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    Andrew Redmayne threw away a win for the Wanderers as he gave away a foul then compounded his error by allowing the tame free kick under his arms to give Newcastle a dramatic equaliser deep into stoppage time.

     

    The Wanderers looked liked they were cruising as far into the game as the 80 minute, only to succumb to a late fightback with the game ending 2 all. The home side, playing their first ever match at the Homebush Showground, took an early lead as Artiz Borda scored the opener in the 23rd minute. After returning from suspension, the central defender rose against Nick Cowburn on the edge of the 6 yard box. Newcastle committed the cardinal sin of not having a man on both posts, and Borda's glancing header skidded off the base of the post and over the line for 1-0.

     

    A silly handball from Ben Kantarovski gave club captain Dimas Delgado the opportunity from the penalty spot, and he sent Jack Duncan the wrong way to double the Wanderers lead going into the break.

     

    Nigel Boogaard, better known for getting sent off instead scored a milestone, as he scored the 20,000th goal in the history of Australian league football. He rose at the back stick, with Redmayne coming out but getting nowhere near the ball, along with the rest of his defence, leaving a gaping open goal that Boogaard couldn't miss from a few yards out.

     

    Redmayne cost his side the win in the 88th minute. Giving away the foul 25 yards out from goal after the keeper charged out of goal only to collect substitute Morten Nordstrand as he tried to round the keeper. Andrew Hoole fired at goal, his chest height shot going around the poorly positioned wall, Redmayne was slow to react, and when he did react he reacted poorly, with awful technique that allowed what should have been a routine block to creep under his hands to see the game finish 2-2.

     

    This match can be added to the ever growing list of games that should have ended with a clean sheet but due to defensive frailty ended without one, and this time it also ended with 2 less points for the Wanderers than it should have. Jerrad Tyson must be given a chance to cement a full time starting position, as Redmayne was the difference for the Jets in this game, adding poor handling technique to his already dubious habit of poor judgement when deciding to charge out of his goal. Steven Lustica was anonymous, and despite a stellar pre-season has done little to show why he would be ahead of Nico Fernandez, Shannon Cole or even one of our younger players.

     

    Western Sydney play next when they take on the Central Coast Mariners on Saturday the 29th of October.


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    wswtragic

    Posted

    There were moments in the first half when we "owned" the Jets.Beautiful passing movements,great positional play,tough defending,we just needed to finish them off with the chances that we had but we didn't.I don't know what happened at half time but it was like a different team came out for the second half.

    We have shown in glimpses that we will be competitive with the best this year,the team just needs to do it for 90mins,not 45.

    There seems to be a lack of "shoot *****" happening again. yes, they are playing nice possession football, but I think there's a little too much "put-in-the-last-killer-pass" rather than just blasting a few and testing the other keeper.

     

    Having said that, Redmayne is still awful.

    sonar

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    Bulut is NPL quality.

     

    There, I said it.

     

    to be fair,he was "monstered" by Newcastle on several occasions and should of been given free kicks but wasn't,the ref most probably would of let them get away with murder against him.

     

     

    He is always playing for a free kick and appears to be "monstered" because he can't play with his back to goal, his first touch is horrendous, he has no passing game, his vision and awareness when dribbling the ball is non existent, his dribbling skills are non existent, and the runs he makes off the ball and the channels he operates in are less effective than Andrew Redmayne setting up the wall in the right spot.

     

    Bulut is passionate and he loves the club. But that's not enough.

     

    He reminds me of Roberto Soldado at Spurs. He just isn't good enough.

     

     

    When you get shirt grabbed from behind and get dragged to the ground that should be a free kick,This happened to him on quite a few occasions and no free kicks were awarded.He is not to blame for us not scoring a million goals and beating everyone by 200-0.

    DontCallMeJacko

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    Bulut is NPL quality.

     

    There, I said it.

    to be fair,he was "monstered" by Newcastle on several occasions and should of been given free kicks but wasn't,the ref most probably would of let them get away with murder against him.

