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    mack

    The Western Sydney Wanderers fell to a 3-1 defeat against last placed Western United in Parramatta tonight, heaping pressure on the leadership of Marko Rudan.

    Western Sydney came in hoping erase some of the pain of the 4-1 loss in the Sydney Derby last week and wanting to snap a streak with just one win from the last five games. Instead they fell to a 3-1 loss despite going ahead through a great Nicolas Milanovic goal, conceding three late as the defence fell to pieces.

    The big squad news was the return of Marcus Antonsson to the team much sooner than the expected 8 week injury lay-off. Tom Beadling came into the starting 11 in place with Alex Badolato dropping out entirely & Lawrence Thomas made his way back to the squad as the reserve goalkeeper. Former Wanderer Josh Risdon lead out Western United as their Captain, and on the other side Nicolas Milanovic and Dylan Pierias were wanting to make an impact against their former side.

    Western United had the first big chance of the game after 4 minutes, a right footed cross that made it's way into the penalty area. Riku Danzaki met it with a stooping header but the ball's progress was 

    2 minutes later a minor scuffle developed when Lachie Wales was brought down near half-way by Aidan Simmons, the flash-point behind Tom Beadling kicking the ball into Wales just as the referee blew for the foul. The two sides came together and almost as quickly came apart with no sanctions on either side. Lachlan Brook had a long range effort that flashed wide in the 13th minute.

    WU had another penalty claim in the 22nd minute, Garuccio and Daniel Penha played a neat one-two that ended with Garuccio falling in the box, the shout waved away by referee Ben Abraham and the VAR, while Garuccios scrabbled in the pitch looking for a piece of tooth that had broken off in a collision with the ball. He eventually found the wayward incisor, passed it off to the physio and continued to play.

    Marcelo picked up his 5th yellow card of the season on the half-hour, a tangle of legs & arms with Michael Ruhs that saw the defender the first name into the notebook, a costly card that will see him miss the Tuesday away game against Melbourne City. Marcelo was the only thing standing in the way of Ruhs or Danzaki opening the scoring, Wales getting into the penalty area and cutting back across the 6 yard box where Danzaki was unmarked at the back post waiting for the tap-in that never came. Tomoki Imai earned the first card for Western United for shoving Nicolas Milanovic into the sideline camera nest at high speed.

    Western United had yet another cry for a penalty on the cusp of half-time, Seb Pasquali was running into the area after a handball from Simmons, the attacker falling to the floor after initiating contact with Jack Clisby, the subsequent free kick fired into the wall. The half dragged on until it's conclusion, a dismal 45 minutes from both sides with little excitement.

    The Wanderers came out of the half looking better and Milanovic broke the deadlock 7 minutes into it. A team move that began at the back ended with Milanovic and Borrello playing off each other to give the young winger room to shoot and on his right foot Milanovic fired from 24 yards, well outside the penalty area and skidded a perfectly aimed shot past the full length dive of Matt Sutton, off the goal-post and in to make it 1-0.

    Western United almost equalised immediately, their 7th corner of the game threatened an Olimpico before Marcelo rose at the near post to smash it off the goalpost, before a return shot from Angus Thurgate that had Margush beaten but not Milanovic who was covering the far post and was perfectly placed to block it off the line. Thurgate went into the book for a flying lunge on Jorrit Hendrix that wiped out the Wanderers midfielder and prevented the team from continuing the attack.

    The 67th minute had Garuccio putting the ball on a plate for Ruhs, the left wing cross that beat the keeper and Marcelo's cover defence for Ruhs 6 yards out from goal. The striker had front position but had an air swing when you would expect him to hammer it home. It was the type of miss that you expect from a bottom ranked team.. but they ended up equalising moments later. Oscar Priestman's introduction to the game was smashing an attempted clearance into Risdon's head, the ball deflecting off him into the path of Penha and with the defence out of position he lifted it over Tom Beadling for the run of Matthew Grimaldi who took one touch and fired it underneath the onrushing Margush to level the scores at 1 apiece.

    The visitors were unlucky not to go ahead in the 72nd, another left footed cross from out wide that wasn't dealt with, leaving a free header on the edge of the 6 yard box that miraculously ended up going straight at Margush.

    Daniel Penha was the anchor that Western United had built around, in the 77th minute he scored a goal his good play had deserved. The Wanderers midfield stopped and waited for a handball call that never came, allowing Ruhs to turn toward goal. Simmons stuck a foot in and knocked the ball away but with Marcelo jogging on the edge of the area the touch went straight to Penha, the Brazilian maestro took one touch to take the ball on his left and fired in a pinpoint accurate shot across the bows of Margush that nestled into the back of the net.

    Western United punished some atrocious defending with a quick fire 3rd. A rough challenge on Clisby deep into the WU defensive half was let go by Abraham, after winning the ball back the first thought was an immediate kick up field from Penha that put former Wanderer Nikita Rukavytsya clean in on goal, his first touch was good and his second on the edge of the area beat Margush who had next to no hope of stopping it.

