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    Andrew Redmayne threw away a win for the Wanderers as he gave away a foul then compounded his error by allowing the tame free kick under his arms to give Newcastle a dramatic equaliser deep into stoppage time.

     

    The Wanderers looked liked they were cruising as far into the game as the 80 minute, only to succumb to a late fightback with the game ending 2 all. The home side, playing their first ever match at the Homebush Showground, took an early lead as Artiz Borda scored the opener in the 23rd minute. After returning from suspension, the central defender rose against Nick Cowburn on the edge of the 6 yard box. Newcastle committed the cardinal sin of not having a man on both posts, and Borda's glancing header skidded off the base of the post and over the line for 1-0.

     

    A silly handball from Ben Kantarovski gave club captain Dimas Delgado the opportunity from the penalty spot, and he sent Jack Duncan the wrong way to double the Wanderers lead going into the break.

     

    Nigel Boogaard, better known for getting sent off instead scored a milestone, as he scored the 20,000th goal in the history of Australian league football. He rose at the back stick, with Redmayne coming out but getting nowhere near the ball, along with the rest of his defence, leaving a gaping open goal that Boogaard couldn't miss from a few yards out.

     

    Redmayne cost his side the win in the 88th minute. Giving away the foul 25 yards out from goal after the keeper charged out of goal only to collect substitute Morten Nordstrand as he tried to round the keeper. Andrew Hoole fired at goal, his chest height shot going around the poorly positioned wall, Redmayne was slow to react, and when he did react he reacted poorly, with awful technique that allowed what should have been a routine block to creep under his hands to see the game finish 2-2.

     

    This match can be added to the ever growing list of games that should have ended with a clean sheet but due to defensive frailty ended without one, and this time it also ended with 2 less points for the Wanderers than it should have. Jerrad Tyson must be given a chance to cement a full time starting position, as Redmayne was the difference for the Jets in this game, adding poor handling technique to his already dubious habit of poor judgement when deciding to charge out of his goal. Steven Lustica was anonymous, and despite a stellar pre-season has done little to show why he would be ahead of Nico Fernandez, Shannon Cole or even one of our younger players.

     

    Western Sydney play next when they take on the Central Coast Mariners on Saturday the 29th of October.


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    JayZko

    Posted

    You know what I'd love if we could get jerrad Tyson playing like he did in our ACL campaign he has the same style as covic, but does the whole sweeper keeper,,

    DeeDee

    Posted

    You know what I'd love if we could get jerrad Tyson playing like he did in our ACL campaign he has the same style as covic, but does the whole sweeper keeper,,

     

    If we give Tyson a go it has to be an extended run. Hes got to be able to loose the rustyness before he comes good. 

    JayZko

    Posted

    We gave him the number 1 so we should of bloodied him from the start

    DeeDee

    Posted

    We gave him the number 1 so we should of bloodied him from the start

     

    I agree. 

    Jukes01

    Posted (edited)

    I kinda hope Tyson starts next week and we lose 4-0 to CCM because of his errors.

    That way people can finally STFU about him getting a chance.

     

    There's obviously a reason he has been no.2 everywhere he's played.

    Everyone thinks that he is so much better because he is a good guy. If he can't knock off Redmayne for the start, then people should think why that is the case.

     

    It's more on the recruitment that we have 2 perennial no.2 GKs. Its going to cost us in the ACL as we're going to leak goals.

     

    Redmayne made mistakes, but for the team to completely dominate for 60 minutes and only be 2-0 up then switch off and do nothing all 2nd half.

    That's more a worry than a couple of GK errors.

    The whole team let us down, not just the GK.

     

    Ref didn't help either. Jets got away with murder yet every little niggly foul WSW committed was a yellow.

    Need to see the replay, but Jumpei got chopped on halfway, waved play on which led to the counter attack and the subsequent equaliser.

