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    mack

    The Western Sydney Wanderers travelled to Campbelltown Stadium hoping to break a streak of a loss following a win and pick up their first consecutive victories since Round 5 but were cruelled by an atrocious officiating display that let Valerie Germain score when he should have been sent off, his final goal a 96th minute winner that shouldn't have been awarded to give Macarthur an ill-gotten 4-3 victory. 

    Lawrence Thomas returned to the squad following his matchless international duty with the Australian National team, on the bench with Daniel Margush retaining his role at least for today. Jorrit Hendrix took Josh Brillante's spot in the starting 11, Tom Beadling was back in central defence with Alex Bonetig's injury and Tate Russell coming in with Aidan Simmons out suspended.

    The first significant moment of the game was a late, jumping shoulder charge from Keaeley Adamson on Nicolas Milanovic, the Macarthur player being hit with an immediate yellow card in just the 8th minute. From a 15th minute corner Macarthur hit the woodwork, Ulises Davila nodding a near post corner up and over the defence. From the subsequent corner the ball was launched into the 6 yard box where Tom Beadling's attempt at a clearance did nothing but cause him to commit a clear handball. Despite an obvious foul on Beadling from a Macarthur player climbing all over him, VAR declined to intervene and Germain hammered it straight down the middle for 1-0.

    Macarthur's lead lastered mere minutes. They failed to play out from the back, Hendrix found Marcus Antonsson running into the box and with Macarthur's defence scrambling and out of position he touched on for Lachlan Brook and he couldn't miss on the right foot to bring the game back level at 1-1.

    There was drama in the Wanderers penalty area, a collision between Margush and Davila also ended with Germain and Beadling both tangled up on the ground when Germain clearly kicked out twice at Beadling and hit him in the groin. To his credit Beadling didn't stay down long, and it wasn't enough time for the VAR to bother doing their job. Instead of the clear red card for Macarthur, play continued without even a cursory check from the review booth. It was another to add to the litany of examples of fouls and penalties against the Wanderers being missed by the central referee and completely ignored by the VAR.

    Despite the missed red card the Wanderers remained stuck to their task and had their reward in the 28th minute. Another mistake at the back from Macarthur gave possession away in their final third, a shot came through that Kurto palmed away for Brook on the sideline to track down. He cut back to his right and fired a cross to the back post where Milanovic was unmarked and headed down, bouncing in front of Kurto and beating the keeper to make it 2-1.

    Macarthur would have equalised in seconds if not for the intervention of Margush. Another mix up at the back let Davila find Raphael all alone, he eventually worked an angle for a shot but couldn't beat the stretched foot of Margush. They did in fact equalise anyway, a duplicate of the earlier chance but this time Raphael was allowed to dribble from near halfway into the 6 yard box, he cut inside Clisby and Margush dived away from the near post to block a cutback that never came and left.

    Brook restored the Wanderers lead minutes before half-time. Antonsson broke down into the left channel that was vacated by the Macarthur right side defence, turned back onto his right boot and spotted the late run of Brook. The run split the central defence and the cross was superb, giving Brook little more to do than get the faintest of glances to take it past Kurto for a 3-2 lead.

    Germain took full advantage of his red card reprieve to put the game on a level keel yet again. A corner that went far beyond the back post was nodded to the near post where Germain was in the right place at the right time to make the simplest of headers to score his second for the game and send the teams into the break at 3-3. It was a frenetic half that lacked stability and quality in defence punctuated by poor passing from both teams that saw the game enter into the record books as one of the many equal 2nd most goals in a first half with 6, trailing the 7 scored in a Perth vs Brisbane game in the 2015/16 season. Thomas made an early return to the pitch with Margush coming off with a concussion suffered in the Davila charge that was overshadowed by the Germain lash out.

    5 minutes into the second half the game was turned on it's head by a straight red to Beadling. With Davila running out of his defensive Beadling was chasing and expecting a turn from Davila he went for a block but slipped and ended up crashing into the back of Davila's legs, it was a poor challenge and Macarthur surrounded the ref and Beadling, the ref pulling out a straight red to put the Wanderers down to 10 men.