    Neither Rudan or the players had anything in response. The addition of Milos Ninkovic did nothing as he had less than 10 touches in 20 minutes, and Pierias or Antonsson had nothing to offer in stoppage time.

    What else is there to say other than Rudan has in the space of a week, lead his team to a 4-1 loss in a Sydney Derby, then followed it up with an agonisingly poor 3-1 loss to the team in last place.

    Enough is enough. Rudan has talked the talk, just like Babbell and his mentality, and Robinson and his streams of bullshit. These two results haven't had anything to do with a "stigma" or the officiating, and in fact these games the Wanderers had the better of it, particularly the VAR. Once again Lederer has proven his utter inability to understand football, falling for the oldest trick in the agent's book, the pretend "interest from overseas" that once got Vedran Janjetovic a disastrous 4 year contract. This time around it was "only" a three year extension that Rudan was handed on a gold platter with **** all to show for it, and now his poor attitude and tactical ineptitude has put the Wanderers on the precipice of a top 6 exit. Not that it would likely matter even if we scraped in as the 5th or 6th place team. Even if that happened it would more papering over the cracks of another failure of a season.

    The Wanderers next match is against Melbourne City on Tuesday the 13th of March at AAMI Park, Melbourne with kick-off at 7pm.


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    MartinTyler

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, Wanderboy said:

    Sadly, this club continues to suck my passion I once had for them out of me.

    Last night's match has left me speechless. A lifeless, gutless effort.  11 + headless chooks running around the pitch, without any clue how to combat being hacked out of the game by the opposition for the 2nd week running. Let alone being tactically inept enough to take control against a team at the bottom of the ladder.

    Rudan's stubbornness to change up the tactics leaves me scratching my head. The last straw was making a double change including bringing Antonsen on in the 90th min, just wasting more added extra time. WTF is Thomas doing on the bench?

    Add this to the fact that years ago, after active support abuse from security and police raised its ugly head, nothing seems to have changed. Last weekend was an absolute disgrace in fan - security relations. It has been somewhat pleasing to see that the club have covered our backs this time. Kudos to Scott Barlow.

    If the club wonder why attendances are at a low point, they need to take a good hard long look at themselves. There's only so much social media promotion they can pump out to encourage tickets sales. It's the deep down issues that need to be addressed. Success on the field and the long ongoing security issues.

    As we all know, there has mostly only ever been problems with the cops when they turn up in force raptor style. Pepper spraying kids comes to mind.

    The APL has been a toothless tiger, yet they promised that they would be run by the clubs, for the clubs, And fans.  Besides Scott, I've seen nothing of that so far.

    As a passionate Wanderers fan, I am more disillusioned now than ever. Both with on field and off field issues.

    The only reason I have Paramount+ is to watch the Wanderers. I'm even thinking of cancelling that. I'm really getting to the F-U A-League stage.

    Scott Barlow?

    Davo

    Posted

    Analysing the tactics of that is a bit like reviewing a frame by frame replay of someone falling down the stairs.

    Whenever we had settled possession we always went into exactly the same shape. One fullback pushed forward so we had a back three of two CB’s and the other fullback. The two DM’s stayed in front of them. The front four plus the fullback then formed a line of five along their back line.

    It’s pretty common for teams to try and get five forward in attack, but they don’t do it until they’ve moved the ball nearer to the final third. We did it when Marcelo had his foot on the ball deep in our half.

    It’s way too easy to defend against. If you back the pace of your defenders you play a high line and clean up all the balls pumped over the top, or wait for the inevitable offside flag. If you don’t have quick defenders you play deeper and extend the gap between our front five and back five even further.

    We had zero movement in the front five other than Borello constantly setting up runs in behind for balls over the top that didn’t come. Occasionally a player would drop out of the five to receive a ball to feet, but then they’d get swamped by the opposition midfield as their only options were miles behind them or statues up front.

    The goal came from players actually moving and making short passes. We did that at the start of the season, but now we’ve regressed balls over the top or slowly working backwards to Margush, who plays a panicked ball over the top.

    Also the atmosphere in the ground is garbage without the RBB.

    Wanderboy

    Posted

    9 minutes ago, Davo said:

     

    Also the atmosphere in the ground is garbage without the RBB.

    It's like an NRL or AFL game. Cheer squad central. It's what sets our game apart from the others.

    Don't even mention Rugby. May as well be at a game of chess.

    Zelinsky

    Posted

    For people like Statler and Waldorf (the two heckling old geezers from the muppet show) wsw home games are the place to be. 

    Ive come to the conclusion that wsw are the 1860 Munich of the AL - massive potential, but a basket case. Remembered for winning the german cup in 1964, losing the cup winner cup final against west ham in 1965, and winning the bundesliga in 1966. currently chronic under achievers in BL3.

    Future generations will talk about wsw's acl win while the club lingers in second tier of domestic football. 

     

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    40 minutes ago, Zelinsky said:

    For people like Statler and Waldorf (the two heckling old geezers from the muppet show) wsw home games are the place to be. 

