Alen Stajcic Discussion

[Smoggy]

On 21/1/2025 at 9:55 AM, Hughesy said:

It’s easy to say this in retrospect. As I said, there was very little protest and quite a lot of approval when we signed Gombau, Robbo and MB. In fact most fans were actively asking for Gombau and Robbo and the club responded by hiring them

Robbo came with a reputable warning from Canada and was discussed at the time, it was also discussed how he had very little time at the Jets and hadn’t proved that much. His appointment came with a good dose of skepticism which was found to be warranted.

No surprise from me when he failed.

Edited 9 hours ago by Smoggy

[Unlimited]

As I said in the other thread:

I believe in Joe Hendry Alen Stajcic

[immortalshogun]

58 minutes ago, Unlimited said:

As I said in the other thread:

I believe in Joe Hendry Alen Stajcic

hey look if Joe Hendry can win a title so can we, I believe

[matty]

1 hour ago, BoyFromTheWest said:

That's not what I heard him say. When all these coaches were brought in, we all were pleased that we got who we wanted and believed they would deliver the promised goal. They didn't and when they failed we, the fans, were amongst the biggest critics of the original decision (though it's what we wanted). I'm not sure he's defending anyone,  simply stating that fans have been very pleased with the appointment of several previous coaches, none of whom survived.

It is interesting about coaches. None of us would have picked Corica to build and coach the team he had in Auckland. He failed at Sydney in the FNC and the rhetoric here was that he only succeeded on the work Arnie did and only whilst the team he built lasted. In a new environment he doing well.

In fact most fans were actively asking for Gombau and Robbo and the club responded by hiring them.

verbatim

 

also, ease up on the straw-maning about 'we all' being happy with these appointments.

Staj - mixed reaction at best.

Rudes - mixed 

 

[BoyFromTheWest]

I said some coaches,  as was implied previously, hey. I agree,  Rudes was very mixed for various reasons and Staj also very mixed as you rightly say. It was really the Barcalona Bus Driver and Robbo.

[WHACKO]

We've all got our opinions of Staj which is far enough. 

Half the season is over and enough time in my mind to see if he has what it takes to make it.

With half the season left. The two questions I have is to any willing to put their opinions on the line is.

1. Is Staj the man to turn us around. 

2. Will we make the six.

My answer to both questions is NO.

Over to all of you. 

[William]

Ground hog day 

[pseudonym]

30 minutes ago, WHACKO said:

1. Is Staj the man to turn us around.

Short answer - no, our defence is poor. 

Long answer - I don't think there is anyone who can turn us around. The board aren't interested in long term planning like a director of football. We could have the guy who's coaching Liverpool at the moment and still stuff up. If the team doesn't win at home, less people turn up and the club loses revenue to invest in long term football development.

30 minutes ago, WHACKO said:

2. Will we make the six?

Nope - we would need to win 7 of our remaining 13 games 

[StringerBellend]

4 hours ago, VedranRozic said:

#stajout #angein - he is going to be looking for a job soon.

Dyche In!

Dribbling is for babies 

 

[Smoggy]

39 minutes ago, WHACKO said:

We've all got our opinions of Staj which is far enough. 

Half the season is over and enough time in my mind to see if he has what it takes to make it.

With half the season left. The two questions I have is to any willing to put their opinions on the line is.

1. Is Staj the man to turn us around. 

2. Will we make the six.

My answer to both questions is NO.

Over to all of you. 

1. Is Staj the man to turn us around. 
 

There is no evidence to suggest he can turn around this around there is no similar situation to go from on this with Staj. His best work was in women’s football. The defence is dreadful, we rely on Clisby week in week out, we can’t play at home and even when we win a game (usually away) we never really look in control, it’s all a bit crazy. The idea behind bringing Staj in was for stability and build a solid foundation, I see non of that, we will end this season in as big a mess as any of the previous decade. 

2. Will we make the six.

No. With our defence we don’t deserve to. Even if we did we would be smashed the first week.

