every opportunity.

    The stereotypes do exist. It's just that rugby is such a dominant sport there that they don't need to stoop to that level, as they don't feel threatened the way AFL does here. Funny thing is that AFL is extremely dominant here (at least in the southern states), but they fear immigration and any progress football makes. It reeks of insecurity. Edited by WestSyd
    Wobblies

    Posted

    I don't know if there has been a comment on the penalty count, we were penalised 29 times which is quite frankly disgraceful. Also, I would say our "yellow card" stats would not be very impressive. Very poor discipline on the field for me is an indication of poor coaching/communication on and off the field. One of a number of things needing prompt attention.

    SBW

    Posted

    I don't know if there has been a comment on the penalty count, we were penalised 29 times which is quite frankly disgraceful. Also, I would say our "yellow card" stats would not be very impressive. Very poor discipline on the field for me is an indication of poor coaching/communication on and off the field. One of a number of things needing prompt attention.

     

    Thats Peter Green for you, he tends to favour the home team when we have him as ref away from home

     

    Case in point, the game against the Vics in season 2 where he cost us a win for incorrectly calling fouls against us and again in the GF against the Roar in season 2, he was the hometown ref from Brisbane, most of the 50-50 calls went against us and the Roar were getting away with them.

    Uskana

    Posted

     

     

    I don't know if there has been a comment on the penalty count, we were penalised 29 times which is quite frankly disgraceful. Also, I would say our "yellow card" stats would not be very impressive. Very poor discipline on the field for me is an indication of poor coaching/communication on and off the field. One of a number of things needing prompt attention.

    Thats Peter Green for you, he tends to favour the home team when we have him as ref away from home

     

    Case in point, the game against the Vics in season 2 where he cost us a win for incorrectly calling fouls against us and again in the GF against the Roar in season 2, he was the hometown ref from Brisbane, most of the 50-50 calls went against us and the Roar were getting away with them.

    We had 29 penalties against us??? What game was I watching :P

    Sithslayer1991

    Posted

    Ok after reading this forum I'm confused why people are blaming Tyson, Sotirio and Baccus, the ref and then saying that we need a new striker (for this game I don't mean for this season cause we do need one Long term). 

    We were 2-0 up and cruising really could have been 3-0 the way it was going and what was a very defendable open play ended up a penalty cause we were screwing around in the box. And of all people the person who did the backpass was none other than our captain Dimas.

     

    Were 2-1 still winning but then not only did we get a penalty but after the keeper saved it we have another 2 more opportunities to go 3-1 up. Instead more shambolic defending. I mean how was the winger from the Nix so open? no pressure and quality cross with a flying Krishna it was like watch Nico header against the Mariners.

     

    I have to put the blame squarely on Dimas and Popa. Dimas as captain has to be the leader needs to be vocal and regroup the team especially when were at 2-1 and the momentum was shifting should have tried to slow the game down and bring under control.

    Popa gets the blame as well at 2-1 Baccus does need to come off but his replacement is Bruno is a like for like replacement. We needed someone to slow the game down bring the game under our control or regroup the team to defend the lead. At 2-0 with 30 minutes to play there are no excuses on not winning the game and the sad thing was when we conceded the first thing I thought was were either gonna draw or lose because I'm not confident in this team holding on for the result like the old days

    ColdRock

    Posted

     

    Congrats Valter...

     

    Just a big shout out to those that went to Auckland in the full knowledge that we are shite..know Wendy and Megan were among them, great effort and hope you have a great time.

    I was hoping the camera might show the WSW.

     

     

    The positive was it was a pretty lively game end to end

    But yeah **** me this is season 3 all over I really can't see it changing

    We are incapable of defending soundly for 90 mins

    **** me what a stupid pen to give away from sotorio

    It's what ten games in now and we have Won 2 games one with a lucky last min goal and the other against mariners

     

    **** me this is nowhere near as bad as season 3. In season 3 we could hardly string 3 passes together and never looked like making the top 6. Granted we are never going to emulate seasons 1,2 and 4 this year but we're well capable of 5th/6th and a chance in the end of season KO.

    Yeah.....but at least we are getting a new stadium..... yay....

    Only just catching up here...and I've only had a chance to skim the match thread.

     

    I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed the game experience in Auckland, despite the result.

     

    Probably no more than 20 people in Red and Black....but it was fun!

     

    He isnt a forumite...but one of our number repeatedly kicked off some simple chants...and for as few of us as there were, that would have been heard by the team.

     

    We were joined by some local kids...who dont support the Nix. They generated a few non WSW chants of their own, joined in the WDWSF and the Posnan...and had fun.

     

    Highlight for me actually I saw on the other thread drove some of you crazy during the game.

     

    And that was mainly one little Nix supporter of probably about 8 or 9 who chanted for ages (yes Boro and Goat...I know I know) Best of all, was the seccie on the other side of the fence who smiled, danced (subtly) and encouraged this little kid's efforts.

