Wanderers Lack Of Effort Costs Them Against Mariners

[Westiesarebesties]

I’ve seen a lot of claims that we started playing with 10-15 minutes to go. People are forgetting that this was the period that CCM sat right back and allowed us to have the ball. It was only then parking the bus that allowed us to look like we were now alive. They walked all over us for the rest of the game. The fact we almost got back in it is more to do with the fact they’re terrible at parking the bus.

[Neverbloom]

Sounds like I really didn't miss much, the concert was the better plan 

[marron]

24 minutes ago, Neverbloom said:

Sounds like I really didn't miss much, the concert was the better plan 

Me too

[William]

Next week and back to a good performance and the neysayers will be punching the fist in the air again but last night I don’t understand resting  Sapsford and Milanavic they should be able to run all day and every day 

[Erebus]

10 hours ago, apvz said:

 

Might be in the minority here, but not looking too deeply into this performance, just have to make sure we don't spiral down after this. Onto Auckland next Sunday

We're halfway through the season and we're 8th. We've won 2 games out of 6 at home. 

We have every right to bemoan this performance because it's indicative of the entire season thus far.

The excuses and passes Staj has received must cease.

Borello is getting too many minutes when he's gassed. Mata should be getting more minutes. Our entire defence is shocking. Our midfield hasn't been sorted yet. We're inconsistent at best. Antonssen has shown glimpses but just not good enough for a visa striker. Jeong was rubbish and now injured.

We love passing sideways and backwards all game. The frustration in the stands is obvious every time we have a chance to break or transition and we go backwards. 

This season is done.

Edited Friday at 09:12 PM by Erebus

[sonar]

11 minutes ago, Erebus said:

We're halfway through the season and we're 8th. We've won 2 games out of 6 at home. 

We have every right to bemoan this performance because it's indicative of the entire season thus far.........

We love passing sideways and backwards all game. The frustration in the stands is obvious every time we have a chance to break or transition and we go backwards. ......

100% agree with all of these.

We are becoming unwatchable.

[StringerBellend]

1 hour ago, William said:

Next week and back to a good performance and the neysayers will be punching the fist in the air again but last night I don’t understand resting  Sapsford and Milanavic they should be able to run all day and every day 

I love your positivity 

But the fact is we have lost more games at home than we have won. We have load at home to every NSW team apart from the Jets.

We are 8th and a big gap opening now.

Of course we will punch our fists in the air and enjoy the next good performance we are WSW fans. But the good performances are too few and far between.

Just when you think oh yeah we are getting somewhere e.g. victory away we follow it up with a total mess bulls at home.

I still think we have a decent squad, although hopelessly unbalanced.

But surely you can see that the lack of consistency is on the manager.

Frustrating as we have some very good players. No way we should be getting beat 3-1 at home by that Mariners team 

[StringerBellend]

I'm banging on about the home form, but apart from if you can't win at home you ain't going to do anything.

Home is home, it's where your own fans get to watch the game. 

If you don't win or at least entertain at home then what's the point? 

My kids won't go the game, and I've gave up pushing them. 

I missed the seabogans game (only one Ill miss) due to family stuff. But part of me is like what's the point 

I'm trying to get on the Staj band wagon as I want it to work. So I can watch some decent footy.

But 

2 wins at home 

Losing to every local rival other than Jets 

Twice now followed up decent away results by making overly clever wholesale changes, and putting in a **** performance

8th!! 

In a **** league 

He's a a darling of the limited Australian football media and seems to be beyond critism. But his A League record is terrible and not just with us. 

 

[Smoggy]

It's those that have been stumping out home season tickets season after season i feel for. I stopped after the first season at spotless and reverted to basic supporter membership. The entertainment value has been consistently shite ever since the final season at the old stadium. If you have retained a full season ticket that is alot of $$$$$$ for very little value, other than you can say you are loyal.

As for last night...don't want to hear any Perth excuses...it was just total rubbish to a man, across the pitch. No effort, sloppy passing, poor pressing all the basics you would expect not there, until the final 10.

This club is just hopeless.