[StringerBellend]

I'm a naysayer 

But 

Gumby I didn't want him, too much of a theorist all about the endless passing etc. I argued constantly with @mack on that one but for Gumby got Adelaide moving the right way but Amor got them to winning a GF

DJ Bavaria, I still don't know how that didn't work, I really really thought he'd be the dude to transform us and Australian footy. On the plus side he has great clothes.

Rudan got to be honest I always thought he would be the post Popa manager, I wasn't personally that keen for all the off field stuff than on field, I didn't the see implode coming 

JP did anyone think that was going to work 

Carlo we for him based on about 7 games with the Jets, he was terrible 

Long way of saying yes we have sacked managers quickly but you could argue that we actually have a couple of them too long.

Rudan season 2 was a complete waste of time (although he did bring Milanovic in)

I wasnt keen on Staj. In the market there was Popa, kisnorbo and Hutchison two a league winners and a runner up, we went for the wooden spoon winner.

He's here now so I hope it works and I really I hope @william can say I tell you so. 

I just want is to win at home have a real go at the finals again, is that too much to ask.

Call be a hopeless optimist but I still think we can this year, even without a new CB but it will require a big change in attitude 

[mack]

16 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

Gumby got Adelaide moving the right way

Yes, by winning a trophy, something our club hasn't done in the time since, or even got to the final of yet (along with Nix, Jets & WU). 

JP has a 43% WR as a manager in his 14 games in charge of WSW. That's identical to Popovic (over his entire career, cbf figuring out his WSW stats only) and better than all the other coaches we've had. Lederer sacking JP for Robinson (3 months after appointing him full time) was the final nail in the coffin of the post-covid chance to rebuild the club.

Replacing a guy who knew the league and knew the country who had done a good enough job to earn that contract in the first place, getting taken out back and put down for Robinson and the self-dealing his player agency introduced stuck us in a deep hole for 5 years now.

[WHACKO]

21 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

I'm a naysayer 

But 

Gumby I didn't want him, too much of a theorist all about the endless passing etc. I argued constantly with @mack on that one but for Gumby got Adelaide moving the right way but Amor got them to winning a GF

DJ Bavaria, I still don't know how that didn't work, I really really thought he'd be the dude to transform us and Australian footy. On the plus side he has great clothes.

Rudan got to be honest I always thought he would be the post Popa manager, I wasn't personally that keen for all the off field stuff than on field, I didn't the see implode coming 

JP did anyone think that was going to work 

Carlo we for him based on about 7 games with the Jets, he was terrible 

Long way of saying yes we have sacked managers quickly but you could argue that we actually have a couple of them too long.

Rudan season 2 was a complete waste of time (although he did bring Milanovic in)

I wasnt keen on Staj. In the market there was Popa, kisnorbo and Hutchison two a league winners and a runner up, we went for the wooden spoon winner.

He's here now so I hope it works and I really I hope @william can say I tell you so. 

I just want is to win at home have a real go at the finals again, is that too much to ask.

Call be a hopeless optimist but I still think we can this year, even without a new CB but it will require a big change in attitude 

So in short...that's a No and No.

[Sithslayer1991]

41 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

I wasnt keen on Staj. In the market there was Popa, kisnorbo and Hutchison two a league winners and a runner up, we went for the wooden spoon winner.

 

Be glad we didn't get Kisnorbo otherwise we would be even more screwed now. Hutchinson was never going to come here after he turned around Yokohama F Marinos aftwr what Kewel did his stock in Japan went up.

Popa was probably the only realistic big name we could go for. But the new head of the trust went with Staj.

[matty]

1 hour ago, WHACKO said:

 

1. Is Staj the man to turn us around. 

2. Will we make the six.

1. He's capable, i think it's less likely than not though. 

I'd keep him for the rest of the season either way. 

2. No. 

[StringerBellend]

1 hour ago, WHACKO said:

So in short...that's a No and No.

Could be a yes and yes.

I really have no idea.

It can't be a yes and a no though 

Or it could be Rudan again in which chase it's a no and yes