    I hope Tyson starts and we get a clean sheet. Why would you wish we cop four goals ffs. I would hope we have faith in both of our keepers but I have no faith in Redmayne at all at the moment. He needs to be accountable for some basic goalkeeping mistakes. A spell on the bench is needed. To me it's not about one is more talented than the other, if that was the case we wouldn't be having this conversation. It's gotten to the point where Tyson deserves his shot because Redmayne has allowed it to happen. For what it's worth Tyson has never let us down either. Maybe he needs to be a cnut in order to get a starting spot. It's clear to me that either Popa and/or Kalac just favour Redmayne for some unknown reason. That was also clear last year when Reddy was the better keeper of the two. I still don't know why Reddy was dropped over Redmayne during the season, one of the great mysteries of the world. Edited by Jukes01
    spectacular291

    Posted

    I kinda hope Tyson starts next week and we lose 4-0 to CCM because of his errors.

    That way people can finally STFU about him getting a chance.

     

    ******* this!!!

     

    The guy hasn't played consistent football since Hong Kong (arguable quality concerns there) and then prior to Hong Kong he last played consistently for Gold Coast United. 

     

    The best thing is to give Redmayne more game time to get his confidence up. 

     

    Tyson lovers, you will eventually see him come ACL time.

    Jukes01

    Posted

     

     

    I kinda hope Tyson starts next week and we lose 4-0 to CCM because of his errors.

    That way people can finally STFU about him getting a chance.

    ******* this!!!

     

    The guy hasn't played consistent football since Hong Kong (arguable quality concerns there) and then prior to Hong Kong he last played consistently for Gold Coast United.

     

    The best thing is to give Redmayne more game time to get his confidence up.

     

    Tyson lovers, you will eventually see him come ACL time.

    It's not about being a Tyson lover. It's about both keepers being able to do a job for us. Right now Redmayne isn't up to it.

    DeeDee

    Posted

    With all due respect to all our goal keepers. Our defence hasn't helped one bit. And that starts from our wingers midfield and the defenders. However Redmayne does have some glaring mistakes in him. No one really knows how Tyson goes. I would however like to see him given a chance.

    Jukes01

    Posted

    With all due respect to all our goal keepers. Our defence hasn't helped one bit. And that starts from our wingers midfield and the defenders. However Redmayne does have some glaring mistakes in him. No one really knows how Tyson goes. I would however like to see him given a chance.

    People seem to forget why Redmayne was no2 at WSW. A certain WSW legend in Ante Covic was standing in the way. Would be nice if we could replace old man Covic with Redmayne right now. Brain fart decision letting him go in hindsight.

    toonarmy

    Posted

    Redmayne - poor , poor poor, but as Dee said, what was happening in front of him didn't help

     

    Neville - after a solid season last year, he is getting worse each week

     

    Borda - better, great goal but gave away too much possession

     

    Cornthwaite - really struggling to get up to speed with the Aleague.

     

    Clisby - can hold his head up high. Hopefully injury doesn't prevent him from playing next week otherwise we have a problem

     

    Dimas - solid, but needed to take control at the 70th and didn't

     

    Bacchus - another good shift, but like dimas when the game changed, we needed more

     

    Jumpei - fantastic - hopefully the end product isn't far away

     

    Lustica - hopefully that was his last game in that position

     

    Mitch - our best most consistent player

     

    Bulut - way off the pace. Poor touches.

     

    Next week I hope we don't take Ccm lightly and play our best 11. That wasn't out best 11 on Sunday

    WestSyd

    Posted

    Just get Janjetovic. Problem solved. He is one of the top 6 keepers in the league, knows our coaches well, and is only a reserve keeper because the club he plays for has someone slightly better in place. He would come with something to prove as well, which is where our consistently best players have come from. Especially ESFC rejects.

    Stokz

    Posted

    Our defense is so slowwwww

     

    Sometimes it looks like they are in slow motion, long balls that never should be won by attackers were quite commonly happening last night

    Jukes01

    Posted (edited)

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    Edited by Jukes01
    WestSyd

    Posted

     

    Just get Janjetovic. Problem solved. He is one of the top 6 keepers in the league, knows our coaches well, and is only a reserve keeper because the club he plays for has someone slightly better in place. He would come with something to prove as well, which is where our consistently best players have come from. Especially ESFC rejects.

