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    The Western Sydney Wanderers fell to a 3-1 defeat against last placed Western United in Parramatta tonight, heaping pressure on the leadership of Marko Rudan.

    Western Sydney came in hoping erase some of the pain of the 4-1 loss in the Sydney Derby last week and wanting to snap a streak with just one win from the last five games. Instead they fell to a 3-1 loss despite going ahead through a great Nicolas Milanovic goal, conceding three late as the defence fell to pieces.

    The big squad news was the return of Marcus Antonsson to the team much sooner than the expected 8 week injury lay-off. Tom Beadling came into the starting 11 in place with Alex Badolato dropping out entirely & Lawrence Thomas made his way back to the squad as the reserve goalkeeper. Former Wanderer Josh Risdon lead out Western United as their Captain, and on the other side Nicolas Milanovic and Dylan Pierias were wanting to make an impact against their former side.

    Western United had the first big chance of the game after 4 minutes, a right footed cross that made it's way into the penalty area. Riku Danzaki met it with a stooping header but the ball's progress was 

    2 minutes later a minor scuffle developed when Lachie Wales was brought down near half-way by Aidan Simmons, the flash-point behind Tom Beadling kicking the ball into Wales just as the referee blew for the foul. The two sides came together and almost as quickly came apart with no sanctions on either side. Lachlan Brook had a long range effort that flashed wide in the 13th minute.

    WU had another penalty claim in the 22nd minute, Garuccio and Daniel Penha played a neat one-two that ended with Garuccio falling in the box, the shout waved away by referee Ben Abraham and the VAR, while Garuccios scrabbled in the pitch looking for a piece of tooth that had broken off in a collision with the ball. He eventually found the wayward incisor, passed it off to the physio and continued to play.

    Marcelo picked up his 5th yellow card of the season on the half-hour, a tangle of legs & arms with Michael Ruhs that saw the defender the first name into the notebook, a costly card that will see him miss the Tuesday away game against Melbourne City. Marcelo was the only thing standing in the way of Ruhs or Danzaki opening the scoring, Wales getting into the penalty area and cutting back across the 6 yard box where Danzaki was unmarked at the back post waiting for the tap-in that never came. Tomoki Imai earned the first card for Western United for shoving Nicolas Milanovic into the sideline camera nest at high speed.

    Western United had yet another cry for a penalty on the cusp of half-time, Seb Pasquali was running into the area after a handball from Simmons, the attacker falling to the floor after initiating contact with Jack Clisby, the subsequent free kick fired into the wall. The half dragged on until it's conclusion, a dismal 45 minutes from both sides with little excitement.

    The Wanderers came out of the half looking better and Milanovic broke the deadlock 7 minutes into it. A team move that began at the back ended with Milanovic and Borrello playing off each other to give the young winger room to shoot and on his right foot Milanovic fired from 24 yards, well outside the penalty area and skidded a perfectly aimed shot past the full length dive of Matt Sutton, off the goal-post and in to make it 1-0.

    Western United almost equalised immediately, their 7th corner of the game threatened an Olimpico before Marcelo rose at the near post to smash it off the goalpost, before a return shot from Angus Thurgate that had Margush beaten but not Milanovic who was covering the far post and was perfectly placed to block it off the line. Thurgate went into the book for a flying lunge on Jorrit Hendrix that wiped out the Wanderers midfielder and prevented the team from continuing the attack.

    The 67th minute had Garuccio putting the ball on a plate for Ruhs, the left wing cross that beat the keeper and Marcelo's cover defence for Ruhs 6 yards out from goal. The striker had front position but had an air swing when you would expect him to hammer it home. It was the type of miss that you expect from a bottom ranked team.. but they ended up equalising moments later. Oscar Priestman's introduction to the game was smashing an attempted clearance into Risdon's head, the ball deflecting off him into the path of Penha and with the defence out of position he lifted it over Tom Beadling for the run of Matthew Grimaldi who took one touch and fired it underneath the onrushing Margush to level the scores at 1 apiece.

    The visitors were unlucky not to go ahead in the 72nd, another left footed cross from out wide that wasn't dealt with, leaving a free header on the edge of the 6 yard box that miraculously ended up going straight at Margush.

