Redmayne Hands Jets Point

Bulut needs to stay central. Our wings already get clogged by fullback, winger and midfielders.

Agree 100%. In the first half there were 3-4 WSW players running into the corner on the right hand side every time we broke

He is going wide due to the lack of service.

If you expect the rest of the team to put it on a plate for him, rather than him make the right runs and lose his marker, then you might as well put me as the striker. I'll play for peanuts.

I think Redmayne's time is up with the club at the end of this season.

The unfortunate thing is there's not much Australian goalkeepers out there that could replace Redmayne's spot next year and I really don't think the club would give up a visa spot for a foreign goalkeeper (unless we were really under the pressure).


 

thats a real nostradamus prediction there.

 

90% of our squad will likely  be gone next season.

I know Clisby got injured but putting a guy in a position you know will cough goals isn't good enough. Change the formation based on the players you have. Hamil isn't a LB.

I'll have to watch the match again but Hamil was with the ball at half way and no left foot cut inside after dwelling on the ball and played it across the park to a Jets player. I just can't remeber if the went on to be the free kick or not.

But surely, after the amount of goals we are coping of late, you can't be sticking up for this defence.

So easy to blame just the players, but apparently no one else at the club makes mistakes.

It all happened too late, trying to change your formation that late in the game is a waste. Plus, we have rarely changed from our current formation from day dot, so don't see it changing now.

 

No Hamil wasn't on the field then, came on after free kick but before the goal.

 

Sticking up for the defence? I just said that to blame Redmayne is quite easy & explained myself. Happy with the goals we have conceded thus far? **** no! But popa out, terminate players & fold club? No. I'm sure the coaching staff will look back to see how they could have done things differently such as make changes earlier or be more clinical in second half or maybe change things going back to preseason (get back 4 playing together earlier, get players up to speed quicker, fitness).

 

For now I'm concerned about our back 5 which seems to be a combination of fitness (or lack of) & confidence. We are ahead of where we were last season but I felt last season our issue was our attack, where were the goals going to come from? This year, I feel the issue will be how quick can we settle our back 5, get our confidence back & restore the solidity of our defence.

 

Bulut needs to stay central. Our wings already get clogged by fullback, winger and midfielders.

Agree 100%. In the first half there were 3-4 WSW players running into the corner on the right hand side every time we broke

The guy is just hungry, he isn't getting service in the middle so going out wide to get it. Just remember too, centrally he will have either a CB or CDM on him where going wider allows him more space but not in the areas we want him to be. Shame he doesn't like to play with his back to goal more, he certainly has the strength for it!  

 

One thing I would like to point out is... How good is Clisby he ran himself to the ground, could of scored a few in the first half and I don't remember him ever playing that good when he was at city.

 

welcome to the forum i completely agree , Clisby has really impressed me

The only thing I'd say is that he probably wasn't up to speed as soon as we would have liked. Ran himself into the ground at 75 minutes & still had another 15 to go

No one is asking to fold the club or terminate players. Redmayne needs to be dropped for making basic goalkeeping errors. Is our back line stable, no. Is Redmayne under more pressure than usual, yes. Is Redmayne to blame for not being able to punch the ball clear, for charging out, not being able to set a wall, having fumble fingers. Yes, yes, yes and yes.

No one is asking to fold the club or terminate players. Redmayne needs to be dropped for making basic goalkeeping errors. Is our back line stable, no. Is Redmayne under more pressure than usual, yes. Is Redmayne to blame for not being able to punch the ball clear, for charging out, not being able to set a wall, having fumble fingers. Yes, yes, yes and yes.

If we were in a situation where we could bring in our number 2 keeper into the starting lineup, I think you'll find that he would have been dropped a long time ago.

 

For some time now it appears that Tyson doesn't quite have the trust of the coaching staff to move into the number 1 position. It also appears that many others have come to this conclusion on this forum too. Dropping Redmayne will just further hurt his confidence which is at an all time low & I'm unsure what the next step is? Terminate Tyson's contract & sign a new keeper with the cap space freed up in January? The one thing that appears is that the club are giving Redmayne every opportunity to prove himself, maybe he will be let go in January to let a first team keeper in.

 

No one is asking to fold the club or terminate players. Redmayne needs to be dropped for making basic goalkeeping errors. Is our back line stable, no. Is Redmayne under more pressure than usual, yes. Is Redmayne to blame for not being able to punch the ball clear, for charging out, not being able to set a wall, having fumble fingers. Yes, yes, yes and yes.

If we were in a situation where we could bring in our number 2 keeper into the starting lineup, I think you'll find that he would have been dropped a long time ago.

 

For some time now it appears that Tyson doesn't quite have the trust of the coaching staff to move into the number 1 position. It also appears that many others have come to this conclusion on this forum too. Dropping Redmayne will just further hurt his confidence which is at an all time low & I'm unsure what the next step is? Terminate Tyson's contract & sign a new keeper with the cap space freed up in January? The one thing that appears is that the club are giving Redmayne every opportunity to prove himself, maybe he will be let go in January to let a first team keeper in.