    He is always playing for a free kick and appears to be "monstered" because he can't play with his back to goal, his first touch is horrendous, he has no passing game, his vision and awareness when dribbling the ball is non existent, his dribbling skills are non existent, and the runs he makes off the ball and the channels he operates in are less effective than Andrew Redmayne setting up the wall in the right spot.

     

    Bulut is passionate and he loves the club. But that's not enough.

     

    He reminds me of Roberto Soldado at Spurs. He just isn't good enough.

    When you get shirt grabbed from behind and get dragged to the ground that should be a free kick,This happened to him on quite a few occasions and no free kicks were awarded.He is not to blame for us not scoring a million goals and beating everyone by 200-0.

    Well, that's true.

     

    No way is Redmayne keeping a clean sheet.

    Prydzopolis

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    Thought similar about ref, 2nd goal started from break on halfway which looked like a foul

    They kicked Bulut over all game and he basically got nothing, although his yellow card tackle was funny

     

    You could see his yellow coming from the moment he ran across the pitch. As he was running I was thinking yellow or red. He's was going to nail their right back no matter what.
    Yes it was stupid from Bulut but it came down to a pathetic call from Beath. Had he rightly given a yellow card for the chop on Bulut then there wouldn't be any issue. If you get chopped in half from a bad foul with no card, then I have no issue with Bulut doing the exact same thing expecting the same punishment. **** refereeing.

    Speaking of Hamill, why was he subbed on? Was someone worried about injury, or just worn out? Seemed an odd substitute.

    It all seemed a bit suspect to me, it was Clisby who went down after the kamikaze tackle by Redmayne but no medical staff went on the field. In fact I think it was Baccus who had to alert the coaching staff that Clisby was down, to stop the substitution from happening.

     

    But, Clisby wasn't limping or nobody went to stretch out hamstrings/calves like if somebody has a cramp. Maybe he just had nothing in the tank?

    teddies

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    WAtching the replay... 

     

    Borda is hella slow.. got beaten for pace all night. 

    Baccus is improving.

    Bulut needs to drop this whole 'nice effort guys! Next time! :meep:  ' attitude and just be a c u next tuesday. haha.. but srs.

    Nichols is killing himself out there for the whole 90+.. I really hope he gets rewarded soon. 

    toonarmy

    Posted

    Correct . Borda is slow, that's why he's had a career predominantly in spanish 3rd tier. Unbelievable how we signed him for 2 years.

     

    Bulut - he is not the player he was when he left here. A year of being with a shite team in Greece will do that to you.

     

    The midfield spot next to dimas will be a battle between Bacchus and melling. I expect melling to eventually win out

     

    King mitch - one of the classiest players in the league. Everything we create has his hand in there somewhere

    wswtragic

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    Bulut is NPL quality.

     

    There, I said it.

     

    to be fair,he was "monstered" by Newcastle on several occasions and should of been given free kicks but wasn't,the ref most probably would of let them get away with murder against him.

     

     

    He is always playing for a free kick and appears to be "monstered" because he can't play with his back to goal, his first touch is horrendous, he has no passing game, his vision and awareness when dribbling the ball is non existent, his dribbling skills are non existent, and the runs he makes off the ball and the channels he operates in are less effective than Andrew Redmayne setting up the wall in the right spot.

     

    Bulut is passionate and he loves the club. But that's not enough.

     

    He reminds me of Roberto Soldado at Spurs. He just isn't good enough.

     

    I said to my son at the game on Sunday "Bulut has the sensitive touch of a Donald Trump".

     

    He has passion, but some of his play is U10s.

    Guest riva

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    I am not sure why everyone is expecting Bulut to score a truckload of goals. Under Popa we have never had a prolific goalscorer. If he gets anywhere around 10-14 goals that will be a decent return. As a team we have never relied on one single player. We need a few players to chip in some goals to have a good season.

    Because the man himself set a benchmark of 15-20 goals for this season.

