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    The Western Sydney Wanderers kicked off their 2024/25 A-League campaign in a massive, sold out Sydney Derby clash in Parramatta tonight, the visitors taking all three points with a 2-1 win, the Wanderers showing little improvement over the team that finished in 7th place last season.

    The biggest news in the lead up was national team goalkeeper Lawrence Thomas being ruled out through injury thus giving an A-League debut to 21 year old Tristan Vidackovic. There was also an A-League debut for Taewook Jeong. Off the bench there were potential A-League debuts for Dean Pelekanos and marquee attacking midfield maestro Juan Mata, with club debuts in the offing for Jordan Holmes and Ben Holliday.

    Sydney FC had the opening chance of the game as they worked the ball into the penalty area, with Joe Lolley getting on the end of a blocked shot, firing it the wrong side of the near post as he slipped on the wet turf. 9 minutes in and Zac Sapsford went down after being involved in a friendly fire head clash with Gabriel Cleur.

    Alexandar Popovic rescued SFC from going behind in the 15th minute, Sapsford crossed to the far post for Cleur and he reached out to loop the ball to the back stick where Hammond turned it past the SFC keeper but not strongly enough to score.

    Minutes later and Sydney FC were in front. Vidackovic made a horrible pass out of the 6 yard box, giving it away to Rhyan Grant, his midfield header found Patryk Klimala unmarked, one intelligent header to the side gave Lolley space, Jack Clisby in racing back lost his footing and it was all the room Lolley needed to fire in the strike to the far post giving Vidackovic no hope to atone for his erroneous distribution.

    The game flared into even more life with a pair of horrendous challenges from Sydney FC players. Klimala went into the book first and he was followed by Popovic after a wild lunge from behind into Sapsford. A melee ensued and the end result was an additional card this time for Nicolas Milanovic for joining in the fracas. Brandon Borrello continued his poor early season form by shouldering a free header on the 6 yard box that was a glorious set piece chance from a corner. Cleur was booked as well for another side lunge that stopped a promising attack. Grant also picked up a booking for his cynical foul on Hammond after he beat Cena and had Grant done for pace.

    Anas Ouahim had the opportunity to double the lead after a flowing sequence where the Wanderers couldn't get a touch on the ball for several dozen passes in a row, with SFC pasing around them at all, Anthony Caceres ran into open space on the edge of the area, touched on to Ouahim but his shot went very wide with scrambling defenders jumping in to attempt to block it.

    With seconds left in the half it seemed certain the Wanderers would equalise. Breaking out of their defensive zone, Milanovic lofted a ball over the top for Borrello who managed to get it into the mixer, then instead of settling for a corner after an initial clearance he kept the game going, found Hammond on his own, 8 yards out with 80% of the goal to aim for but Hammond scooped it well over the bar in a contender for the eventual worst miss of the season.

    Sapsford was withdrawn after half-time, replaced by Bozhidar Kraev for his A-League debut. With Alen Stajcic in the middle of preparing the introduction of Mata, his team finally pulled off a series of passes in attack that allowed Hammond to make up for his first half miss. Sydney FC tried playing out from the back instead of clearing their lines, Costa with his back to goal failed to find a team-mate with his flick pass, instead sparking a counter for the home side. Joshua Brillante dove in to knock the ball to Kraev, he played a 1-2 pass with Milanovic, on the return he delayed long enough to open space for Borrello. Borrello was cut down by Grant for what would have been a penalty had the ball not rolled into the path of Hammond who finished unerringly at the second time of asking to make it 1-1.

    Mata arrived in the 61st minute with the goalscorer Hammond coming off. His first introduction to the A-League was instantly conceded from a set piece. Playing a free kick short, Costa cut back onto his left, Mata hadn't closed down quickly enough for his lunging block to make contact, and from there it was a simple flick-on at the near post from central defender Hayden Matthews followed by Klimala stooping to conquer with a flick of his own to beat Vidackovic and leave the Wanderers and Juan Mata stunned. Klimala was robbed of another and SFC's third by a wonderful reaction save from Vidackovic, diving to his right. Pelekanos made his debut with the cramp stricken Cleur making way.

