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  • Dismal Melbourne Loss Puts Robinson At Risk


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    Melbourne Victory won an entertaining but ragged 5-4 match against the Western Sydney Wanderers tonight in Melbourne. Victory ran out to a mammoth 5-1 lead before the Wanderers charged back very late on but failed to find a last minute equaliser, the loss now the 6th game in a row the Wanderers have failed to win and heaping pressure on their top 6 position and the position of coach Carl Robinson.

    The Wanderers, coming into the game on the back of a poor loss against Brisbane Roar, were desperate to take all three points against the cellar dwelling Victory. Melbourne had sacked Grant Brebner following their disastrous 7-0 loss against their rivals Melbourne City. They made a host of changes, the most significant was the return of giant striker Rudy Gestede who had missed 5 previous games. The Wanderers bought in Jordan O'Doherty with Keanu Baccus left out. The biggest change for either side was revealed after kick-off, with Carl Robinson ditching his ineffective 5 man defensive unit, playing a regulation 4 at the back with Ziggy Gordon shifting over to right back.

    Western Sydney started brightly, on top for the first 5 minutes and eventually finding the first attack of the game, Bruce Kamau turning back inside from the byline to find O'Doherty who shot from outside the penalty area with a ball that curved away from goal rather than toward it. Mitch Duke had the radar off with his shot on the turn, a left footed strike that fizzed past the far post. Duke had a glorious chance very soon after, Troisi was free in midfield and found a perfect through ball for the striker, all he needed was a basic first touch then a strike but his touch let him down and it rolled away for a goal kick. 12 minutes in and it was Ibini on the ball, shooting from long range and forcing Matt Acton into a spill.

    As is oh so common for the Wanderers, their failed chances came back to haunt them. Robbie Kruse beat Graham Dorrans with his run on the right wing, the midfielder failing to cut down Kruse with a lunging tackle. Kruse strode into the paddock of open space, getting past Ziegler then playing a one-two pass with Callum McManaman that took advantage of Ziegler closing down the English midfielder. Margush closed down Kruse which allowed a lob to the back post. Ben Folami steadied on his right foot, shot through a diving tackle by Gordon and past the defenders on the line to open the scoring. 

    Victory doubled their lead in the 26th minute. Another Victory attack saw Gordon have to leap to knock the ball out for a corner, and the Victory took advantage of a void where the Wanderers defence was meant to be from the set piece. A simple in-swinging corner that fell into the 6 yard box and somehow Storm Roux was left unmarked and he made no mistake with the header, banging it into the turf for 2-0. The shambolic defending nearly saw the scoreline become 3-0, as they played out from the restart, lost the ball and an unmarked Kruse fired a shot into the legs of Margush.

    The Wanderers shrugged off their shellshock long enough to pull a goal back in the 30th. Kamau played a neat interchange with Mitch Duke before the winger's cutback found the feet of Troisi and his right foot shot hammered onto the underside of the crossbar with a thud to give the Wanderers a lifeline before half-time. O'Doherty should have earned a penalty in the 38th minute, he was clearly tripped inside the box by Brandon Lauton. Alireza Faghani was unimpressed, waved it away and despite clear evidence to the contrary, the VAR declined to reverse the bad decision.

    Despite the first warning from Storm Roux, the Wanderers conceded another simple goal from a set piece. Late in stoppage time McGowan picked up a yellow card for blocking Kruse from making a further run, the side managed to stop conceding from the free kick, but couldn't perform the same duty from the corner that resulted from it. This time it was a right footed out-swinger from Jake Brimmer that went deep past most of the attacking pack. Gordon was in place to clear away the cross but he slipped over at the vital moment, giving Folami a saloon passage and a free look at goal, the right footed jumping volley just beat the diving Margush to make it 3-1 at the half.

    The first chance of the second half fell to Mitch Duke. Troisi continued his decent game by putting in a well aimed, fast cross at head level for Duke's run, his slicing header fell agonisingly wide. Gordon had the chance to make amends for his set piece slip after 50 minutes, his header was spilled by Acton and only just cleared away before the Wanderers could get a shot off. Another 6 yard box pinball resulted in shots Duke and then Ibini, with Acton tipping the ball just past the onrushing boot of Kamau.

    A tale of two fouls set the scene for the next scoring opportunity in the 63rd minute. At the Victory end, Kamau tiptoed past the Victory defence before being pulled down from behind. Somehow the referee didn't see the foul and waved play on. Folami went up the other end, dribbling the entire half before being cut down by Gordon. Margush faced up to Jake Brimmer, picked the right way to dive and saved the poorly taken penalty. It didn't help the Wanderers much as they copped yet another set piece goal from the corner restart. A simple near post flick on streaked on to thefar post, Gordon had lost his marker Dylan Ryan and the young defender had a tap-in to make it 4-1.

