Carl Robinson Sacked

[mack]

The Western Sydney Wanderers have sacked manager Carl Robinson after an awful start to the 2021/22 A-League season that left the club in 11th place with only a solitary win.

Western Sydney's 3-0 loss to the Brisbane Roar has proven fatal for Robinson, who was poached from the Newcastle Jets & appointed as the club manager in October 2020.

After being appointed following the internal review that resulted in Jean-Paul de Marigny being sacked just 9 months after he took over from Markus Babbel, Robinson has walked out the door of the Wanderers Centre of Football for the last time. Having been given a full pre-season, a raft of high-profile signings like Jack Rodwell, Tomer Hemed and Rhys Williams and a 3 week opportunity to reset the team direction, the loss to the Roar made it clear he did not have what it takes to bring the club back to where the ownership and supporters expect.

Performances during Robinson's time at the helm were marked by awful football filled with backward passing, a refusal to take on markers one on one and an inability to defend at set pieces. Another low point of the season was being dumped out of the FFA Cup by NPL team APIA Leichhardt, a competition that the club & Robinson claimed to be taking seriously and yet resulted in a wholesale change to a second 11 that were embarrassed by the part timers of the NPL club. His strategy of signing former players, poaching multiple players from the Newcastle Jets was a clearly failed strategy and will leave the new manager to pick up the pieces of his shattered recruitment.

Enough was enough for the club leadership who have burned through yet another manager, adding the fast talking Robinson to the scrap heap along with Markus Babbel, Josep Gombau, Jean Paul de Maringy and Hayden Foxe. The cavalcade of failures also puts the jobs of CEO John Tsatsimas and Football Operations Manager Gavin Costello in the firing line.

No successor has been named at this time although the usual rumours of former a-League coaches are swirling. Graham Arnold has also been whispered, but is unlikely to leave his role as National team coach until at least the end of the 2022 World Cup qualification campaign and only then if Australia fails to make it to Qatar. Alen Stajcic will soon be finishing up with the Philippines Women's team at the end of the Women's Asian Cup 2022 and he will be seen as a favourite to return to the A-League. Applications from overseas managers will flood in as usual.

The experienced Gary van Egmond is a likely candidate to take over as interim manager.

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[102megan]

Make sure we all attend Wednesday night's home match again Perth Glory.  The club listened, let's help get things back on track!! 

[Smoggy]

Inevitable, you never want to see the shite happen but dead set fraud he was.

I wonder who his next victim....sorry I mean club will be

Seeya Carlo

[Hughesy]

Another season wasted. You could see this coming a mile away. The opportunity was there to give him the flick at the end of last season where he had well and truly shown he was incompetent. 

Now we are stuck with his signings for the next 12-18 months until contracts run out or can be mutually terminated. God forbid we sit through another caretaker on top of that. 

Realistically it’ll be another 18-24 months before any new manager has ‘his team’. What a debacle. 
 

[Smoggy]

Also I rank Carl as worse than Gombie or Babbel

Hopefully we see a reaction from the players now.

[MathyouWSW]

Had to happen.

As I said last night, Brisbane Roar's squad is not even close to looking like an actual A-League club and has players that were previously playing in the NPL.

I didn't even watch last night's game but looking at the squad's lineup, it looked like Robinson decided to revert back to his old antics of having 5 at the back.

[StringerBellend]

1 minute ago, hughsey said:

Another season wasted. You could see this coming a mile away. The opportunity was there to give him the flick at the end of last season where he had well and truly shown he was incompetent. 

Now we are stuck with his signings for the next 12-18 months until contracts run out or can be mutually terminated. God forbid we sit through another caretaker on top of that. 

Realistically it’ll be another 18-24 months before any new manager has ‘his team’. What a debacle. 
 

This is the only league where people obsess about he needs his own team. No manager gets his own team at the start.

That squad is more than good enough to get to the top 4 if the new manager can't achieve something with that group of players then he's the wrong dude 

Let's not spend another year of it's not his team excuses.. it's not football manager on the PC

 

 

[StringerBellend]

I'm not buying into this another season wasted bollocks still time. FFS you only have to finish top half to get a spot in the semis 

[xposedPatricK]

4 minutes ago, hughsey said:

Another season wasted. You could see this coming a mile away. The opportunity was there to give him the flick at the end of last season where he had well and truly shown he was incompetent. 

Now we are stuck with his signings for the next 12-18 months until contracts run out or can be mutually terminated. God forbid we sit through another caretaker on top of that. 

Realistically it’ll be another 18-24 months before any new manager has ‘his team’. What a debacle. 
 

Despite Carl having nfi, I did and still do like his signings.

We have one of the best rosters in the league and we should have been competing for top 4.

I just hope whoever takes the wheel bring out the best of the players and allow them to play to their strengths.

 

[Hughesy]

1 minute ago, StringerBellend said:

This is the only league where people obsess about he needs his own team. No manager gets his own team at the start.

That squad is more than good enough to get to the top 4 if the new manager can't achieve something with that group of players then he's the wrong dude 

Let's not spend another year of it's not his team excuses.. it's not football manager on the PC

 

 

Tell that to the precious managers who couldn’t possibly work with someone they didn’t recruit… I agree with you but it’s reality we’re headed for another clean out

[HillsWanderer]

I’ll admit I was happy when we signed Carl but I’m so much happier now that he is gone.

[sonar]

Just now, StringerBellend said:

I'm not buying into this another season wasted bollocks still time. FFS you only have to finish top half to get a spot in the semis 

 

Just now, xposedPatricK said:

Despite Carl having nfi, I did and still do like his signings.