    Stajcic threw on his final subs with Marcus Antonsson and Holliday making his debut, Scicluna and Borrello making way. With 4 minutes to play Sydney FC's dirty challenges were finally punished with the ultimate sanction, Max Burgess doing a Ruben Zadkovic and being sent off mere minutes after coming on for a stomping lunge. Alex King had no hestiation to pull out the red card to setup a grandstand derby finish. Andrew Redmayne became the 8th player in Alex King's notebook, his timewasting finally being punished in the 2nd minute of stoppage time.

    Milanovic had been all but invisible all evening, he popped up in the 95th minute on the end of a cross that beat Grant but the contact was weak and the ball was snaffled by Redmayne. The dying seconds saw a pair of corners that even the Wanderers debutante keeper went up for, but it was to no avail as Sydney FC held on, claimed the 3 points and derby bragging rights and put the Stajcic era off on the wrong foot. It was a deserved loss for the home side, who managed just three shots on target, looked devoid of creativity for much of the game and had trouble maintaining defensive shape in the midfield & backline.

    The Wanderers next match is against Western United at the Wyndham Regional facility on Sunday the 27th of October with kick-off at 4pm Sydney time.


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    immortalshogun

    Posted

    The negativity is crazy lol, its literally round one vs a team that has been playing competitive football for a month..

    Can we improve? yeah of course but reading some comments here and on socials, you’d think someones getting executed 

    WSWJACK

    Posted

    Defence, the back 4 and keeper, sitting up above the RBB last night, was just waiting on the mistake that somehow didn't happen, referring to the playing in and around the box at goal kicks, you could argue they did not score but by christ it was not nice to watch as a home fan.

    You could see the FC front line on starting blocks waiting for keeper to tap it sideways and rushing in to pressure, not good to watch for me.

    Legionista

    Posted

    1 minute ago, immortalshogun said:

    The negativity is crazy lol, its literally round one vs a team that has been playing competitive football for a month..

    Can we improve? yeah of course but reading some comments here and on socials, you’d think someones getting executed 

    Well no. The fixture list was no secret. There was a clear goal to be prepared for a battle round 1 for the derby. We weren’t. 

    PedroPony

    Posted

    17 minutes ago, immortalshogun said:

    The negativity is crazy lol, its literally round one vs a team that has been playing competitive football for a month..

    Can we improve? yeah of course but reading some comments here and on socials, you’d think someones getting executed 

    Yep. There are things to critique, but to write off Staj and the season at this stage is a bit much.

    immortalshogun

    Posted

    21 minutes ago, Legionista said:

    Well no. The fixture list was no secret. There was a clear goal to be prepared for a battle round 1 for the derby. We weren’t. 

    Right so i suppose the season is over then? Yeah alright I get we weren’t prepared for the game vs a team that clearly was, but to have some comments suggesting that the season is over based on a performance in round one is a bit much from some people. 

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    27 minutes ago, Legionista said:

    Well no. The fixture list was no secret. There was a clear goal to be prepared for a battle round 1 for the derby. We weren’t. 

    For once I totally agree with you.

    Once again we start a season with a big crowd and roll over 

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    38 minutes ago, 102megan said:

    :nono: :nono:
     

    Mate, be serious for a moment. 😅

    Yes you are right. At least this one seems like a nice enough guy.

    But he's another Gumby

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, immortalshogun said:

    Right so i suppose the season is over then? Yeah alright I get we weren’t prepared for the game vs a team that clearly was, but to have some comments suggesting that the season is over based on a performance in round one is a bit much from some people. 

    It's far from season over but..

    We have a big problem in defence that we have had all off season to address and we have a massive hole where a midfield should be. 

    What's more frustrating and depressing it isn't just how we performed in round 1, the game basically summer up our last few years.

