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  • Mrcela Goal Puts Wanderers Top In Melbourne


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    Melbourne Victory hosted the Western Sydney Wanderers in a Round 2 clash of Round 1 winners, with the Wanderers coming up trumps in a gritty, hard fought 1-0 win in Melbourne off the back of a stunning Tomislav Mrcela goal late in the first half.

    The visitors, off the back of a scratch 1-0 win against Perth Glory named an unchanged starting lineup, the Victory dropping Stefan Nigro to the bench in favour of George Timotheou. The match was a tale of coming up against a former employer, with Lawrence Thomas and Adama Traore winning success at Victory before shifting to Sydney while Victory coach is Wanderers Premiership & Champions League winner Tony Popovic.

    In the 10th minute there was an extraordinary sequence that should have ended with a Victory goal. Jake Brimmer found Nick D'Agostino who crossed into the centre, there was a collision involving Thomas and a Victory defender. The ball dribbled through to the back post for Nani who looked to have an open net, but Cleur coming back in cover defence on the line and the tight angle did enough to have the shot bounce back off the woodwork and into the grateful hands of Thomas.

    There followed a long delay when Milos Ninkovic was flattened by a punch to the head from Paul Izzo as the keeper was knocking a lofted through ball clear, drawing blood from the attacking midfielder. Ninkovic responded with an audacious volley from long range that had Izzo worried but sailed over the bar.

    Leigh Broxham went into the notebook after a horrible lunge tackle on Kusini Yengi that was only inches away from crashing into the wingers ankle. Nani beat Cleur down the left flank and won a corner after his cut-back was knocked out by Amalfitano, the corner was awful and cleared away by the first mark. Krpic had a good chance when Yengi played him in on goal, unfortunately he was dragged wide by the pass and his shot went straight at Izzo.

    10 minutes before the break Victory had a big let off. After some quality one touch passing down the right side with Ninkovic, Amalfitano and Cleur combining to release a cut-back to the edge of the box, Yengi was unmarked and in perfect position to smash it home with a side volley but he connected with thin air and the chance went begging.

    5 minutes before the break the Wanderers finally had their reward for a great first half. From the highly unlikely source of Tomislav Mrcela. The big central defender broke clear from the Wanderers penalty area after taking on two Victory attackers to win it, shrugged off a cover defender and strode forward with purpose. After passing halfway he found Borrello, who drew his defenders and sent it back to Mrcela, his shot came from the edge of the box was blocked by a defender but it fortuitously came straight back and Mrcela was quick enough on the reaction to redirect it at a goal that was left open as Izzo had gone down to make the save. It was the last major action of the first half and the Red & Black lead was well deserved.

    Ninkovic opened the first half by getting yellow card for pulling down D'Agostino after he'd pinched the ball off the Serbian maestro, Brimmer stepped up for a direct shot on goal but his shot went well over the crossbar.

    In the 66th minute Tony Popovic went to his bench for a triple sub, bringing on Noah Smith, former Wanderer Chris Ikonomidis and Stefan Nigro. Smith immediately had an impact as his cross gave Brimmer a chance at a diving header that sliced wide of the post. With only 15 minutes to play the Wanderers defence was so stoic they had not given up a single shot on target in the match. Brimmer's struggles eventually saw him replaced by Nishan Velupilla and shortly after Ninkovic was replaced by Ramy Najjarine & while the change was being made Marko Rudan was booked on the sideline for apparent dissent.

    Victory marquee Nani made his way off the pitch as Popovic used up his final sub to bring on Lleyton Brooks as Cleur. With 5 to go tensions rose when Nieuwenhof, who had a sterling game, lost possession to D'Agostino, and sensing the immediate danger he took down the attacker with a horsecollar tackle to ensure the 4 on 3 attack couldn't come to fruition.

    A brief melee ensued that saw Mrcela add a yellow card to his goal as well as Victory keeper Izzo and the resulting free kick from Brillante was another off-target shot and one that Thomas had covered anyway. Marcelo joined his central defensive partner in the book in the 88th minute. Victory finally had their first shot on target in the 91st minute, a weak effort from a long way out that Thomas easily snaffled.

