StringerBellend Posted September 20, 2020 Posted September 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Prydzopolis said: The comments are depresssing, ignorant people assuing that A League players are on mega bucks, they aren't. DinoPresinger 1
Neverbloom Posted September 20, 2020 Posted September 20, 2020 4 hours ago, StringerBellend said: The comments are depresssing, ignorant people assuing that A League players are on mega bucks, they aren't. maybe a few Marquee players are but even then they are not on ADP money StringerBellend 1
mack Posted September 21, 2020 Author Posted September 21, 2020 13 hours ago, StringerBellend said: The comments are depresssing, ignorant people assuing that A League players are on mega bucks, they aren't. As badly as the owners & FFA in particular have done running the A-League, the player salaries are hugely inflated for the level of income they bring in. Their salary level meant the clubs make no profit outside of a handful of clubs in boom years or when a particularly large transfer fee is earned and both of those have been very rare. The clubs have consistently lost $1 to $5 million a season per club every season, some owners are happy to fund that, others less so, and even lesser now. Every time the clubs got close to profitability, the FFA turned around and kicked the can even further down the road with their cozy PFA agreements where the clubs had no input and they end with inevitable cap increases because the FFA don't care about because they're not the ones paying for it. People always say the A-League tickets cost too much. How are clubs ever going to reduce prices if their expenses keep constantly rising? I imagine the club owners are tired of the losses. Limiting the pay cut to 30% is generous from the owners considering the destruction of their two major revenue streams (TV rights & ticket sales/memberships). I've said for years the A-League is unsustainable and needs to transition to the same football economy that works in every other country on the planet barring a handful of exceptions like the MLS (which we've now lost the chance to replicate in a smaller manner).
StringerBellend Posted September 21, 2020 Posted September 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, mack said: As badly as the owners & FFA in particular have done running the A-League, the player salaries are hugely inflated for the level of income they bring in. Their salary level meant the clubs make no profit outside of a handful of clubs in boom years or when a particularly large transfer fee is earned and both of those have been very rare. The clubs have consistently lost $1 to $5 million a season per club every season, some owners are happy to fund that, others less so, and even lesser now. Every time the clubs got close to profitability, the FFA turned around and kicked the can even further down the road with their cozy PFA agreements where the clubs had no input and they end with inevitable cap increases because the FFA don't care about because they're not the ones paying for it. People always say the A-League tickets cost too much. How are clubs ever going to reduce prices if their expenses keep constantly rising? I imagine the club owners are tired of the losses. Limiting the pay cut to 30% is generous from the owners considering the destruction of their two major revenue streams (TV rights & ticket sales/memberships). I've said for years the A-League is unsustainable and needs to transition to the same football economy that works in every other country on the planet barring a handful of exceptions like the MLS (which we've now lost the chance to replicate in a smaller manner). Our players have been on job keeper for weeks then asked to go play out a season few of them are on big $ $40k for an U20 an $60k for over 20s should not be unsustainable The League has been ran into the ground let’s not lay that on the players
mack Posted September 21, 2020 Author Posted September 21, 2020 The fans & owners have been subsidising the players since the A-League started 15 years ago. TV deal being cut by half is worth the entire league's salary floor.
Sithslayer1991 Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Getting a bit off topic but yes the club owners have been forking a lot of money keeping clubs afloat. FFA regulations were a big part of that, if Qantas was a sponsor for FFA clubs couldn't get Virgin or Qatar airways as a sponsor because it violated the agreement. Bruce Djite came out of foxsports podcast and he use to think like any player and any other fan but then became Football director at Adelaide and looked at the numbers and say what you will about the owners but they foot in a lot of the bill its not sustainable and its been like this for 15 years without any relaxation. Its a poor business model that has no chance to succeed hence the independence push from club owners Prydzopolis 1
MathyouWSW Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Looks like Nathaniel Atkinson and Andrew Nabbout aren't going to be transferred to Glory now. Atkinson will stay with Melbourne City Nabbout future is unclear. Yikes.