If this is the case (and it probably is) then bringing him back makes no sense at all

Remember the days when we were fawning over Reddy?

 

There are very few all-round good keepers in/from Australia. We have very good shot stoppers for sure, but when it comes to other aspects of goalkeeping such as awareness/distribution/controlling the ball at the feet we as a nation fall short. Pretty much any game you watch in the A-League and you'll see goalkeepers smashing the ball out from a goalkick, or taking a risky touch from a passback or just giving away possession in a silly way. If we want to improve on Redmayne it will have to be through a foreigner.

Tyson's cap space would be minimal. We also have a marquee spot left.

Yeah i dont get the point of the Tyson signing if no one had belief that he could actually play.

 

Might as well than just use the spot for a youth player and give them the development/ 

I can't understand at all the reasoning for letting Reddy go. Sure he wasn't perfect but was generally

a reliable experienced goalkeeper who could marshal a defence , set up a wall and I can't recall him

making catastrophic errors and there was not much better available to sign. He would do me as a keeper with Redmayne as a backup.

 

Redmayne is a good guy who I am sure loves the club and is giving 100% and he has shown bravery on

a number of occasions( against Guardiola for example in the Adelaide game) but......

 

Just another example of recurring problems we have with recruiting and keeping good players.

If the coaching staff don't have trust in Tyson, WHY did they sign him again? So, the coaching department is incompetent in the GK department?

 

I'm not saying sack players, fold the club. Clearly sacking players doesn't win you titles. But, surely the unthinkable can be said, Popovic is making more mistakes and the worrying thing is, repeating them. You get rid of a keeper you don't think is good enough and tgen sign him again and won't give him a run when your first choice is flapping week in week out? Come on, there is a point stop nlaming the players, it is the guy sending the team out.

 

I'm not saying sack him, but he f$÷$#d up.

Tonadd to that... you don't chop and change your keeper.

 

1st it was merry go round with Redmayne and Bouzanis, then a merry go round with Redmayne and Reddy. Now we have Tyson back. Plenty confidence in Redmayne who plays like a keeper on thin ice, it is the environment.

 

When you have a flapping goalkeeper your whole defence loses confidence. And you get the drift.

 

Shouldn't be a shock when we had stability in the sticks, best defence in the league, clean sheets and never coped more than 2 in a game. Now, how many games have we coped more than 2? Lost count.

Bouzanis was supposed to be the heir apparent. But from all reports, his attitude was rubbish.

Was Bouzanis playing for City last week when AK scored his hat trick?

Was Bouzanis playing for City last week when AK scored his hat trick?

Yeah

I can't understand at all the reasoning for letting Reddy go. Sure he wasn't perfect but was generally a reliable experienced goalkeeper who could marshal a defence , set up a wall and I can't recall him making catastrophic errors and there was not much better available to sign. He would do me as a keeper with Redmayne as a backup.

I think Reddy would've wanted out with the offer of guaranteed game time at Glory. Probably offered more money too (why else would he go across the country away from his wife and kids).

 

 

Was Bouzanis playing for City last week when AK scored his hat trick?

Yeah

And he still got picked for the FFA cup days later. Either Sorenson has lost it, or he's been impressing in training.

Bouzanis was supposed to be the heir apparent. But from all reports, his attitude was rubbish.

His attitude might have been rubbish but the biggest issue was that he was never consistent. He'd pull off a fantastic save but fluff a simple chance. Take the game last week against Perth, one play he pulls off a really great save low down to his left, fantastic save. From the resulting corner he concedes a goal that was traveling right at him. He has the right ingredients but can't seem to put it all together.

 

I also have a feeling that there was a disconnect between the Ron Corry tenure & Spider tenure as to his abilities.

If the coaching staff don't have trust in Tyson, WHY did they sign him again? So, the coaching department is incompetent in the GK department?..

They signed him to be a number 2, not to be a long term number 1. He was signed with the view of bringing in a player that would take up minimum wages & allow us to strengthen in other areas. Key especially with ACL on the horizon.

 

Bouzanis was supposed to be the heir apparent. But from all reports, his attitude was rubbish.

His attitude might have been rubbish but the biggest issue was that he was never consistent. He'd pull off a fantastic save but fluff a simple chance. Take the game last week against Perth, one play he pulls off a really great save low down to his left, fantastic save. From the resulting corner he concedes a goal that was traveling right at him. He has the right ingredients but can't seem to put it all together.

 

I also have a feeling that there was a disconnect between the Ron Corry tenure & Spider tenure as to his abilities.

If the coaching staff don't have trust in Tyson, WHY did they sign him again? So, the coaching department is incompetent in the GK department?..

They signed him to be a number 2, not to be a long term number 1. He was signed with the view of bringing in a player that would take up minimum wages & allow us to strengthen in other areas. Key especially with ACL on the horizon.