    Jarrod Carluccio had entered the fray and ticked up the 5th yellow card for the Wanderers with his own professional foul in the 92nd. Ikonomidis sparked a second melee seconds later with a horrible late bash into Carluccio, getting himself a yellow card while Borrello picked one up for apparently getting involved in the scuffle. Nigro picked up the 10th yellow card of the game when he pulled down Yengi as he was trying to take it to the corner to run out the clock.

    The game ended in the hands of Lawrence Thomas strongly claiming Melbourne's last chance cross into the box. It was a rock solid defensive performance filled with fighting spirit, hardly a smash and grab that the 0-1 score line suggests. Nieuwenhof was the stand out man of the match, dominating the midfield with steel and stamina that locked down the Victory attack and forced them out wide. It wouldn't be out of place to suggest that was the finest away performance in many years, and it could be the marker that sets up the run in to the World Cup break.

    The Wanderers win puts them in equal first with Melbourne City on 6 points, ending Victory's run of 15 regular season games unbeaten and leaving them in equal 3rd along with the Newcastle Jets after their last second win against Perth tonight. Western Sydney's next match is against the Brisbane Roar in Parramatta on Saturday the 22nd with kick off at 5pm.


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    BoyFromTheWest

    Posted (edited)

    Most rusted on supporters of football teams endure the good, bad and ugly. Most leagues have many games that are fairly ordinary. Football is everything that has been said - is going to the game with friends and family; arguing over tactics; shooting, yelling, cheering, feeling wonderful and depressed... It is the atmosphere (which at is best is different, more engaged and real than any other football code), eating/drinking before and after the game and reviewing it.

    Those who are fans of Euro Leagues are often just light football fans who know these teams and have really only known those teams going way back. Growing up I knew Pommy teams because of Match of the Week. I grew up only knowing these names, not having any connections into the old NSL teams etc of the day. I enjoy watching highlights of Euro Leagues but rarely watch a full game. The live thing is much better. There are other options in sport and many find it in NRL/AFL. They go with mates, see it on TV, read it in papers... Migrants know their team back home and need a new live connection or here - I see that as the edge FA can build on.

    Edited by BoyFromTheWest
    Edinburgh

    Posted

    20 minutes ago, marron said:

    To me, I kind of get that person who maybe grew up somewhere else and had their side. Nothing's going to replace that. But to me if you love football, nobody's asking you to drop them. I don't get why you wouldn't want to go and see some live football of decent quailty with some good atmosphere. Why wouldn't you?

    Those kinda people will already go to the a-league, even if it's every now and then, you can be sure. We've got a chance with them already.

    Those kinda people are the people the Eurosnob pretends to be, but actually isn't, because they don't come, and never will come.

    I didn't have to grow up somewhere else. Born in Edinburgh. My Dad took me to games at Tynecastle, but I don't remember them. Migrated to Australia when almost 7 years old. No knowledge of any football in Australia for a long time. None, or unaware of any, football news from Scotland for even longer. We'd sometimes get the odd bit of news.

    But I knew about Hearts.

    Went to Tynecastle during my only return to Scotland in 1975. Now, with the internet etc, I can follow Hearts fairly closely. And certainly could even more than I do if I was more savvy re internet and streaming etc.

    And as you say, "Nothing's going to replace that."

     

    marron

    Posted

    Yes, a big generalisation on my part. There are all sorts of links that can be made and are meaningful to people in different ways.

    The thing you can't do though of course is actually go to the fitba. And so you find that part in Parramatta.

    For someone to say that they love football, and never go, that's the bit I don't understand.

     

     

     

     

     

    Wanderboy

    Posted

    As others have stated, the Eurosnob thing is ******* real and I'll give examples.

     

    I have two mates, one who is a rusted on Liverpool fan and another one who passionately supports Leeds United.

    Example 1. The Liverpool fan. Born in Liverpool but migrated to Australia with his parents when he was a 6 y.o. A true westie through his whole life. Follows the Wanderers (apparently). Absolutely no recollection of his time back in the old dart. Has only ever attended Wanderers games when we were playing in big matches in our initial successful seasons. Has probably been to 3-4 Wanderers games in his life, one of which was the Brisbane 5-4 semi-final win at Pirtek. He thought the atmosphere that night was plastic, yet he went to Melbourne for the Liverpool game and tried to convince me the atmosphere there was better. Wanker Number 1.