    The immediate problem is what do we do right now. At the moment Janjetovic is contracted at ESFC. We have a more than competent goalkeeper in Tyson. I would rather give him a shot before we go out shopping for new keepers. I don't think Janjetovic is any better than Tyson to tell you the truth so what's the point.

     

     

    Janjetovic has proven himself and has experience. I saw Tyson play one game in the ACL and was quite impressed, but he obviously can't make it at any other club and Popa won't give him a go ever, so there must be something about him we don't know. They did drop Redmayne for Reddy last season, so they are prepared to drop keepers. Personally I think Reddy lacks athleticism which costs him a lot of goals.

    Jukes01

    Posted

     

     

     

    Just get Janjetovic. Problem solved. He is one of the top 6 keepers in the league, knows our coaches well, and is only a reserve keeper because the club he plays for has someone slightly better in place. He would come with something to prove as well, which is where our consistently best players have come from. Especially ESFC rejects.

    The immediate problem is what do we do right now. At the moment Janjetovic is contracted at ESFC. We have a more than competent goalkeeper in Tyson. I would rather give him a shot before we go out shopping for new keepers. I don't think Janjetovic is any better than Tyson to tell you the truth so what's the point.

    Janjetovic has proven himself and has experience. I saw Tyson play one game in the ACL and was quite impressed, but he obviously can't make it at any other club and Popa won't give him a go ever, so there must be something about him we don't know. They did drop Redmayne for Reddy last season, so they are prepared to drop keepers. Personally I think Reddy lacks athleticism which costs him a lot of goals.

    Yes but after a few weeks Redmayne retained his spot. I didn't think Reddy made mistakes as the glaring ones Redmayne made this weekend.

     

    You obviously didn't read my post. What do we do right now. We cant just bring in Janjetovic, the transfer window is closed. Plus how do we know Tyson is no good, you need a chance before we can make that judgement. When he has been given a chance he gets clean sheets. I love the logic.

    KGee

    Posted

    If they've got no confidence in Tyson and it's clear Redmayne isn't and never was really a solid No.1 where he blows hot and cold, we should never have re-signed Tyson.  A solid No.1 is needed with a backup which would be Redmayne.  I don't know who that No.1 is though.  Vedran aint that man.  He's just as prone to spills as Redmayne.  

    Tranquilo

    Posted

    did anyone catch in the replay after full time Kalac tellin Bulut to **** off. Looks like bulut was gettin into a heated debated with the jets coach?

    Jukes01

    Posted (edited)

    If they've got no confidence in Tyson and it's clear Redmayne isn't and never was really a solid No.1 where he blows hot and cold, we should never have re-signed Tyson. A solid No.1 is needed with a backup which would be Redmayne. I don't know who that No.1 is though. Vedran aint that man. He's just as prone to spills as Redmayne.

    No if we listen to Popa when discussing the squads he has faith in all the players. All the players signed can do a job otherwise they wouldn't be signed.

     

    I just don't understand why no one thinks Tyson can keep goals. He did a pretty good job at GCU, he was unfortunately behind Covic at WSW, then behind Vukovic at Perth. Two very talented keepers, When he has kept for us he has done a great job and kept a clean sheet in every match he has played for us. Not sure what he has done or hasn't done to deserve this.

    Edited by Jukes01
    Guest riva

    Posted (edited)

    Just get Janjetovic. Problem solved. He is one of the top 6 keepers in the league, knows our coaches well, and is only a reserve keeper because the club he plays for has someone slightly better in place. He would come with something to prove as well, which is where our consistently best players have come from. Especially ESFC rejects.

    ESFC are not going to let him go to us they are not that fking stupid. Plus we are probably too tight

    arse to sign another keeper. Arnold has kept good players and brought in quality players. We piss off

    players and bring in players of lesser quality , shite recruitment. About time the coaching staff were

    made accountable and not just blame Redmayne. Getting sick of excuses and especially lack of success in big games

    and derbies.