    Jacob Butterfield got in on the scoring act for the Victory in the 72nd minute. Gestede was back to goal on the edge of the area, passed it back to Butterfield, who was allowed to take multiple touches to bring it onto his left foot and rocketed the ball into the top corner, leaving Margush standing like a rock in his goal. Kruse gave away a penalty in the 75th minute, blotting the copybook on his solid night. He jumped to block a cross with his hands out and gave Faghani no choice but to punish the offence with a spot kick. Dorrans stepped up to take the penalty, calming slotting it straight down the middle with Acton having dived to his left. At 5-2 with 15 to go, it was likely to be nothing more than a consolation goal.

    With 4 minutes left in the regulation 90 the Wanderers pulled back another goal, making it 5-3 through Mitch Duke who rose with perfect timing buried a powerful header, then as stoppage time loomed the Wanderers miraculously pulled the game back to 5-4. Nicolai Muller having come on as a substitute, had the ball deflect into his path and he hit an instinctive first time volley from at least 30 yards that arrowed into the net like a tracer bullet.

    From the restart the Victory fell to pieces, giving up possession, and the Wanderers should have equalised, but instead of a cutback to an open Duke, the ball was kept at the feet and then cleared away. Kamau then had the final chance of the game, Troisi firing a low cross that found Kamau's feet, he turned and flashed his shot just wide as 94 minutes ticked over and the Victory bought on a final time-wasting substitute to run out the clock.

    Melbourne had got away with the win as time ran short for the Wanderers, the 4 goals and the good finish papering over the cracks of their abysmal, pathetic defence. The total inability of the side to stop chances at set pieces is costing the Wanderers matches almost weekly, and is simply not good enough this long into the season. While Robinson did switch from the ineffective 5 at the back, his selection decisions were baffling, pushing Ziggy Gordon who had been the best of our central defenders to the wing, and selecting a pairing of McGowan and Ziegler in the middle, two players who have rarely managed to put together a single game without giving away a penalty, a goal from poor positioning or showing lack of effort. McGowan is not stepping up like a Captain of the Western Sydney Wanderers should be. The club has now gone 6 games without a win, and have a Sydney Derby coming the portents suggest that stretch will become 7 next Saturday.

    Carl Robinson might be in his first season at the Wanderers but his job is far from secure, the supporters are sick of coaches who cannot keep a well discipline defensive structure in place, because it is defence that keeps a team in the top echelon of the league. While I would be surprised if he was sacked by Lederer and the rest of the clowns making the decisions, Sydney FC is unlikely to gift the Wanderers as many opportunities to score and a big loss in the Derby may prove fatal to his tenure.

    The Wanderers next match is against Sydney FC at Parramatta on Saturday 1st May, kick-off at 7:10 PM.


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    Wobblies

    Posted

    Whatever happens to CR, whether he stays or goes, we need to re-build from the back. Give CCM defender Lewis Miller a decent contract. He's only 20 he has height and talent. 

    marron

    Posted

    We kind of were, for about 5 minutes, and if you take away actually scoring. How many backheels did we play in that first patch of the match last night to players who maintained possession and then were able to cross or whatever? We were cutting through them a fair bit as well.

    We didn't take any chances though and then copped 5 against the worst side in the comp so I guess there's that.

    Ken

    Posted (edited)

    2017 - 6th

    2018 - 7th

    2019 - 8th

    2020 - 9th

    2021 - 10th?. There's a very real chance

     

    Edit: This was reported earlier...Just a shambles.

    Edited by Ken
    GD07

    Posted

    I’m not sure how much I’d count that season coming 6th, we were pretty much there making up the numbers. It’s been a steady decline in all areas. 

    Tranquilo

    Posted

    well who would of predicted that we would of would be down 5-1 to Melbourne Victory in the 2nd half, the team sitting last on the ladder who came off a 7-0 whopping the match before?

    It was not only embarassing to watch our calamity from the set pieces but also sad to see what was once such a top performing club just give up goals so easy. Pace along the backline was a problem Kruse was running a muck, and simple school boy errors like picking up a man at a set piece/corner were happening. Id rather stick 2 men on the each goal post if they cant man mark. 

    At the begining of the season our defence was strong we had gone many matches with only conceding goals from set pieces, but to leak 5 against Victory well something needs to be done. Tass/Nata maybe should be fixed central defenders with Tate/Aqulina on the sides, but i think the Coach has got no more tricks in his hat, he has swaped and tried different formations,players and still can't get a starting 11.

    Lack of Marquees playing is also a major setback, they should be the ones dictating the game making a difference, we had 3 visa spot marquees on the bench, Mutch,Muller and Cox, with one of them not even playing. Visa Spots are precious they should be expected to be of higher calibre and should be leading and starting constantly if not then the question needs to be asked, can an aussie in the squad to the same job or even better? if the answer is yes then its time to get rid of the imports and search again.

    Finally we need to hold responsible those who hire and recruit these staff and players, if the coach gets sacked for not getting results then surely its time for those who hired the coach to also put their hand up and step down or hire someone with football experience to hire the right people.

    Rumours are O'Doherty,Yeboah,Mutch,Muller,Georgeveski,McGowan, and Cox are on the way out this season, Mutch being a 6mth contract without playing "mutch" games at all)

    If so its a case of recycle and start again. 

    Usually in any match you would be happy with your peformance if you put away 4 goals but leaking 5 well, thats another story!