     

    Example 2. My Leeds mate who I have known for a long time. I used to employ him and we have been mates for 3 decades. He was born and bred in Oz. Also a "proclaimed" ESFC fan. I took him to a Sydney derby once. We sat to the side of the RBB. Again, he also thought the atmosphere was shite. He'd never been to an A-League game before this night, yet it was a sold out derby and the match and atmosphere was a cracker. It didn't convince him to follow the A-League. Wanker No 2.

     

    People like @Smoggy (and many others) are legit football fans. My two mates above are your quintessential Eurosnob pretenders. We will never convince people like those to follow the A-League, sadly. I'm sure there are 10's, if not 100's of thousands of them in Sydney.

    Cynth

    Posted

    7 hours ago, Stokz said:

    The violence wasn't based on ethnicity but rather dickheads wanting to have a fight.

    Sydney United fighting vs Sth Melbourne (greeks) or Northern Spirit (aussies/poms) - Those nationalities are not in conflict or have hatred towards each other.

    If anything it was more focused as they were rivals with each other.   

    Only caveat was the United vs Bonnyrigg in NSW NPL. That was 100% ethnicity based.

    The media just jumped on it, any soccer brawl was associated with ethnic tensions etc. We were an easy target.

    Just like there's always a bit of ultra element to WSW / MV / SFC - and the associated people that cause issues. We seen the media reporting of soccer = violence / flares. 

    But agree @sonar - no need for the violence element at all, support your heritage and community and your love of football.

    I remember these rivalries well. My family supported the more sedate Melita Eagles though. 
     

    I wonder whether the issue of people coming to these games for the purpose of fighting will need to be addressed at some point though, if the second tier happens. The last thing we need is for the media to have more fodder than they already have to put **** on football.
     

    I agree that people would need to come to support their team and community but keep the violence out….but is that realistic if we don’t address it?

    Smoggy

    Posted

    I think the Eurosnob this can be regional in England as well. Some mates I had growing up in Middlesbrough supported Liverpool, Arsenal or Man U and would never consider going to a Boro game even though they lived in the town and in some cases in the streets around the ground. 

    They would laugh at my Boro top and ask the usual “what has Boro ever won”, you would respond with you support your home town and all that, but they never got it. 

    It was always natural to me, you went to Boro games with the blokes from your family, a generational thing. These other kids didn’t have good parenting in my opinion lol

    marron

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    These other kids didn’t have good parenting in my opinion lol

     

    I sometimes think, wouldn't it be nice to be like that? Not really give a ****, see your team win a bunch of trophies and just kind of enjoy it without it being all-consuming? Maybe they're doing it right :lol:

     

     

    Smoggy

    Posted

    1 minute ago, marron said:

     

    I sometimes think, wouldn't it be nice to be like that? Not really give a ****, see your team win a bunch of trophies and just kind of enjoy it without it being all-consuming? Maybe they're doing it right :lol:

     

     

    Nahhhhhh…

    Carns

    Posted

    I got my interest in football from my Grandfather who was from Lancashire and he and all his brothers supported Everton (back when they were good :P). He came here in 1960 when my mum was a toddler and was involved in setting up clubs in western Sydney with Dutch friends etc. By the time I came along he was no longer involved in the local game but passed on his love of football and cricket.

    My Grandma would buy all the grandkids football tops from their trips back home. At the time, United were massive so it was usually United tops so that's who I nominally supported. Went to England when I was an early teen and did the tour of Old Trafford etc. but it wasn't until a couple of years later that I realised I had no connection to United. Literally everyone in my family except for one person supported Everton. Cahill playing there helped too.

    Me and my mates in high school were mad about football but I only went to watch them play juniors occasionally for Northern Tigers, APIA etc. and we'd watch major tournaments and recap shows on SBS.

    When A-league started I was too busy being a young adult and didn't really pay any attention, I only watched a few games here or there and started watching some Roar games when my mate from school (Paartalu) signed under Ange (who'd been his U17s coach at the World Cup), he also played for Spirit in our last years at school.