    Daniel Penha was the anchor that Western United had built around, in the 77th minute he scored a goal his good play had deserved. The Wanderers midfield stopped and waited for a handball call that never came, allowing Ruhs to turn toward goal. Simmons stuck a foot in and knocked the ball away but with Marcelo jogging on the edge of the area the touch went straight to Penha, the Brazilian maestro took one touch to take the ball on his left and fired in a pinpoint accurate shot across the bows of Margush that nestled into the back of the net.

    Western United punished some atrocious defending with a quick fire 3rd. A rough challenge on Clisby deep into the WU defensive half was let go by Abraham, after winning the ball back the first thought was an immediate kick up field from Penha that put former Wanderer Nikita Rukavytsya clean in on goal, his first touch was good and his second on the edge of the area beat Margush who had next to no hope of stopping it.

    Neither Rudan or the players had anything in response. The addition of Milos Ninkovic did nothing as he had less than 10 touches in 20 minutes, and Pierias or Antonsson had nothing to offer in stoppage time.

    What else is there to say other than Rudan has in the space of a week, lead his team to a 4-1 loss in a Sydney Derby, then followed it up with an agonisingly poor 3-1 loss to the team in last place.

    Enough is enough. Rudan has talked the talk, just like Babbell and his mentality, and Robinson and his streams of bullshit. These two results haven't had anything to do with a "stigma" or the officiating, and in fact these games the Wanderers had the better of it, particularly the VAR. Once again Lederer has proven his utter inability to understand football, falling for the oldest trick in the agent's book, the pretend "interest from overseas" that once got Vedran Janjetovic a disastrous 4 year contract. This time around it was "only" a three year extension that Rudan was handed on a gold platter with **** all to show for it, and now his poor attitude and tactical ineptitude has put the Wanderers on the precipice of a top 6 exit. Not that it would likely matter even if we scraped in as the 5th or 6th place team. Even if that happened it would more papering over the cracks of another failure of a season.

    The Wanderers next match is against Melbourne City on Tuesday the 13th of March at AAMI Park, Melbourne with kick-off at 7pm.


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    Potkorok

    Posted

    Yep Rudan clearly lost the dressing room and has no idea. Sadly seems to support what a number of people have said about him over the years. Needs to go.

    Geez this club is hard to support

    Potkorok

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    It wasn't..Threw the young players under the bus, horrible 

    That’s disgusting. Get him out

    Upthehill

    Posted

    This is the beginning of vintage Rudan. From memory is was 10 losses on the trot before he got the Old Yeller treatment at WU.

    If theres any truth to the rumours about the rift between LT and Rudan over LT going to the AC, this should be plenty of evidence that Rudan is not in fact in this for the club or for 'the proud people of the west'. He is imploding the club over ego. Even if Rudan were to get the sack, there is approximately zero chance that Lederer will get the next corrective step right. Not a single facet of the club has progressed under his ownership apart from some pretty cool training grounds. 

    My expectation is this is going to get a whole lot worse on and off the park before it gets better

    MathyouWSW

    Posted

    12 minutes ago, Upthehill said:

    This is the beginning of vintage Rudan. From memory is was 10 losses on the trot before he got the Old Yeller treatment at WU. 

    It was 8 in a row: 
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    And then he was sacked 3 days after the season had finished

    Smoggy

    Posted

    46 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    if it was a tragedy then you could have got in to see one of those with your season ticket

    I would say WSW game was more of a farce tbh.

    EmMac

    Posted

    6 hours ago, Cynth said:

    Glad I went to the theatre tonight instead of the game. 

    Nice! I was drinking cocktails at a bar in barangaroo with my UK friend

    Forgot about the match until I got home and frankly glad I missed it. 

    This club just can't seem to find a decent coach. We need to change that because if promotion / relegation comes in.... we're going down

    VedranRozic

    Posted

    Wasn’t that long ago we thought things were finally looking up. Really is the hope that kills you.  

    Supporting this club does your head in. In theory we have everything to be successful: money, fans, infrastructure. 

    Yet since the ACL win the only thing we seem to consistent about is making bad decisions on and off the park.

    Rudan will be gone at the end of the season, but you just have no confidence that this will change anything.

    It is so bloody depressing.

    scarcev

    Posted

    Players you have dictate what style you play and this play it out from the back where Margush has terrible feet, Simmons and Clisby get isolated, our midfielders dont even get the ball in a decent position and the only thing we have is Marcelo putting a ball over the top to strikers running on is like U12s and is all on Rudan.