[StringerBellend]

9 hours ago, Westiesarebesties said:

I’ve seen a lot of claims that we started playing with 10-15 minutes to go. People are forgetting that this was the period that CCM sat right back and allowed us to have the ball. It was only then parking the bus that allowed us to look like we were now alive. They walked all over us for the rest of the game. The fact we almost got back in it is more to do with the fact they’re terrible at parking the bus.

Could also be related to we started the game with three of our best players on the bench, why?

As big Al

[StringerBellend]

You know the most annoying thing here. We can't even have a good laugh at Sotirio signing to the other lot.. 

Who comfortably beat the Mariners the other day.

Perspective we just let 3 goals in at home to am absolutely shite team 

Edited Friday at 10:45 PM by StringerBellend

[MartinTyler]

The late surge where we almost grabbed an equaliser papered over what was a most inept performance. What was particularly galling for me was the number of players who just couldn't get the basics right and that the winning (2nd) goal was scored by a League 2 quality player. Mariners were decent last night despite previous results, but we were nowhere.

[SBW]

Last month, John Hutchinson the Mariners legend brought his Yokohama FC team against the Mariners, his team  finished mid table in the J-League but his team blew the Mariners of the park in the ACL.

Last night it was the other way around, Staj has no philosophy, no tactical Game plan, just hoof ball and hope for the best, bringing an experienced CB isn't going to solve the issues we have.

[Smoggy]

2 minutes ago, SBW said:

Last month, John Hutchinson the Mariners legend brought his Yokohama FC team against the Mariners, his team  finished mid table in the J-League but his team blew the Mariners of the park in the ACL.

Last night it was the other way around, Staj has no philosophy, no tactical Game plan, just hoof ball and hope for the best, bringing an experienced CB isn't going to solve the issues we have.

Only another 4 months and Staj will be goneski.

[wslincoln]

A lot of people are split over the Juan Mata situation. Against a team that pretty much played a low bloc throughout the 90, Juan Mata would have been good to find those crucial balls as we saw in the 84th or whatever bloody minute they scored. Against the better teams who are going to play through you, he is too old to rely just on his technical skill. Proof is in the pudding though, an assist within 15 minutes or even 10 I can't remember shows his class.

Just expect a 3-0 loss and you might find some enjoyment in next week.

[Westiesarebesties]

6 minutes ago, wslincoln said:

A lot of people are split over the Juan Mata situation. Against a team that pretty much played a low bloc throughout the 90, Juan Mata would have been good to find those crucial balls as we saw in the 84th or whatever bloody minute they scored. Against the better teams who are going to play through you, he is too old to rely just on his technical skill. Proof is in the pudding though, an assist within 15 minutes or even 10 I can't remember shows his class.

Just expect a 3-0 loss and you might find some enjoyment in next week.

This, I don’t know if people are forgetting the games he started but against a full energy team who are actually pushing up when we’ve got the ball he struggled. He’s a luxury player, if he starts he needs the squad around him to play a style that allows him to not be running back in defence and not have to do aggressive runs forward.

Also, **** sake Brilliante had a bad game last night. So many little miss hit passes that resulted in a loss in the centre of the park and an attack on our back foot.

[MartinTyler]

20 minutes ago, Westiesarebesties said:

Also, **** sake Brilliante had a bad game last night. So many little miss hit passes that resulted in a loss in the centre of the park and an attack on our back foot.

I think he's played OK this season but last night had a shocker. IMO he should have stayed in the back 4 for an element of stability given that it was inevitable that we'd make changes elsewhere. Sadly, Pantazopoulos looked like an NPL player last night too.

[SBW]

46 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

Only another 4 months and Staj will be goneski.

There were rumours last month the club want to retain Staj for next season despite not delivering the results

[Smoggy]

9 minutes ago, SBW said:

There were rumours last month the club want to retain Staj for next season despite not delivering the results

Of course they are 

[TwoLeftFoots]

22 minutes ago, MartinTyler said:

Also, **** sake Brilliante had a bad game last night. So many little miss hit passes that resulted in a loss in the centre of the park and an attack on our back foot.

Not just brillante, all over the field.