    Edited by riva
    KGee

    Posted

     

    If they've got no confidence in Tyson and it's clear Redmayne isn't and never was really a solid No.1 where he blows hot and cold, we should never have re-signed Tyson. A solid No.1 is needed with a backup which would be Redmayne. I don't know who that No.1 is though. Vedran aint that man. He's just as prone to spills as Redmayne.

    No if we listen to Popa when discussing the squads he has faith in all the players. All the players signed can do a job otherwise they wouldn't be signed.

     

    I just don't understand why no one thinks Tyson can keep goals. He did a pretty good job at GCU, he was unfortunately behind Covic at WSW, then behind Vukovic at Perth. Two very talented keepers, When he has kept for us he has done a great job and kept a clean sheet in every match he has played for us. Not sure what he has done or hasn't done to deserve this.

     

     

    I'm not saying he can't.  Well aware of his record between the sticks for us and didn't see anything untoward when he did keep.  But it's been a long time and you wonder if he's just not showing anything in training to usurp Redmayne.  No idea.  Maybe Taurus can give us an insight once he's finally finished insulting NTS.

    WestSyd

    Posted

     

     

     

    Just get Janjetovic. Problem solved. He is one of the top 6 keepers in the league, knows our coaches well, and is only a reserve keeper because the club he plays for has someone slightly better in place. He would come with something to prove as well, which is where our consistently best players have come from. Especially ESFC rejects.

    The immediate problem is what do we do right now. At the moment Janjetovic is contracted at ESFC. We have a more than competent goalkeeper in Tyson. I would rather give him a shot before we go out shopping for new keepers. I don't think Janjetovic is any better than Tyson to tell you the truth so what's the point.

    Janjetovic has proven himself and has experience. I saw Tyson play one game in the ACL and was quite impressed, but he obviously can't make it at any other club and Popa won't give him a go ever, so there must be something about him we don't know. They did drop Redmayne for Reddy last season, so they are prepared to drop keepers. Personally I think Reddy lacks athleticism which costs him a lot of goals.

    Yes but after a few weeks Redmayne retained his spot. I didn't think Reddy made mistakes as the glaring ones Redmayne made this weekend.

     

    You obviously didn't read my post. What do we do right now. We cant just bring in Janjetovic, the transfer window is closed. Plus how do we know Tyson is no good, you need a chance before we can make that judgement. When he has been given a chance he gets clean sheets. I love the logic.

     

     

     

     

     

    Just get Janjetovic. Problem solved. He is one of the top 6 keepers in the league, knows our coaches well, and is only a reserve keeper because the club he plays for has someone slightly better in place. He would come with something to prove as well, which is where our consistently best players have come from. Especially ESFC rejects.

    The immediate problem is what do we do right now. At the moment Janjetovic is contracted at ESFC. We have a more than competent goalkeeper in Tyson. I would rather give him a shot before we go out shopping for new keepers. I don't think Janjetovic is any better than Tyson to tell you the truth so what's the point.

    Janjetovic has proven himself and has experience. I saw Tyson play one game in the ACL and was quite impressed, but he obviously can't make it at any other club and Popa won't give him a go ever, so there must be something about him we don't know. They did drop Redmayne for Reddy last season, so they are prepared to drop keepers. Personally I think Reddy lacks athleticism which costs him a lot of goals.

    Yes but after a few weeks Redmayne retained his spot. I didn't think Reddy made mistakes as the glaring ones Redmayne made this weekend.

     

    You obviously didn't read my post. What do we do right now. We cant just bring in Janjetovic, the transfer window is closed. Plus how do we know Tyson is no good, you need a chance before we can make that judgement. When he has been given a chance he gets clean sheets. I love the logic.

     

     

    Reddy was slow in his movement. I saw that, and I think both Popa and Kalac saw that. Redmayne is much better in this area and is generally a better shot stopper, but diabolical in other areas. So they put Redmayne back in because he was the lesser risk. They figured that they could afford to hope we didn't have to put with too many set pieces and we would be ok.