    Ive come to the conclusion that wsw are the 1860 Munich of the AL - massive potential, but a basket case. Remembered for winning the german cup in 1964, losing the cup winner cup final against west ham in 1965, and winning the bundesliga in 1966. currently chronic under achievers in BL3.

    Future generations will talk about wsw's acl win while the club lingers in second tier of domestic football. 

     

    One word 

     

     

    Everton

    Zelinsky

    Posted

    13 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    One word 

     

     

    Everton

    Fun fact: I was present when they won the cup winners cup in 1995 in Rotterdam.

    25k travelling everton supporters, they were an awesome sight and sound, to date the most impressive football crowd  I've ever witnessed. 2 were arrested during the game, and five before the game. I witnessed a slice of the latter, a few Dutch guys provoked everton fans, they responded, and then police moved in. Funny how that works. 

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rotterdam-1985-everton-fans-club-9253584o

    bombagol

    Posted (edited)

    To put it into perspective how bad last night’s loss to WU was:

    WU is coming dead last (even after beating us) and they are the worst goal scorers in the league by 7 goals behind Melbourne City, even after they pumped us 3 in our home. 

    Edited by bombagol
    braad

    Posted

    1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

    One word 

     

     

    Everton

    Pffft, Everton are still in the PL and are generally good enough to stay.

     

    WSW are like, I dunno, Bolton Wanderers?

    Davo

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, braad said:

    Pffft, Everton are still in the PL and are generally good enough to stay.

     

    WSW are like, I dunno, Bolton Wanderers?

    Given our Australia Cup record I wouldn’t be comparing us to a club that won the FA Cup four times.

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, braad said:

    Pffft, Everton are still in the PL and are generally good enough to stay.

     

    WSW are like, I dunno, Bolton Wanderers?

    Big Club, lots of fans who stick with it despite little success, total wankers for neighbors

    See it's Everton 

     

    braad

    Posted

    3 hours ago, Davo said:

    Given our Australia Cup record I wouldn’t be comparing us to a club that won the FA Cup four times.

    lol, yes… a lonnnnng time ago, and sfa since, and collapsed.

     

    braad

    Posted (edited)

    3 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

    Big Club, lots of fans who stick with it despite little success, total wankers for neighbors

    See it's Everton 

     

    Of ****, and their neighbours are much more successful… you might be right :P

    Edited by braad
    Davo

    Posted

    12 hours ago, braad said:

    lol, yes… a lonnnnng time ago, and sfa since, and collapsed.

     

    Since the A-League began they’ve played in Europe, drawing away to Bayern Munich and eliminating Athletico Madrid in the knockout stage.

    SBW

    Posted

    On 08/03/2024 at 9:59 PM, mack said:

    Once again Lederer has proven his utter inability to understand football, falling for the oldest trick in the agent's book, the pretend "interest from overseas" that once got Vedran Janjetovic a disastrous 4 year contract. This time around it was "only" a three year extension that Rudan was handed on a gold platter with **** all to show for it, and now his poor attitude and tactical ineptitude has put the Wanderers on the precipice of a top 6 exit.

    And this is why we need a DoF, someone who can make these football decisions. Something that Lederer has been incapable of doing.

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    11 minutes ago, SBW said:

    And this is why we need a DoF, someone who can make these football decisions. Something that Lederer has been incapable of doing.

    It's effectively Rudan at the moment. So do we trust Lederrer to pick a decent DoF, it's just another decisionf for him to get wrong

    marron

    Posted

    Yeah that's what I was going to say. He picked a DoF already, it's Rudan.

    Always amazes me these succesful CEOs and their amazing business acumen.

    I suppose the next step will be the outsourcing of a big review to some consultancy using the WSW books and puting a hole in the transfer budget. That's how business works, right?

     

    Smoggy

    Posted (edited)

    On 9/3/2024 at 8:20 PM, braad said:

    Pffft, Everton are still in the PL and are generally good enough to stay.

     

    WSW are like, I dunno, Bolton Wanderers?

    Phew…that moment of relief when Boro for once isnt picked as a compatibility to shyte.

    Edited by Smoggy
    braad

    Posted

    On 10/3/2024 at 12:12 PM, Davo said:

    Since the A-League began they’ve played in Europe, drawing away to Bayern Munich and eliminating Athletico Madrid in the knockout stage.

    Yep, and how long ago was that? And what happened since?

    William

    Posted

    Have you noticed there have been no interviews or club updates in the last few weeks other than Rudan's after match interview we have really gone to ground.

    braad

    Posted

    On 12/3/2024 at 1:01 PM, William said:

    Have you noticed there have been no interviews or club updates in the last few weeks other than Rudan's after match interview we have really gone to ground.

    The club (like most A-League clubs) are poor in communication whenever there’s a bit of strife. Always happy to pedal their coaching clinics, or generally anything positive.

     

    Scott Hudson’s response to the derby policing issues is an absolute outlier




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