    - stupid goal conceded check 

    - slow build up play check 

    - getting out fought by Shelbyville check 

    - Brilantte killing every attack stone dead 

    - a left back that can't cross, pass or defend

    - delusional press conference 

     

    mack

    Posted

    18 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    Yes you are right. At least this one seems like a nice enough guy.

    But he's another Gumby

    Gumby had a plan.

    Stajcic has nothing.

    PedroPony

    Posted

    38 minutes ago, mack said:

    Gumby had a plan.

    Stajcic has nothing.

    Let's just write off this season now then. There are only 26 games left. See you all back here in a year's time.

    Davo

    Posted

    4 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

    it's now obvious why the Korean dudes club let him go out on loan (he's Borda levels of bad).

    Does the predictions thread have a Bad Take of The Year Award because I think I’ve found my nominee.

    SNS100

    Posted

    59 minutes ago, immortalshogun said:

    Right so i suppose the season is over then?

    I'm in "the season is over" corner. 

    We'll win a game or two. Mata might have a flash of brilliance here or there. 

    With this current squad, we aren't making the 6. 

    Few seasons ago we had Layouni, Schneiderlin, Ninko, Mrčela, Marcelo, Yengi, Amaltifano, Nieuwenhof and a firing Borello... yet we chocked in the semi vs FC. 

    Only players that I liked from last night's performance were Hammond, Holliday and young Vidackovic. 

    Stajcic won the spoon last year with Perth. Mitigating circumstances aside, but which other club in the league would've been dumb enough to acquire his services???

    Season was gone for me when we let Younis go. Only player that I wanted to see in the starting 11 on game days. Loving watching what he is doing at PSVs second team. 

    I applaud every fan for staying positive, but the GF in Adelaide was a very long time ago for me, and I don't see us making the big dance any time soon. 

    Hope I'm wrong. 

    pseudonym

    Posted

    9 minutes ago, PedroPony said:

    Let's just write off this season now then. There are only 26 games left. See you all back here in a year's time.

    Pretty much - it's less stressful that way

    Sithslayer1991

    Posted

    Actually I am wandering how Graham Arnold won a championship with Brilliante in the midfield.

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Sithslayer1991 said:

    Actually I am wandering how Graham Arnold won a championship with Brilliante in the midfield.

    It was a few years ago, at 31 he ain't the player he was at about 26

    VedranRozic

    Posted

    Sick of the negativity? Well I am sick of starting a season being hopeful and waiting for the inevitable kick in the nuts.

    And if you see the makings of a competitive side in this mess than you are watching another team. 
     

    Our recruiting has not improved us anywhere on the park (and that includes Mata who is gonna be a 20-30 minute impact player at best - and wait for the injuries to start). In many areas we have gone backwards. Our youth players either can’t step up or if they can they soon leave. We have a mid-table coach. 
     

    And the worst part of this is that all this failure over how many seasons is not because we don’t have resources. It’s because we have made bad decisions and pissed millions up against the wall.

    So don’t give me the ‘don’t be negative’ line. They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result. I say the definition of insanity is being a Wanderers fan.


     

    StringerBellend

    Posted (edited)

    42 minutes ago, Davo said:

    Does the predictions thread have a Bad Take of The Year Award because I think I’ve found my nominee.

    What about the two goals he was at fault for made you think oh maybe he's not so bad..He was absolutely terrible.

    As for predictions I was within 5 minutes with my first goal being from needlessly playing out from the back.

    I'm mystic meg me. Although it hardly needed a sprit guide to see that one coming 

    Edited by StringerBellend
    StringerBellend

    Posted

    47 minutes ago, PedroPony said:

    Let's just write off this season now then. There are only 26 games left. See you all back here in a year's time.

    You are getting the hang of this now :)

    nmh94

    Posted (edited)

    Going into the game, the Syd FC side looked a lot stronger on paper and so it proved to be. They were probably 2 goals better imo. With a proven A-league performer like Lolley, the new Polish striker who looks the goods, and Costa, they will be hard to stop imo. Combine this with a few other guys, who may not be worldies but are experienced and know the league (Redmayne, Grant etc), it isn't really surprising they had us covered. Consistency in squads is something we have never got right. Realistically, their side is better than ours and so it proved to be.