     

    In terms of a keeper now I would give Tyson a chance if there is no other option. But you run the risk of discovering he is not that good and end up just bringing Redmayne back. I am talking about Janjetovic as a long term plan hopefully when the next transfer window opens. He will get out of his contract however he can. He doesn't want to sit on the bench all season. What a waste.

    wanderersfanatic

    Posted

    Well, we still have a roster spot since NTS is gone.

     

    What position should we get?

     

    A proper LB?

     

    A proper LW?

     

    Or a proven keeper?

    Jukes01

    Posted (edited)

     

     

     

    If they've got no confidence in Tyson and it's clear Redmayne isn't and never was really a solid No.1 where he blows hot and cold, we should never have re-signed Tyson. A solid No.1 is needed with a backup which would be Redmayne. I don't know who that No.1 is though. Vedran aint that man. He's just as prone to spills as Redmayne.

    No if we listen to Popa when discussing the squads he has faith in all the players. All the players signed can do a job otherwise they wouldn't be signed.

     

    I just don't understand why no one thinks Tyson can keep goals. He did a pretty good job at GCU, he was unfortunately behind Covic at WSW, then behind Vukovic at Perth. Two very talented keepers, When he has kept for us he has done a great job and kept a clean sheet in every match he has played for us. Not sure what he has done or hasn't done to deserve this.

    I'm not saying he can't. Well aware of his record between the sticks for us and didn't see anything untoward when he did keep. But it's been a long time and you wonder if he's just not showing anything in training to usurp Redmayne. No idea. Maybe Taurus can give us an insight once he's finally finished insulting NTS.
    Redmayne maybe the superstar in training but he sure as sh*t isn't showing it where it counts. On game day. Edited by Jukes01
    WestSyd

    Posted

    Well, we still have a roster spot since NTS is gone.

     

    What position should we get?

     

    A proper LB?

     

    A proper LW?

     

    Or a proven keeper?

     

    We have a "proper" LB who is doing a decent job of replacing Jamieson.

     

    Don't know if we need LW as all of our forwards are interchangeable, and the 4231 system isn't necessarily a true LW spot. Bridgey was playing there for many years. He is no LW. Just need someone who can combine with Mitch.

     

    Striker or keeper are probably our weaknesses (if you consider Santa as a sub).

    Jukes01

    Posted

     

     

     

     

     

    Just get Janjetovic. Problem solved. He is one of the top 6 keepers in the league, knows our coaches well, and is only a reserve keeper because the club he plays for has someone slightly better in place. He would come with something to prove as well, which is where our consistently best players have come from. Especially ESFC rejects.

    The immediate problem is what do we do right now. At the moment Janjetovic is contracted at ESFC. We have a more than competent goalkeeper in Tyson. I would rather give him a shot before we go out shopping for new keepers. I don't think Janjetovic is any better than Tyson to tell you the truth so what's the point.
    Janjetovic has proven himself and has experience. I saw Tyson play one game in the ACL and was quite impressed, but he obviously can't make it at any other club and Popa won't give him a go ever, so there must be something about him we don't know. They did drop Redmayne for Reddy last season, so they are prepared to drop keepers. Personally I think Reddy lacks athleticism which costs him a lot of goals.
    Yes but after a few weeks Redmayne retained his spot. I didn't think Reddy made mistakes as the glaring ones Redmayne made this weekend.

     

    You obviously didn't read my post. What do we do right now. We cant just bring in Janjetovic, the transfer window is closed. Plus how do we know Tyson is no good, you need a chance before we can make that judgement. When he has been given a chance he gets clean sheets. I love the logic.

     

     

     

    Just get Janjetovic. Problem solved. He is one of the top 6 keepers in the league, knows our coaches well, and is only a reserve keeper because the club he plays for has someone slightly better in place. He would come with something to prove as well, which is where our consistently best players have come from. Especially ESFC rejects.