    Marko Rudan gave a debut to winger Aydan Hammond, coming on with Dylan Scicula for Hendrix and Milanovic. Macarthur responded with their own double sub, Yianni Nicolaou and Bernardo for Raphael and Adamson to go with the earlier sub of Jake Hollman for Kearyn Baccus.

    With 15 to go Germain cost his own team a shot on goal, with Thomas knocking the ball back into the penalty area from a heavy cross, Germain dived in to get the ball not realising his team-mate Hollman was rushing in himself for what would have likely ended up as a shot on goal. Brook left the field with his brace along with Antonsson, Dylan Pierias & Zac Sapsford the like for like subs.

    It looked like the Wanderers had held on for a point, only for the should have been sent off Germain to score a controversial goal right at the death. Ivan Vujica came down the left wing and fired a cross into the area, Germain rose high for a flick-on, Thomas made a miracle save to stop him scoring, the ball hitting the post and being pawed away by Thomas, only for the assistant ref to decide that the whole of the ball had crossed the and award a goal. Yesterday in the match in Tasmania the VAR was spending 5 or more minutes examining multiple reviews intricately, yet tonight in Campbelltown we had clear red cards and non-goals being ignored completely. 

    The goal was practically the last kick of the game and it ended in acrimony as the Wanderers bench and coaching staff remonstrated with the officials whose theft of three points dropped the Red & Black down into 5th place with Macarthur bumped up to 4th.

    The Wanderers next match is against Newcastle Jets on Sunday 11th February, in Parramatta with kick-off scheduled for 5pm.


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    StringerBellend

    Posted

    4 hours ago, William said:

    Well how about we encourage as many Wanderers supporters to attend this Sundays games and see if RBB can invent a chant supporting Rudan 

    a message to you Rudan 

     

     

    Stop their messing around;

    Better think of your future,

    Time to straighten right out,

    Creating problems in town.

    Rudan,

    A message to you, Rudan,

    A message to you.

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, tardotz said:

    The only thing that will annoy the FA and the sponsors would be attendance. Let's not give them more money and stop traveling to away games. 

    Let them have their derbies without us.....prices go up when we play away because they know we travel😁 every year they suck more money out of us and treat us like crims..... just go for the home games! 

    The whole league has been doing this for the last 7 years.. 

     

    sonar

    Posted

    18 minutes ago, tardotz said:

    The only thing that will annoy the FA and the sponsors would be attendance. Let's not give them more money and stop traveling to away games. 

    Let them have their derbies without us.....prices go up when we play away because they know we travel😁 every year they suck more money out of us and treat us like crims..... just go for the home games! 

    They're doing a really good job of making people not wanting to go to ANY games......:ninja:

    :D

     

    StringerBellend

    Posted (edited)

    7 hours ago, Smoggy said:

    You will need…

    Big pieces of card

    A wooden pole

    Large marker pens

    Loud voice

    Locate offices of bad people…

    Away you go….

    Chain and padlock an optional extra

     

     

     

    or…you could just email…..whichever is easier….

     

     

     

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    I have my Corrupt Pink card from Goodison I'll bring it to the next home game I expect it will have as much effect as it had for Everton 

    Edited by StringerBellend
    WHACKO

    Posted

    2 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

     

    a message to you Rudan 

     

     

    Stop their messing around;

    Better think of your future,

    Time to straighten right out,

    Creating problems in town.

    Rudan,

    A message to you, Rudan,

    A message to you.

    By far your best.

    WSWJACK

    Posted

    have i missed in threads, any footage of the Germain stamp?

    TheDugong

    Posted

    https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-2024-western-sydney-wanders-coach-marko-rudan-sprays-refs-in-press-conference-video-reaction/news-story/865f6d78d5cd5c75d2fe70b2ee445184

    There you have it, as far as FA referee boss Nathan Macgill is concerned, Germain didn't make contact with Beadling:

    “The VAR did review an incident between Valere Germain and Tom Beadling, in the first half, concluding that the studs of Germain’s boot did not make contact with the body of Beadling, so it was deemed not to be violent conduct,” Magill said.

    “That being said, this was a missed yellow card against Germain, something which we have discussed with the match referee as part of Football Australia’s weekly performance review of its officials.”