    Then enter WSW when my good mate who's a big ESFC fan told me about the new western Sydney team. Went to the fan forum and decided to sign up and the rest is history.

    Point being I know a lot of football fans who've just never been hooked by A-league. Wouldn't say they're all snobs, just ignorant of it/apathetic. I'd say there are a lot of dormant fans who may or may not get into it one day. Having almost zero coverage doesn't help either, but it's far from the only issue.

    Stokz

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Cynth said:

    I remember these rivalries well. My family supported the more sedate Melita Eagles though. 
     

    I wonder whether the issue of people coming to these games for the purpose of fighting will need to be addressed at some point though, if the second tier happens. The last thing we need is for the media to have more fodder than they already have to put **** on football.
     

    I agree that people would need to come to support their team and community but keep the violence out….but is that realistic if we don’t address it?

    I wouldn’t worry about those people anymore - they are now probably in 40s and 50s. LOL

    New generation has some idiots - but you get that everywhere where young men are in group together. It’s not problem of just the 2nd division or AL.

     

     

    sonar

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, Taurus said:

    I don't know why they didn't engage in a meaningful way before. They had to do something tbh....bleeding members and supporters most probably has something to do with it.

    sonar

    Posted (edited)

    10 minutes ago, Taurus said:

    @sonar

    The article suspiciously appears on the day that Ch10 & Paramount claim to be rebooting their coverage of the ALiga.

    https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/all-guns-blazing-ten-readies-for-a-league-reboot-after-200m-tv-deal-20221016-p5bq8c.html

    If CH10 and Paramount in co-operation with the clubs want to do a reboot then tbh I'm ok with it.

    I want the league to survive and grow. Will it be successful ? who knows.

    I'm rusted on Wanderers....always will be.

    I think the club has realised it's pissed off the people who support it the most.......rbb and members etc and perhaps come to the realisation that being heavy handed and not supporting your supporters was the wrong way to go about things.,,,,,well, that and being shyte on the pitch as well hasn't helped.

    Edited by sonar
    StringerBellend

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Cynth said:

    I remember these rivalries well. My family supported the more sedate Melita Eagles though. 
     

    I wonder whether the issue of people coming to these games for the purpose of fighting will need to be addressed at some point though, if the second tier happens. The last thing we need is for the media to have more fodder than they already have to put **** on football.
     

    I agree that people would need to come to support their team and community but keep the violence out….but is that realistic if we don’t address it?

    Maybe I'm being a bit naive or too positive but.

    The violence of the old days is a bit over stated. Although not to say it didn't happen.

    Still think when we let the old teams in will show Sokkah has matured. 

    Especially as those teams can represent and celebrate their culture but also include all. 

    These days I go to the odd Apia game, I've got no Italian Heritage I just go as they are my local NSW NPL team. 

    Blacktown was my old NPL team and I still have a spot for them but with Apia being local I've probably become a swap shirt 

    MartinTyler

    Posted

    11 hours ago, Smoggy said:

    I think the Eurosnob this can be regional in England as well. Some mates I had growing up in Middlesbrough supported Liverpool, Arsenal or Man U and would never consider going to a Boro game even though they lived in the town and in some cases in the streets around the ground. 

    They would laugh at my Boro top and ask the usual “what has Boro ever won”, you would respond with you support your home town and all that, but they never got it. 

    It was always natural to me, you went to Boro games with the blokes from your family, a generational thing. These other kids didn’t have good parenting in my opinion lol

    This is true.....when I moved back to Nottingham in '73 there were a significant number of Man U fans locally as it was 'cool' to follow Man U from all parts of the country; I think that in Notts it was mainly due to United's European Cup win in '68 coinciding with Forest's rapid decline from that point onwards.

    WSWJACK

    Posted

    Exposure & marketing, let's toss this into the eurosnob mix, few years back wandered into Rebel to have a butchers at the football shirts on offer, usual suspects Pool, Utd, City, Barca, RM, Milan etc.

    haven't been back for a while, but i bet my bottom dollar it's the bleeding same, does the world need one billion Barca shirts ffs




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