     

    A lot of the crowd would have been non Nix people...and there was nothing near us to signal any Yellow Army support had travelled...but maybe it was at the other end of the stadium to us.

     

    Anyway...it wasn't as good as the Wullington experience, but it was good natured and fun to me.

     

    Oh... except how DEVASTATED the team was when they came over. Distressing to see that tbh...but they all did come over to thank the travelling support.

     

    PS Nice to meet David!

     

    PPS Cold Rock...was that you sitting two seats away from the guy who led the chants??

    Indeed I tip my hat to the Facebook guy with the lisp, he's got ticker. At stages he did seem to dale, said he stays out of RBB because he can't commit to full game performances. If only some RBB members were this honest.

     

    Despite not knowing the words to the chants he went hard. Being surrounded by families I was looking forward to enjoying a quiet game, felt really guilty about this when they started taking corners in our laps.

     

    This was an indication of how good the stadium was. Surprised to see a proper local football stadium in a South Auckland industrial area. A proper bowl carved into the suburb. Love to go again

    Wanderboy

    Posted

     

     

    Congrats Valter...

     

    Just a big shout out to those that went to Auckland in the full knowledge that we are shite..know Wendy and Megan were among them, great effort and hope you have a great time.

    I was hoping the camera might show the WSW.

     

    The positive was it was a pretty lively game end to end

    But yeah **** me this is season 3 all over I really can't see it changing

    We are incapable of defending soundly for 90 mins

    **** me what a stupid pen to give away from sotorio

    It's what ten games in now and we have Won 2 games one with a lucky last min goal and the other against mariners

    **** me this is nowhere near as bad as season 3. In season 3 we could hardly string 3 passes together and never looked like making the top 6. Granted we are never going to emulate seasons 1,2 and 4 this year but we're well capable of 5th/6th and a chance in the end of season KO.

    Yeah.....but at least we are getting a new stadium..... yay....

    Only just catching up here...and I've only had a chance to skim the match thread.

     

    I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed the game experience in Auckland, despite the result.

     

    Probably no more than 20 people in Red and Black....but it was fun!

     

    He isnt a forumite...but one of our number repeatedly kicked off some simple chants...and for as few of us as there were, that would have been heard by the team.

     

    We were joined by some local kids...who dont support the Nix. They generated a few non WSW chants of their own, joined in the WDWSF and the Posnan...and had fun.

     

    Highlight for me actually I saw on the other thread drove some of you crazy during the game.

     

    And that was mainly one little Nix supporter of probably about 8 or 9 who chanted for ages (yes Boro and Goat...I know I know) Best of all, was the seccie on the other side of the fence who smiled, danced (subtly) and encouraged this little kid's efforts.

     

    A lot of the crowd would have been non Nix people...and there was nothing near us to signal any Yellow Army support had travelled...but maybe it was at the other end of the stadium to us.

     

    Anyway...it wasn't as good as the Wullington experience, but it was good natured and fun to me.

     

    Oh... except how DEVASTATED the team was when they came over. Distressing to see that tbh...but they all did come over to thank the travelling support.

     

    PS Nice to meet David!

     

    PPS Cold Rock...was that you sitting two seats away from the guy who led the chants??

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    This was an indication of how good the stadium was. Surprised to see a proper local football stadium in a South Auckland industrial area. A proper bowl carved into the suburb. Love to go again

     

     

     

    I've been there for an NRL game 15 years ago.

    Loved the stadium. Hated the location.

    It's a shame it isn't so much closer to the city.

    theguyyouwishyouwere

    Posted

    the pub we joined the yellow fever at was a tiny shithole reminiscent of something you'd find in the rougher parts of blacktown/north st marys, in the middle of an industrial area 15 minute walk away from the stadium. Only pub around. 

     

    its so far away from everything, and makes olympic park look kinda good. nice stadium though, and the hill on the northern end is nice and steep and would be perfect for safe standing.

    Neverbloom

    Posted

    the pub we joined the yellow fever at was a tiny shithole reminiscent of something you'd find in the rougher parts of blacktown/north st marys,

    kinda like the roxy hotel

    DontCallMeJacko

    Posted

    the pub we joined the yellow fever at was a tiny shithole reminiscent of something you'd find in the rougher parts of blacktown/north st marys, in the middle of an industrial area 15 minute walk away from the stadium. Only pub around. 

     

    its so far away from everything, and makes olympic park look kinda good. nice stadium though, and the hill on the northern end is nice and steep and would be perfect for safe standing.

     

     

    Damn, knew I should have gone to this one

    theguyyouwishyouwere

    Posted

     

    the pub we joined the yellow fever at was a tiny shithole reminiscent of something you'd find in the rougher parts of blacktown/north st marys, in the middle of an industrial area 15 minute walk away from the stadium. Only pub around. 

     

    its so far away from everything, and makes olympic park look kinda good. nice stadium though, and the hill on the northern end is nice and steep and would be perfect for safe standing.

     

     

    Damn, knew I should have gone to this one

     

     

    wrong city?




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