    They will be right up there as a competitor to win the league. I am interested to see how we go against more average opposition in the next two weeks. Our defence concerns me a lot though.

    Other concern: An excellent crowd numerically but the percentage of the crowd that were Syd FC fans was by far the highest I have ever seen at Parramatta. 

    Edited by nmh94
    BoyFromTheWest

    Posted

    I think our group saw a different game.  Reading this firm today feels like we lost 10-0 and really had absolutely nothing.

    I get the drama of derby and we lost to our moral enemies and the sun failed to rise today and... but, we had a good night,. Disappointing not to get a result but the reality was I thought we'd really get done and we didn't.  They have arguably the best thing 4 and midfield, a more settled squad who has had decent real match preparation...

    How many actual good shots did they have? 3? For all their supposed domination (which is disagree with), it didn't translate. Can we improve? Absolutely!  I also wondered why it takes a squad a few weeks to get up to speed after months of pre- season and I realised it is about real, competitive game fitness and translating the training ground fills,  practice games etc into reality. It will take time.

    Mack, sorry in have to disagree with you on the title of the report (the report was good and fair overall) and your assertion that Gumby had a plan.

    We'll see...

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, BoyFromTheWest said:

    Disagree

    With anything in particular or just generally? 

    BoyFromTheWest

    Posted

    Sorry nmh94, I wasn't disagreeing with you but tried to quote something and it didn't work.

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    Just now, BoyFromTheWest said:

    I think our group saw a different game.  Reading this firm today feels like we lost 10-0 and really had absolutely nothing.

    I get the drama of derby and we lost to our moral enemies and the sun failed to rise today and... but, we had a good night,. Disappointing not to get a result but the reality was I thought we'd really get done and we didn't.  They have arguably the best thing 4 and midfield, a more settled squad who has had decent real match preparation...

    How many actual good shots did they have? 3? For all their supposed domination (which is disagree with), it didn't translate. Can we improve? Absolutely!  I also wondered why it takes a squad a few weeks to get up to speed after months of pre- season and I realised it is about real, competitive game fitness and translating the training ground fills,  practice games etc into reality. It will take time.

    Mack, sorry in have to disagree with you on the title of the report (the report was good and fair overall) and your assertion that Gumby had a plan.

    We'll see...

    I agree with most of that and that's why it's so frustrating. Sydney for all their big signings weren't really all that. We had some decent periods, but once again we gave the game away in a very typical WSW way.

    First goal came from playing our and then not adjusting when we lost the ball..The second from the 8 not bothering to mark

    Davo

    Posted

    1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

    What about the two goals he was at fault for made you think oh maybe he's not so bad..He was absolutely terrible.

    As for predictions I was within 5 minutes with my first goal being from needlessly playing out from the back.

    I'm mystic meg me. Although it hardly needed a sprit guide to see that one coming 

    He’s been great in preseason and was universally praised on here for his performances in the Cup, but one bad game against one of the strongest teams in the comp, with almost zero protection from the midfield and suddenly he’s being compared to the worst CB we’ve ever had.

    I’m used to you going full Eeyore in the post match threads but this feels a bit much.

    Unlimited

    Posted

    35 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    I agree with most of that and that's why it's so frustrating. Sydney for all their big signings weren't really all that. We had some decent periods, but once again we gave the game away in a very typical WSW way.

    First goal came from playing our and then not adjusting when we lost the ball..The second from the 8 not bothering to mark

    Hence flukes!

    I maintain my position that both goals were flukes. Our goal was all class, plus Borrello would've had a penalty anyway as he was brought down so that one is 100% a goal

    Sithslayer1991

    Posted (edited)

    Adressing the negativity losing the 1st game against Smurfs is still within my expectations for the season. If we don't beat Western United next week then we are in trouble. 

    We go from playing the title contenders to the wooden spoon contenders in Aloisi's team

    Edited by Sithslayer1991



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