    CCM with no budget and average juniors have the A League cheat codes and we are too stupid to learn from it. Half decent young Sth American players that can play in our hot conditions, juniors that get a go and are moved on when it is time.  What do we do? Europeans out of negative temperatures who come here to retire and simply fail in our heat.

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    1 hour ago, EmMac said:

    Nice! I was drinking cocktails at a bar in barangaroo with my UK friend

    Forgot about the match until I got home and frankly glad I missed it. 

    This club just can't seem to find a decent coach. We need to change that because if promotion / relegation comes in.... we're going down

    I didn't go as I've been sick all day. I think that was preferable to going 

    StringerBellend

    Posted (edited)

    1 hour ago, VedranRozic said:

    Wasn’t that long ago we thought things were finally looking up. Really is the hope that kills you.  

    Supporting this club does your head in. In theory we have everything to be successful: money, fans, infrastructure. 

    Yet since the ACL win the only thing we seem to consistent about is making bad decisions on and off the park.

    Rudan will be gone at the end of the season, but you just have no confidence that this will change anything.

    It is so bloody depressing.

    He won't make the end of the season 

    Edited by StringerBellend
    pseudonym

    Posted

    I still can't see Lederer paying Rudan out to leave

    IMO - it's more likely Rudan gets his own version of "the treatment" where Lederer knocks back expensive transfer requests

    The aim in that case would be to piss off Rudan so he leaves of his own accord

    Smoggy

    Posted

    1 minute ago, pseudonym said:

     

    IMO - it's more likely Rudan gets his own version of "the treatment" where Lederer knocks back expensive transfer requests

    Every manager gets that treatment.

    sonar

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, Cynth said:

    My fear is the only player who is in form, Milanovic, will find another club or go overseas. 

    Yep. They will be lining up to sign him.....deservedly so. Hope the lad gets a gig OS....deserves it.

    Upthehill

    Posted

    8 hours ago, MathyouWSW said:

    It was 8 in a row: 
    image.png.606ce8d3f566b18444883d4da38d19e1.png
    And then he was sacked 3 days after the season had finished

    Thank you! I couldnt remember if it was just 'really bad' or 'really super ******* bad' :D

    But I remember the vibe around that club when it all started. We will not escape the same fate

    WSWJACK

    Posted

    9 hours ago, Cynth said:

    Glad I went to the theatre tonight instead of the game. 

    There's Shakespeare on the ABC but you can't ask for more drama than this!

    A win a win my kingdom for a win...

    William

    Posted

    After Sydney FC beat us up last week it has exposed a very soft underbelly and Western United came out hard and strong and attempted to bully us with hard tackles and sometimes strong fouls 12 4 at one stage I seen the foul count , what was obvious was Risdon , he was determined to hit us hard and gave away a number of fouls without a caution, Marcelo trips a player and gets a yellow , inconsistency by these refs not just against us but across the whole league including the women is killing the credibility of this competition. 

    So we can only expect to get beaten up on Tuesday and play McLaren and Melbourne city back into form :(  

    WSWJACK

    Posted

    18 minutes ago, William said:

    After Sydney FC beat us up last week it has exposed a very soft underbelly and Western United came out hard and strong and attempted to bully us with hard tackles and sometimes strong fouls 12 4 at one stage I seen the foul count , what was obvious was Risdon , he was determined to hit us hard and gave away a number of fouls without a caution, Marcelo trips a player and gets a yellow , inconsistency by these refs not just against us but across the whole league including the women is killing the credibility of this competition. 

    So we can only expect to get beaten up on Tuesday and play McLaren and Melbourne city back into form :(  

    Yep, amazed how many "get of jail cards" Risdon had in his back pocket last night, seemed determined to kick f*** out of everyone in R&B :angry: 

    102megan

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, WSWJACK said:

    Yep, amazed how many "get of jail cards" 

    Seemingly not as many as *looks at WSW squad and coaching staff*

    Never mind... :ninja:

     

     

    allegedly

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    3 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

    I didn't go as I've been sick all day. I think that was preferable to going 

    Hopefully next week I'll have severe stomach pains and temporary blindness 

     

    MartinTyler

    Posted

    In the match thread I mentioned that I have been more forgiving than most but the performance up until half time was poor. Even after we took the lead and before they equalised it wasn't much better. In many games this season we've played with structure and purpose but not always got the desired result (2nd half fade outs often the key). However last night we played with little structure and the body language was abysmal. It took me back to the bad old days of season 3 where our domestic form was horrible whilst our ACL campaign saw us through to greatness. Last night I was anticipating a much more committed approach with each player understanding what was required of him but generally I saw none of that and this would suggest that there is some unease in the dressing room as the coaching staff should have had the players primed.