We have one of the best rosters in the league and we should have been competing for top 4.

I just hope whoever takes the wheel bring out the best of the players and allow them to play to their strengths.

 

Yep to both. We can still give the comp a real shake up.  Wonder who will take over. ?

[StringerBellend]

Just now, hughsey said:

Tell that to the precious managers who couldn’t possibly work with someone they didn’t recruit… I agree with you but it’s reality we’re headed for another clean out

What precious managers 

It's a made up thing on here.. 

It was team Gombau making excuses then team Babels excuse 

Nobody else thinks the manager has time to build their own team

 

[EmMac]

Good move by the club but faaarrck, it's like groundhog day. 

Genuinely hope the club a) have a plan and b) seriously look at where the rot is coming from

We give them membership money each season. It's not unreasonable to expect they apply themselves to the problem, and not do a review that gives them the easy/glib solutions designed to placate us, rather than addressing the problems. 

My capacity for bullshite is very low after so many years of disastrous performances 

[GunnerWanderer]

Thank **** for that 

I don’t think we need a clean out there is some talented players around 

this is great news - looking forward to the short term buzz!

[StringerBellend]

1 minute ago, sonar said:

 

Yep to both. We can still give the comp a real shake up.  Wonder who will take over. ?

Unless we have stajic lined up then GVE for now while a worldwide search is commenced no stone left unturned 

 

 

It's a big WSW welcome to Frank Farina 

[GunnerWanderer]

7 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

That squad is more than good enough to get to the top 4 if the new manager can't achieve something with that group of players then he's the wrong dude 

Fully agree the talent is finally there 

[Generator]

I’m surprised this post has already generated quite a few comments, but I guess I’m probably not the only lapsed season ticket holder who has come back to the forum in light of this news.

I don’t have my visibility of the NPL scene, but surely there’s a decent coach out there willing to take a chance on this club. By all accounts there should be a corporate clear out, too, but I’ll settle for some decent performances on the pitch. Maybe then I’ll come back and watch a game in person. Maybe.

[StringerBellend]

I'm hopeful the one game CR wasn't there we put three in and looked a totally different team

 

[sonar]

1 minute ago, EmMac said:

Good move by the club but faaarrck, it's like grounding day. 

Genuinely hope the club a) have a plan and b) seriously look at where the rot is coming from

We give them membership money each season. It's not unreasonable to expect they apply themselves to the problem, and not do a review that gives them the easy/glib solutions designed to placate us, rather than addressing the problems. 

My capacity for bullshite is very low after so many years of disastrous performances 

Great post Em........This is the sentiment of the majority of fans tbh,

[Upthehill]

Genuinely one of the worst coaching efforts in this leagues history. You'd struggle to convince a local park premier league team to take him at this point

Cheeky fiver on Stajic being next. His womens comp finishes in 6 days

[StringerBellend]

I've heard Sam Allardyce 

 

 

[xposedPatricK]

5 minutes ago, Upthehill said:

Genuinely one of the worst coaching efforts in this leagues history. You'd struggle to convince a local park premier league team to take him at this point

Cheeky fiver on Stajic being next. His womens comp finishes in 6 days

Could be sooner 

he’s done more than expected for the Philippines women national team bringing them out of the group stages

#stajin

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[BoyFromTheWest]

Had to happen. Hope that CR is the real issue and not just part of the problem who is the scapegoat. Easy to put all the blame on one person but one person, a club does not make!!

[GD07]

1 down 2 to go. 

[Amos]

I hope this is the start of some good times for us.I suspect though that there is more clean up needed.You all know what I mean

[Smoggy]

38 minutes ago, EmMac said:

Good move by the club but faaarrck, it's like groundhog day. 

Genuinely hope the club a) have a plan and b) seriously look at where the rot is coming from

We give them membership money each season. It's not unreasonable to expect they apply themselves to the problem, and not do a review that gives them the easy/glib solutions designed to placate us, rather than addressing the problems. 

My capacity for bullshite is very low after so many years of disastrous performances 

I hope the club have a plan also, but experience tells us they will be making it up as they go along again.

Carl is gone, history...the big positive today is that I really do believe we have a squad that can compete, that has a blend of experience and talented youth. I hope the players are taking this in the best way and ready to show what they can do. I am really looking forward to hopefully seeing some of the kids bounce back, the Natta's and Wilmering types who are MUCH better players than the bits we have seen this season. The players have looked miserable all season, I hope they take to the pitch against Perth feeling lighter and happier and able to show what they can do.

We are behind them anyways.

Edited January 30, 2022 by Smoggy

[StringerBellend]

I get that the common denominator is Lederer and JT but given the players we have signed (everything CR asked for) what is it exactly that people thing Ledderer needs to do?

He's the owner, he pays the bills..would people prefer the bakaris, Charlesworth, Nathan Tinkler etc. Or do we want to be a CFG franchise? 

 

[StringerBellend]

1 minute ago, Smoggy said:

I hope the club have a plan also, but experience tells us they will be making it up as they go along again.

Carl is gone, history...the big positive today is that I really do believe we have a squad that can compete, that has a blend of experience and talented youth. I hope the players are taking this in the best way and ready to show what they can do. I am really looking forward to hopefully seeing some of the kids bounce back, the Natta's and Wilmering types who are MUCH better players than the bits we have seen. The players have looked miserable all season, I hope they take to the pitch against Perth feeling lighter and happier.

I hope Petratos is lighter