     

    Did he really set it himself or did the club , could be the 15 goals triggers a bonus payment or

    promise of another contract.

    xxBrandonxx

    Posted

    Who does the ******* scouting , why the hell would be sign a visa centre back with the pace of a donkey. He's good in the air I'll give him that.

     

    Seriously can't believe Pinatares is already getting the treatment after 1 game. Whaaaaa

    Smoggy

    Posted

    I so want him to do well so I can tell myself to get f......

     

    But it's looking the same as Pio.

     

    Bulut needed to take that Penna in my opinion. As soon as it was given he should have got hold of the ball and not let it go lol Goals create confidence and change mind sets. He could have missed of course, but we will never know.

    WSWJACK

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    Hi Guys, first timer here, used to reading this site thought I would join in at last.

    Earlier in thread there was mention of other goalies out there, chuck one in; Mark Birighetti currently at Swansea but fourth choice, and probably will not be there much longer now that Guidoilin (Udinese link) has been moved on.

    Anybody rate him?, think he is a decent shot stopper and punches out his six yard area well enough.

    Carns

    Posted

    Hi Guys, first timer here, used to reading this site thought I would join in at last.

    Earlier in thread there was mention of other goalies out there, chuck one in; Mark Birighetti currently at Swansea but fourth choice, and probably will not be there much longer now that Guidoilin (Udinese link) has been moved on.

    Anybody rate him?, think he is a decent shot stopper and punches out his six yard area well enough.

    Welcome to the forum, Jack. Birighitti has been suggested by a number of forumites, myself included.

     

    We can hope that he would prefer to be starting than riding the pine in Wales, but the theory is he may not be ready to come back yet (with his tail between his legs). He's already failed once in Italy, might want to stick it out for longer. We live in hope though, he's arguably the best A-league level keeper in his age bracket.

    KGee

    Posted

    Clisby owns that spot now

     

    Just needs to be careful not to get too narrow as he did in the second half on Sunday.  It gave the winger the angle to put the ball in behind him with our DM's failing to track the running midfielder.  But yeah, he's really taken the bull by the horns with his chance.  Good to see.  He certainly leaves nothing in the locker.

     

    Did anyone notice Mitch limping badly right at the end?  Either cramped up or pulled a muscle in injury time.  Hopefully nothing,

    magicwand

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    You are joking about Redmayne's distribution right ? It's woeful and everytime there's a backpass the

    stadium holds it's collective breath anticipating he will stuff up. Anyway forgot about distribution

    I just want a keeper that can catch the ball. Not much to ask really. Over to our famed coaches.

    Our famed goalkeeping coach, Butterfingers Kalac, couldn't catch the ball when he was between the sticks so any hope of a solution coming from that source could be somewhat misplaced!

    the 2006 Croatia game yeh.... man if I were kalac id be shitting my pants too
    Everyone remembers that one but he had many more howlers than that classic. He was particularly hopeless with crosses, even the floaty ones. It seemed the longer the ball was in the air the more jittery he (and we) became.
    Wanderboy

    Posted

     

    Clisby owns that spot now

     

     

    Did anyone notice Mitch limping badly right at the end?  Either cramped up or pulled a muscle in injury time.  Hopefully nothing,

     

     

    It looked as though it was a groin muscle. Hope not. Those injuries can drag on for ages.

    Pup55

    Posted

    I thought Clisby went off with a groin injury?

    Neverbloom

    Posted

    One thing I would like to point out is... How good is Clisby he ran himself to the ground, could of scored a few in the first half and I don't remember him ever playing that good when he was at city.

    welcome to the forum i completely agree , Clisby has really impressed me

    Wanderboy

    Posted

    I thought Clisby went off with a groin injury?

     

    He may have, but I thought I also saw Nicholls holding his groin towards the end of the match.

    beatsurrender

    Posted (edited)

    I can't believe how slow Borda is for a visa centre back. NTS could give him a start and still run him down. Worrying when we seem to be getting caught out by runs in behind as we did against Sydney. Teams like Glory and City will love that lack of pace

     

    That and there are some natural predators going around, Fornaroli, Cahill, Keogh, Bobo, Berisha. We've never really had one of those instinctive finishers... 