    Potkorok

    Posted

    17 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

    We are an embarrassment not sure about the riches bit

    we are oversupplied in “ok” but largely ineffective players in the same position but reliant on kids for the backline 

    Ha ha....I did say “on paper”

    Carns

    Posted

    1 hour ago, tranquilo said:

    Rumours are O'Doherty,Yeboah,Mutch,Muller,Georgeveski,McGowan, and Cox

    Hope they add Ibini and Troisi to that list. The reality is we could easily do without all of those players.

    GE942150

    Posted

    1 hour ago, tranquilo said:

    well who would of predicted that we would of would be done 5-1 to Melbourne Victory in the 2nd half, the team sitting last on the ladder who came of 7-0 whopping the match before?

    It was not only embarassing to watch our calamity from the set pieces but also sad to see what was once such a top performing club just give up goals so easy. Pace along the backline was a problem Kruse was running a muck, and simple school boy errors like picking up a man at a set piece/corner were happening. Id rather stick 2 men on the each goal post if they cant man mark. 

    At the begining of the season our defence was strong we had gone many matches with only conceding goals from set pieces, but to leak 5 against Victory well something needs to be done. Tass/Nata maybe should be fixed central defenders with Tate/Aqulina on the sides, but i think the Coach has got no more tricks in his hat, he has swaped and tried different formations,players and still can't get a starting 11.

    Lack of Marquees playing is also a major setback, they should be the ones dictating the game making a difference, we had 3 visa spot marquees on the bench, Mutch,Muller and Cox, with one of them not even playing. Visa Spots are precious they should be expected to be of higher calibre and should be leading and starting constantly if not then the question needs to be asked, can an aussie in the squad to the same job or even better? if the answer is yes then its time to get rid of the imports and search again.

    Finally we need to hold responsible those who hire and recruit these staff and players, if the coach gets sacked for not getting results then surely its time for those who hired the coach to also put their hand up and step down or hire someone with football experience to hire the right people.

    Rumours are O'Doherty,Yeboah,Mutch,Muller,Georgeveski,McGowan, and Cox are on the way out this season, Mutch being a 6mth contract without playing "mutch" games at all)

    If so its a case of recycle and start again. 

    Usually in any match you would be happy with your peformance if you put away 4 goals but leaking 5 well, thats another story!

    Where are the rumours from? 

    If McGowan is under contract for next season and we choose to get rid of him does that still count in our cap? Or would it have to be a mutual termination?

    Carns

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, GE942150 said:

    If McGowan is under contract for next season and we choose to get rid of him does that still count in our cap? Or would it have to be a mutual termination?

    It's supposed to be mutual.

    MathyouWSW

    Posted

    14 minutes ago, Carns said:

    Hope they add Ibini and Troisi to that list. The reality is we could easily do without all of those players.

    Ibini won't go, he is Robinson's love child.

    However, if Robinson got sacked, you'll have Ibini saying he is "sick and "unwell" so he can't play for the squad which could be a benefit.

    If Robinson actually had some brains (we all know, he doesn't), I would of spoken to Rudan to see if we could of done a swap deal for Max Burgess and they have James Troisi. If he said no, I would of tried for Brad Inman for a second option (even though I would prefer Burgess). 

    Tranquilo

    Posted

    7 hours ago, Carns said:

    Hope they add Ibini and Troisi to that list. The reality is we could easily do without all of those players.

    yer Ibini and Troisi have been average especially the high hopes we had of Troisi being our main attacking midfielder pulling all the strings, Ibini well he isn't the same as he was when he played for ESFC. Moments here and there were he has played well assited were he could and scored goals but not enough to merit another season with us

    JustWandering

    Posted

    After the first half dozen matches of the season there was a sense of pride that all our goals conceded were from set pieces. This was supposedly good news because this can be fixed. It is safe to say that this has not been the case. The coaching staff are very attack oriented, with two ex strikers as assistants. Should there be a defensive coach to work individually with our defenders? Patrick Zwaanswijk is our youth coach and was a pretty smart centre back. I wonder if he does/should spend some time working with our first team?

    Tranquilo

    Posted

    7 hours ago, JustWandering said:

    After the first half dozen matches of the season there was a sense of pride that all our goals conceded were from set pieces. This was supposedly good news because this can be fixed. It is safe to say that this has not been the case. The coaching staff are very attack oriented, with two ex strikers as assistants. Should there be a defensive coach to work individually with our defenders? Patrick Zwaanswijk is our youth coach and was a pretty smart centre back. I wonder if he does/should spend some time working with our first team?

    on point there, its seems we may need a coach to work with the defenders and the defensive midfielders to interupt opposition when they have position and also how to position themselves better during the game and at set pieces.

    wswtragic

    Posted

    Is it a lack of passion for the badge? All those very bad missed goalscoring opportunities and no real agony.

    I never thought I'd pine for the days when Labinot Haliti would slump to his knees, clawing at his face, anguish etched into his brow, when he missed (oh so many) sitters. Can't say he didn't care ... and don't get me started on the Patron Saint of the Backheel.




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