    The immediate problem is what do we do right now. At the moment Janjetovic is contracted at ESFC. We have a more than competent goalkeeper in Tyson. I would rather give him a shot before we go out shopping for new keepers. I don't think Janjetovic is any better than Tyson to tell you the truth so what's the point.
    Janjetovic has proven himself and has experience. I saw Tyson play one game in the ACL and was quite impressed, but he obviously can't make it at any other club and Popa won't give him a go ever, so there must be something about him we don't know. They did drop Redmayne for Reddy last season, so they are prepared to drop keepers. Personally I think Reddy lacks athleticism which costs him a lot of goals.
    Yes but after a few weeks Redmayne retained his spot. I didn't think Reddy made mistakes as the glaring ones Redmayne made this weekend.

     

    You obviously didn't read my post. What do we do right now. We cant just bring in Janjetovic, the transfer window is closed. Plus how do we know Tyson is no good, you need a chance before we can make that judgement. When he has been given a chance he gets clean sheets. I love the logic.

     

    In terms of a keeper now I would give Tyson a chance if there is no other option. But you run the risk of discovering he is not that good and end up just bringing Redmayne back. I am talking about Janjetovic as a long term plan hopefully when the next transfer window opens. He will get out of his contract however he can. He doesn't want to sit on the bench all season. What a waste.

    That's fair enough. I just think Tyson deserves his shot. At some point Redmayne has to be accountable as do all the players. If the same basic errors continue for any player, they get dropped. We have seen this before from Redmayne and we can't just let it continue.

     

    If Redmayne starts against the Mariners and the same mistakes happen or he has another shaky effort in goal. What then?

    toonarmy

    Posted

    The new position will be used to get a striker - and he has to be aussie ... Unless we can pay out pinatares (who looks like he won't play again unless we have a horrendous run of injuries)

    HillsPanther

    Posted

    It was a concern that there was a drop in the intensity in the last quarter of the game. However, of more concern was that the intensity did not lift after they conceded the first goal. Surely the alarm bells should have been ringing.

    Jukes01

    Posted

    It was a concern that there was a drop in the intensity in the last quarter of the game. However, of more concern was that the intensity did not lift after they conceded the first goal. Surely the alarm bells should have been ringing.

    We play our matches at high intensity and it's very difficult to maintain that intensity for 90 minutes. We need to manage that a little better than we do.

    btron3000

    Posted

     

    It was a concern that there was a drop in the intensity in the last quarter of the game. However, of more concern was that the intensity did not lift after they conceded the first goal. Surely the alarm bells should have been ringing.

    We play our matches at high intensity and it's very difficult to maintain that intensity for 90 minutes. We need to manage that a little better than we do.

     

    Well Popa has quite often subbed one of the two midfielders. He seems reluctant to give Pinatares any responsibility. Concerning.

    Sithslayer1991

    Posted

     

     

    It was a concern that there was a drop in the intensity in the last quarter of the game. However, of more concern was that the intensity did not lift after they conceded the first goal. Surely the alarm bells should have been ringing.

    We play our matches at high intensity and it's very difficult to maintain that intensity for 90 minutes. We need to manage that a little better than we do.

     

    Well Popa has quite often subbed one of the two midfielders. He seems reluctant to give Pinatares any responsibility. Concerning.

     

     

    The team looked really content in the second half at 2-0 and really Newcastle wasn't offering until Nordstrand came on.

     

    There were some warning signs from Newcastle where they either targeted Neville or went long straight through the centre of our defence. I think our lack of pace in the middle of defence without Aspro is worrying, Cornflakes seems to be a bit off the pace and I think that's what lead to the second goal. There is no reason Redmayne should be where he was for the foul that led to the freekick unless he didn't think his defence could stop the Jets player.

     

    Pinatares not comming on is a bit of a worry but I think its more our back 4 not being fit, the last two games our defenders looked to the bench to get subbed for injuries (Cornthwaite and Clisby). As much as I hate to say it Redmayne needs another game with this defence it just seemed like they still need time to gel. Positive is that we still have a better start than we did last season but I think were going to struggle to get top 4 if defence is not clicking

     




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