     

    I was parked right outside Primo on Carter Street, felt like asking Paul to splash out for a finisher. He probably reckons a finisher is a cold beer to wash down a Wanderdog.

    Edited by beatsurrender
    DontCallMeJacko

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    I thought Clisby went off with a groin injury?

    He may have, but I thought I also saw Nicholls holding his groin towards the end of the match.

    You saw Nicholls holding Clisby's groin?

     

    This team is REALLY close.

    Smoggy

    Posted

     

     

    I thought Clisby went off with a groin injury?

    He may have, but I thought I also saw Nicholls holding his groin towards the end of the match.

    You saw Nicholls holding Clisby's groin?

     

    This team is REALLY close.

     

     

    It was just like this

     

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    Uskana

    Posted

     

    Side note. Isnt andrew hoole just a little ****.

    He thinks after 1 season at Easts he is king ****, no, just no. There is a reason he is back at Newcastle.

    Hamil's fault he is a ribbish back? Not clear enough after FFA Cup and derby? Not for the man who put him there at the end and in those couple of minutes proved again.

    Serious? He came on because Clisby was injured & as a CB did fine at LB. He was a straight swap & did nothing wrong.

    I know Clisby got injured but putting a guy in a position you know will cough goals isn't good enough. Change the formation based on the players you have. Hamil isn't a LB.

     

    I'll have to watch the match again but Hamil was with the ball at half way and no left foot cut inside after dwelling on the ball and played it across the park to a Jets player. I just can't remeber if the went on to be the free kick or not.

     

    But surely, after the amount of goals we are coping of late, you can't be sticking up for this defence.

     

    So easy to blame just the players, but apparently no one else at the club makes mistakes.

    btron3000

    Posted (edited)

    But surely, after the amount of goals we are coping of late, you can't be sticking up for this defence.

     

    So easy to blame just the players, but apparently no one else at the club makes mistakes.

    Yeah it's kind of been overlooked a bit, but we continued to push forward even when holding on to a 2-1 lead with less than 10 minutes to go. I'm surprised riva isn't blowing up about it!

     

    I noticed just after their first goal that we lost the ball and Clisby was well up the park. He had to turn and race back. I said to Luisenrique at the time "why the hell is the left back so far upfield?" 

     

    Then when Jumpei loses the ball and it gets knocked beyond the LB position again, Redmayne thought - incorrectly - that he had to be the sweeper.

     

    I understand we want to promote this passing game and so you need people in decent attacking positions to do it, but there is a time and a place to keep men behind the ball. There is no embarrassment holding on for a win. 

     

    The weird part is, towards the end we weren't really doing anything of note with the ball. So we had guys in bad positions to cover fast transitions from Newcastle, yet we didn't put any pressure on their defence.

    Edited by btron3000
    Guest riva

    Posted

     

    But surely, after the amount of goals we are coping of late, you can't be sticking up for this defence.

     

    So easy to blame just the players, but apparently no one else at the club makes mistakes.

    Yeah it's kind of been overlooked a bit, but we continued to push forward even when holding on to a 2-1 lead with less than 10 minutes to go. I'm surprised riva isn't blowing up about it!

     

    I noticed just after their first goal that we lost the ball and Clisby was well up the park. He had to turn and race back. I said to Luisenrique at the time "why the hell is the left back so far upfield?" 

     

    Then when Jumpei loses the ball and it gets knocked beyond the LB position again, Redmayne thought - incorrectly - that he had to be the sweeper.

     

    I understand we want to promote this passing game and so you need people in decent attacking positions to do it, but there is a time and a place to keep men behind the ball. There is no embarrassment holding on for a win. 

     

    The weird part is, towards the end we weren't really doing anything of note with the ball. So we had guys in bad positions to cover fast transitions from Newcastle, yet we didn't put any pressure on their defence.

     

    I have seen better situational tactical nous from pub teams. Sick and tired of going on about it.



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