     

    Onto other interesting things to unpack regarding this Kersey chap

    From that link, the worst performing teams under Kersey:

    W-D-L  +/-GD

    5. BRI   7-2-10 (37%)   -4

    4. PER  6-5-6 (35%)   +1

    3. ADL  5-4-7 (31%)   -2

    2. WUN 4-2-7 (31%)  -6

    … *daylight* ...

    1. WSW  1-0-9 (10%)  -12

    One of these teams is not like the others.

     

    Over the past 2 seasons WSW have a combined record of 18-11-12 (44%)   +23

    Under Kersey over the same time period WSW  has a record of 0-0-3 (0%)  -3

     

    Germain’s stomp has been wiped from history.  Not in any highlight reels.

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, TheDugong said:

    https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-2024-western-sydney-wanders-coach-marko-rudan-sprays-refs-in-press-conference-video-reaction/news-story/865f6d78d5cd5c75d2fe70b2ee445184

    There you have it, as far as FA referee boss Nathan Macgill is concerned, Germain didn't make contact with Beadling:

    “The VAR did review an incident between Valere Germain and Tom Beadling, in the first half, concluding that the studs of Germain’s boot did not make contact with the body of Beadling, so it was deemed not to be violent conduct,” Magill said.

    “That being said, this was a missed yellow card against Germain, something which we have discussed with the match referee as part of Football Australia’s weekly performance review of its officials.”

     

    Onto other interesting things to unpack regarding this Kersey chap

    From that link, the worst performing teams under Kersey:

    W-D-L  +/-GD

    5. BRI   7-2-10 (37%)   -4

    4. PER  6-5-6 (35%)   +1

    3. ADL  5-4-7 (31%)   -2

    2. WUN 4-2-7 (31%)  -6

    … *daylight* ...

    1. WSW  1-0-9 (10%)  -12

    One of these teams is not like the others.

     

    Over the past 2 seasons WSW have a combined record of 18-11-12 (44%)   +23

    Under Kersey over the same time period WSW  has a record of 0-0-3 (0%)  -3

     

    Germain’s stomp has been wiped from history.  Not in any highlight reels.

    First thing MacGill is wrong on is,.since when did it matter if you connect or not? If you go out and a football field and deliberately attempt to hurt an opponent regardless of if you succeed its a red.

     

    Paul01

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    First thing MacGill is wrong on is,.since when did it matter if you connect or not? If you go out and a football field and deliberately attempt to hurt an opponent regardless of if you succeed its a red.

     

    McGill has joined the Queensland referee protection guild

    Potkorok

    Posted

    20 hours ago, SBW said:

    Bring webcams to Parramatta and have them stuck on the fence inline with the Goal line

    FFS how much do a couple of GoPros cost?!?! OK 4, 2 for each goal. Not rocket science

    mack

    Posted

    Still lying. I call BS on them doing any VAR check on Germain's double kick + stomp. The game restarted 1 minute after the hit, and didn't call the ref over to view the incident. Remember it's not their job to determine the actual foul or not, it's only their job to suggest there might be something to look at which this situation it clearly was.

    The day before in Tasmania they took more than 3 minutes on each check in that game.

    William

    Posted

    Marko Rudan has gone for the APL boss Garcia and Nathan Mcgill again today with a 23 minute interview.

    I support every thing Rudan is doing , if you are going to go down, go down fighting because at the end of the APL what can they do really kick Rudan out , I doubt it   

     

    William

    Posted (edited)

    At the least we should be demanding a visit to the tribunal for Valere Germain , McGill should also be relived of his duties and Adam Kersey has failed this league more than once and has been stood down previously, he should be suspended for this season at least and go thorough a process to determine if he is skilled enough to handle this job

    Garcia needs to stand up and admit the mistakes. 

    There is a clear and obvious case for these 3 to be dealt with blatant cover ups and lies

     

    Edited by William
    Upthehill

    Posted

    51 minutes ago, mack said:

    Still lying. I call BS on them doing any VAR check on Germain's double kick + stomp. The game restarted 1 minute after the hit, and didn't call the ref over to view the incident. Remember it's not their job to determine the actual foul or not, it's only their job to suggest there might be something to look at which this situation it clearly was.