 

.......so how's that working for us now? Forget about the bloody ACL we have no chance of winning

that we should just be concentrating on the A-league , starting with CCM.

I think we can win the ACL again.

I think we can win the ACL again.

.........with this team ! Everybody wants to be a comedian.

.......so how's that working for us now? Forget about the bloody ACL we have no chance of winning

that we should just be concentrating on the A-league , starting with CCM.

Forget about ACL? Popa has recruited with ACL in mind & is going in with the same attitude we took in S1/2.

 

Wait aren't you the bloke that wants to win every trophy?

 

.......so how's that working for us now? Forget about the bloody ACL we have no chance of winning

that we should just be concentrating on the A-league , starting with CCM.

Forget about ACL? Popa has recruited with ACL in mind & is going in with the same attitude we took in S1/2.

 

Wait aren't you the bloke that wants to win every trophy?

 

........I was but you bastards have hounded me out of it by telling me coming second is not failure ,

success has many fathers etc. , success is not measured by trophies etc. pox is more important than

results and on and on. Oh and you will get good odds about winning the ACL , how much are you putting on ?

I'm not saying sack players, fold the club. Clearly sacking players doesn't win you titles. But, surely the unthinkable can be said, Popovic is making more mistakes and the worrying thing is, repeating them. You get rid of a keeper you don't think is good enough and tgen sign him again and won't give him a run when your first choice is flapping week in week out? Come on, there is a point stop nlaming the players, it is the guy sending the team out.

We let go of Tyson because we brought in Bouzanis, why? He was supposed to be the keeper who we'd bring through when Covic retires as the clubs number 1 & have this young kid with plenty of promise come in to take over the reins.

I'm not saying sack him, but he f$÷$#d up.

Tonadd to that... you don't chop and change your keeper.

Bouzanis was lauded in his youth as one of the best goal keepers around & we wanted him to come to WSW to fulfill his potential. Bouzanis was a future number 1 but had to prove himself, Tyson I don't think has been considered a number 1. We had a plan in place, makes perfect sense no?

1st it was merry go round with Redmayne and Bouzanis, then a merry go round with Redmayne and Reddy. Now we have Tyson back. Plenty confidence in Redmayne who plays like a keeper on thin ice, it is the environment.

 

When you have a flapping goalkeeper your whole defence loses confidence. And you get the drift.

 

Shouldn't be a shock when we had stability in the sticks, best defence in the league, clean sheets and never coped more than 2 in a game. Now, how many games have we coped more than 2? Lost count.

I would love to explain the goal keeping situation again but if you go through the past few months it has been discussed over & over again. Put simply, we signed two number 2's hoping that one would step up.

If you look individually at the players in the squad that won the ACL (in particular the final) you had players like, Mullen, Golec, Appiah even Saba and it still managed to do the job.  Granted the team that got us to the knock out stages had Polenz, Ono and Hersi etc and we had guys like Juric etc

 

I guess what I'm saying if this side can play together as a team, then it's possible for us to do well in the ACL again.

 

That said need to see a lot of improvement between now and start of ACL, we could also do with a decent player or two to come in Jan.

 

Also the ACL winning team had the best goalkeeper (or at least the one in the form) in Asia

 

I'm not writing us off yet for either ACL or A League. Early days

 

 

 

I think we can win the ACL again.

.........with this team ! Everybody wants to be a comedian.

We won in 2014 with Appiah Kubi, Haliti, Golec, Mullen etc in the starting line up.

 

You're just a salty troll lol

 

.......so how's that working for us now? Forget about the bloody ACL we have no chance of winning

that we should just be concentrating on the A-league , starting with CCM.

Forget about ACL? Popa has recruited with ACL in mind & is going in with the same attitude we took in S1/2.

Wait aren't you the bloke that wants to win every trophy?

I can't wait for ACL mid week games again, missed them. That last 16 10,000 game at Parra was one of the best nights ever. Popa will be going in to win it again and why not. Edited October 26, 2016 by WSWBoro

I think how we won the ACL is a great mystery, but I will take it. But I remember the games were played at a much slower pace which suited the likes of Golec, Mullen, Hamill, Saba etc. When those guys came back to the A-league in season 3, they were carved up as the pace of the games was at a different level. Popa does make strange decisions with recruitment, but who knows why he does some things.

 

Tyson is a wierd one, as is Bulut for me. The keeper and striker we needed too get right, yet we pick two guys who have never proved themselves anywhere. But hey, I am sure they were a popular choice with the supporters.

it's not really a mystery once you understand the away goal rule

I think how we won the ACL is a great mystery, but I will take it. But I remember the games were played at a much slower pace which suited the likes of Golec, Mullen, Hamill, Saba etc. When those guys came back to the A-league in season 3, they were carved up as the pace of the games was at a different level. Popa does make strange decisions with recruitment, but who knows why he does some things.

Tyson is a wierd one, as is Bulut for me. The keeper and striker we needed too get right, yet we pick two guys who have never proved themselves anywhere. But hey, I am sure they were a popular choice with the supporters.