Couldn't pass, horrible first touches. Whole team was off.

 

Should have been more than 3 conceded

 

[WHACKO]

2 hours ago, Erebus said:

We're halfway through the season and we're 8th. We've won 2 games out of 6 at home. 

We have every right to bemoan this performance because it's indicative of the entire season thus far.

The excuses and passes Staj has received must cease.

Borello is getting too many minutes when he's gassed. Mata should be getting more minutes. Our entire defence is shocking. Our midfield hasn't been sorted yet. We're inconsistent at best. Antonssen has shown glimpses but just not good enough for a visa striker. Jeong was rubbish and now injured.

We love passing sideways and backwards all game. The frustration in the stands is obvious every time we have a chance to break or transition and we go backwards. 

This season is done.

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It was along time ago...

[StringerBellend]

22 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

Of course they are 

If that's the case I'm done 

Although I think I'm done anyway 

That we took a manager who has never won anything other than 2 wooden spoons says it all

Keeping him based on a heoric 8th place finish would be the last straw 

8th is optimistic 

Oh we have already lost 2 proper Derby's and 1 more to the south west team 

But apparently he gets a high pass mark 

Hate to see what failure is 

Edited Saturday at 12:19 AM by StringerBellend

[Legionista]

Yeah that doom and gloom.

[Erebus]

1 hour ago, SBW said:

There were rumours last month the club want to retain Staj for next season despite not delivering the results

Old mate board member took taking the Philippine women's team to the WC with all naturalised players that had never stepped foot in the country as an excuse that Staj can cut it in a salary capped mens AL.

 

At this stage I'd take Arnie 😅

[SBW]

5 minutes ago, Erebus said:

Old mate board member took taking the Philippine women's team to the WC with all naturalised players that had never stepped foot in the country as an excuse that Staj can cut it in a salary capped mens AL.

 

At this stage I'd take Arnie 😅

Kind of shows the state of things at this club which is depressing 

[MartinTyler]

10 minutes ago, Erebus said:

At this stage I'd take Arnie 😅

I wouldn't.....

[nmh94]

A lot of it has been said already but that was really, really disappointing. We had actually been pretty good recently for the most part, and then we dish that up for 80 minutes at home against a team lower than us on the table. For the first time probably all season, our attack looked as bad as our defence, which as especially disappointing as we know the ability is there in attack (unlike defence, where they just aren't up to it). It again shows if our attack doesn't fire we have nothing. The last 10 minutes was how the 90 should have gone - can't believe how close we were to stealing a point.

I'm not in the season over camp - I still think we can make the 6. But for that to happen, our home form must get better. And it needs to start next week against Auckland. 

[StringerBellend]

29 minutes ago, nmh94 said:

A lot of it has been said already but that was really, really disappointing. We had actually been pretty good recently for the most part, and then we dish that up for 80 minutes at home against a team lower than us on the table. For the first time probably all season, our attack looked as bad as our defence, which as especially disappointing as we know the ability is there in attack (unlike defence, where they just aren't up to it). It again shows if our attack doesn't fire we have nothing. The last 10 minutes was how the 90 should have gone - can't believe how close we were to stealing a point.

I'm not in the season over camp - I still think we can make the 6. But for that to happen, our home form must get better. And it needs to start next week against Auckland. 

We are all over the place we have had some good games recently and some good patches in games but we can't string a run of games together.

A good draw away to Melbourne gets followed up with a crap loss at home to the Bulls.

Win away at Perth (although we only played well for about 40 mins in that one) gets followed up with this.

I'm stuffed if I understand what Staj is doing. We seem to find a way to play that works so next game he puts 3 players on the bench and we wonder why we get a different performance.

2 wins at home both against poor teams says enough about were we are at 

 

[Themumf79]

2 hours ago, MartinTyler said:

I wouldn't.....

I would have to swallow my own vomit but I would take him. At least he knows how to win. 

[StringerBellend]

I'd go for the Maestro Franco Parisi or Crittenden 

The who else we would get? Who would come? is a rubbish argument There are only 11 fulltime coaching gigs in Australia.