    The day before in Tasmania they took more than 3 minutes on each check in that game.

    Yeah it's a load of bullshit. They missed the incident completely, and now trying to think up the most ridiculous reason they can imagine to waive the incident off.

     

    “The VAR did review an incident between Valere Germain and Tom Beadling, in the first half, concluding that the studs of Germain’s boot did not make contact with the body of Beadling, so it was deemed not to be violent conduct,” Magill said.

    This is one of the most incredibly moronic thing I've heard come from officials. Does that mean I can take a swing at a player with my fist, just to intimidate them, but as long as I dont connect, I'm all good? Because that's what theyre saying. 

    You know what i could live with? "Yep **** sorry we missed that. Unlucky". The level of incompetence here is utterly astounding


    IFAB Rule 12:
    1. Direct free kick

    A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:

    • charges
    • jumps at
    • kicks or attempts to kick

     

    Sending-off offences

    A player, substitute or substituted player who commits any of the following offences is sent off:

    • denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a handball offence (except a goalkeeper within their penalty area)

    • denying a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent whose overall movement is towards the offender’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick (unless as outlined below)

    • serious foul play

    • biting or spitting at someone

    • violent conduct

    • using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or action(s)

     

    ****Note that attempting to kick someone is considered as much of a foul as kicking another player, but old mate Nathan thinks attempting to stomp someone in the chest isnt as bad as actually stomping someone in the chest****

    MathyouWSW

    Posted

    8 hours ago, TheDugong said:

    From that link, the worst performing teams under Kersey:

    W-D-L  +/-GD

    1. WSW  1-0-9 (10%)  -12

    One of these teams is not like the others.

    Under Kersey over the same time period WSW  has a record of 0-0-3 (0%)  -3

    The game that the Wanderers won while Kersey was officiating the game was back in the 2018-19 season when Gombau was managing the Wanderers.

    I decided to check to see how's Rudan record is while Kersey is officiating:

    Rudan managing Phoenix
    vs Glory - 1-1 draw - 2nd Dec 2018

    Rudan managing Western United
    vs City 2-1 loss - 27th Oct 2019
    vs Victory 3-1 win - 8th Dec 2019
    vs City 3-2 loss - 3rd Jan 2020
    vs Victory 0-0 draw - 30th Jan 2020
    vs Bulls 2-1 loss - 30th Mar 2021
    vs Roar 2-1 loss - 5th May 2021
    vs Bulls 2-1 loss - 31st May 2021

    Rudan managing Wanderers
    vs Bulls - 3-1 loss - 12th Mar 2022
    vs Western United - 1-0 loss - 18th Dec 2022 
    vs Sydney FC - 1-0 loss - 11th Feb 2023
    vs Bulls - 4-3 loss - 4th Feb 2024

    12 games. 1 win, 2 draws 9 losses. 

    Maybe he has a grudge against Rudan as well.

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    Apparently Germain incident wasn't important enough to make the highlights 

    Cynth

    Posted

    40 minutes ago, MathyouWSW said:

    Maybe he has a grudge against Rudan as well.

    Riddance said at the beginning of the presser that he and the ref “had history”…

    theguyyouwishyouwere

    Posted

    6 hours ago, Cynth said:

    Riddance said at the beginning of the presser that he and the ref “had history”…

    is the referee Mel M's partner?

    or perhaps Rudan has had problems with the referee because he's a cu**, and instead of changing and not being a cu** - he continues to be a cu** and continues to be treated like one? 

     

    it's probably the second one because trying something that isn't working, then trying to rectify it by doing the same thing again seems a lot like his coaching tactics. 

    matty

    Posted

    1 hour ago, theguyyouwishyouwere said:

    is the referee Mel M's partner?

    or perhaps Rudan has had problems with the referee because he's a cu**, and instead of changing and not being a cu** - he continues to be a cu** and continues to be treated like one? 

     

    it's probably the second one because trying something that isn't working, then trying to rectify it by doing the same thing again seems a lot like his coaching tactics. 

    Feel better?

    StringerBellend

    Posted

    5 hours ago, NickNova said:

    I have missed this place lol

    It's missed you




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