    Another thing that gave me the sh1ts was the commentary. They made out that it was a decent game but in effect it was a very poor one from both sides. There is much debate as to where the A League sits in comparison to the English Leagues but last night's was definitely League 2. Are these guys instructed to put a positive spin on it?

     

    BoyFromTheWest

    Posted

    The game was awful.  Both sides were terrible - especially the first half. They lifted more in the second half and Penha got loose.

    It was tedious watching us good back and then further back,  kick it a bit between the back 2 and keeper, with Marcello trying to get some movement happening up field. Eventually he would stand with the ball, dribble a bit and then of load, or Margush would finally belt it upfield.

    I'm not sold on Kittel but he looks like he can't believe what he's come to. He and Hendrix are the only ones in midfield who can hold the ball and look up. But there is no-one to pass to, no-one running out moving at all. Apart from heat, humidity and lack of fitness, he seems to be lost in a system that doesn't exist or make sense, flat footed players... Me and the boys were ready to put out boots on, despite being well-retired many years ago. Don't reckon we'd have done to bad compared to the last we saw on the park.

    BoyFromTheWest

    Posted

    Just saw the presser. Pretty sad really. Either Rudes and I watched different games (we were on different sides of the ground?) or he's a bit delusional. Send to believe the only thing was a few small errors and that we played out from the back quite well.

    Seemed to suggest, as others noted, that we're a very young team and young players make mistakes. Did say they all looked lethargic and he'd have to work out why. It wasn't just lethargy, they were clueless and didn't know what to do. It was pitiful and embarrassing.

    Smoggy

    Posted

    4 hours ago, MartinTyler said:

    In the match thread I mentioned that I have been more forgiving than most but the performance up until half time was poor. Even after we took the lead and before they equalised it wasn't much better. In many games this season we've played with structure and purpose but not always got the desired result (2nd half fade outs often the key). However last night we played with little structure and the body language was abysmal. It took me back to the bad old days of season 3 where our domestic form was horrible whilst our ACL campaign saw us through to greatness. Last night I was anticipating a much more committed approach with each player understanding what was required of him but generally I saw none of that and this would suggest that there is some unease in the dressing room as the coaching staff should have had the players primed.

    Another thing that gave me the sh1ts was the commentary. They made out that it was a decent game but in effect it was a very poor one from both sides. There is much debate as to where the A League sits in comparison to the English Leagues but last night's was definitely League 2. Are these guys instructed to put a positive spin on it?

     

    League 2? That is being kind..I would say National League North or South tbh.

    Wanderboy

    Posted

    Sadly, this club continues to suck my passion I once had for them out of me.

    Last night's match has left me speechless. A lifeless, gutless effort.  11 + headless chooks running around the pitch, without any clue how to combat being hacked out of the game by the opposition for the 2nd week running. Let alone being tactically inept enough to take control against a team at the bottom of the ladder.

    Rudan's stubbornness to change up the tactics leaves me scratching my head. The last straw was making a double change including bringing Antonsen on in the 90th min, just wasting more added extra time. WTF is Thomas doing on the bench?

    Add this to the fact that years ago, after active support abuse from security and police raised its ugly head, nothing seems to have changed. Last weekend was an absolute disgrace in fan - security relations. It has been somewhat pleasing to see that the club have covered our backs this time. Kudos to Scott Barlow.

    If the club wonder why attendances are at a low point, they need to take a good hard long look at themselves. There's only so much social media promotion they can pump out to encourage tickets sales. It's the deep down issues that need to be addressed. Success on the field and the long ongoing security issues.

    As we all know, there has mostly only ever been problems with the cops when they turn up in force raptor style. Pepper spraying kids comes to mind.

    The APL has been a toothless tiger, yet they promised that they would be run by the clubs, for the clubs, And fans.  Besides Scott, I've seen nothing of that so far.

    As a passionate Wanderers fan, I am more disillusioned now than ever. Both with on field and off field issues.

    The only reason I have Paramount+ is to watch the Wanderers. I'm even thinking of cancelling that. I'm really getting to the F-U A-League stage.




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