StringerBellend Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 22 hours ago, mack said: The fans & owners have been subsidising the players since the A-League started 15 years ago. TV deal being cut by half is worth the entire league's salary floor. It's the owners business, not up to the players to do it. Ledderer is ok to put money into infrastructure (which is a good thing), but not the players (not a good thing). If any owner sells his francise for a profit he isn't likely to pay the players back for wages he has withheld
StringerBellend Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, MathyouWSW said: Looks like Nathaniel Atkinson and Andrew Nabbout aren't going to be transferred to Glory now. Atkinson will stay with Melbourne City Nabbout future is unclear. Yikes. As player you would be an idiot to go to Perth at the moment
mack Posted September 22, 2020 Author Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, StringerBellend said: It's the owners business, not up to the players to do it. Ledderer is ok to put money into infrastructure (which is a good thing), but not the players (not a good thing). If any owner sells his francise for a profit he isn't likely to pay the players back for wages he has withheld A-League has been a loss making enterprise for a decade and a half. At some point the owners need to start regularly breaking even & making profits because otherwise there's no financial incentive to actually have a league in the first place. Sure, there would probably be an attempt at a 3rd Australian national league if the A-League died, it will be a shadow of how the A-League has operated and it certainly wouldn't keep paying mediocre journeymen $150k a year. We've blown through how many millionaires & billionaires so far? We're about to lose Charlesworth, the guy who owns Newcastle would be out if he could, and while they're both clinging on to hopefully make some cash back on a license they're not spending anything but the bare minimum.
StringerBellend Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 How many players are on 150k? It’s not that many majority are on less minimum is about 45k and we would have quite a few on that DinoPresinger 1
Carns Posted September 22, 2020 Posted September 22, 2020 Youth player minimum wage is almost $48k Over 20 minimum is just over $64k https://www.a-league.com.au/salary-cap-system My guess is the average wage for a journeyman is closer to $100k.
WHACKO Posted September 23, 2020 Posted September 23, 2020 Tomislav Mrcela back to Croatia, early release.
Sithslayer1991 Posted September 24, 2020 Posted September 24, 2020 Seems like when popa leaves a club they fall apart straight after DinoPresinger, Neverbloom and wendybr 3
Neverbloom Posted September 24, 2020 Posted September 24, 2020 On 24/09/2020 at 11:07 AM, Sithslayer1991 said: Seems like when popa leaves a club they fall apart straight after can he sign for sydney fc for a week? EmMac, Sithslayer1991, sonar and 3 others 6
Davo Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Perth saw how much of a shambles our club has become and decided to make the wooden spoon race interesting. sonar, mack, Carns and 2 others 4 1
MathyouWSW Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 I'm going to assume they'll be promoting alot of their youth players this upcoming season? As of this post, they only have 13 players. Also...they have AFC Champions League to still play. Prydzopolis 1
mack Posted October 19, 2020 Author Posted October 19, 2020 Bought back Keogh and Brandon Wilson. MathyouWSW 1
HillsWanderer Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Jonathan Aspropotamitis and Nick Sullivan signed.
MathyouWSW Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 Glory have signed 30 year old Curacaoan defender Daryl Lachman on a two year deal: https://thewest.com.au/sport/perth-glory/perth-glory-sign-imposing-dutch-international-defender-darryl-lachman-ng-b881701723z
MathyouWSW Posted November 15, 2020 Posted November 15, 2020 So they originally released Tando Velaphi...and now he's signed back to Glory. Weird. They have signed Daniel Stynes back to the club (I think he was at Bentleigh Greens) They have promoted Declan Hughes and Luke Bodnar from youth to the senior squad
MathyouWSW Posted November 15, 2020 Posted November 15, 2020 Also forgot to mentioned that injury prone striker Eli Babalj has been training with Perth Glory.
StringerBellend Posted November 15, 2020 Posted November 15, 2020 15 hours ago, MathyouWSW said: Also forgot to mentioned that injury prone striker Eli Babalj has been training with Perth Glory. And people get upset at the recycling League digs
MathyouWSW Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 Looks like Perth Glory could be losing Alex Grant. He has been rumoured to be signing with K-League club FC Seoul.
MathyouWSW Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) According to SoccerStoppageTime, Glory have agreed to sell Alex Grant to K-League club Pohang Steelers. Should be announced in the upcoming days Edited December 11, 2020 by MathyouWSW
MathyouWSW Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 Glory are currently in talks with 33 year old Japanese left back Kosuke Ota. Ota is currently signed with J1 league club Nagoya Grampus
MathyouWSW Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 Glory have signed German defender Sebastian Langkemp
Carns Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 You wonder if he'll be more a Delpierre for Victory or a Ziegler for us.
MathyouWSW Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Carns said: You wonder if he'll be more a Delpierre for Victory or a Ziegler for us. Probably Delpierre? He hasn't scored since 2015 so I'm assuming he just sticks to defending and doesn't come up during corners. Apparently, he had one game as a centre forward according to transfermarkt
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