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Davo

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Suncorp has a capacity of 52k. Their regular tenants are the Broncos and Dolphins (average 2023 attendance of 33k and 25k), the Queensland Reds (average attendance 12k) and the Roar (average attendance 9k). And the plan is to expand Suncorp to 65k and not add a smaller venue?

That would be like Sydney winning the 2000 Olympics and instead of building Homebush just bulldozing Allianz, turning it into an 80k venue, and making the Roosters, Warratahs, and smurfs play out of it.

SBW

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AFL are definitely backing this proposal

Goodbye Gabba? New proposal has Lions on the move
A new proposal could see the Lions move away from the Gabba after the Olympics, rather than be without a home ground for four seasons.

By Michael Whiting
20 hrs ago

BRISBANE could be on the move from the Gabba if a proposed new 70,000-seat stadium for the 2032 Olympic Games gets the green light.

And the Lions are on board.

With less than two weeks remaining in an independent review of the Games venue spending, a local architecture firm has pitched for a drastically upgraded stadium in inner-city Victoria Park.

The current plan was to have the 36,000-seat Gabba demolished late in 2025 and rebuilt in four years at a cost estimated at $2.7 billion ahead of the Games.

This would leave the Lions without a recognised home for up to four seasons.

Under the new proposal, the Lions would stay at the Gabba while the Victoria Park venue is being built, then take over as its major tenant, along with cricket, once the Games are complete.

The Gabba would then be used as a city greenspace.

Brisbane CEO Greg Swann said the Lions were right behind the new idea that would combine the stadium with education and hospital facilities in Victoria Park.

"We’ve seen what Optus Stadium has done in Perth, what happens in Adelaide, those brand new stadiums bring people to the city, are great for tourism, and this place is growing," Swann said.

"In 20 years time, we’ll have four million people (in Brisbane).

"If it doesn’t go ahead, we’d like to see the Gabba get a lick of paint and an upgrade, but it looks like it’s not going to get knocked over now."

The independent review of Games venues, led by former Brisbane Lord Mayor Graham Quirk, will present its findings on March 18.

With a Queensland state election scheduled in October, the final outcome and decision is expected to be some time away.

matty

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54 minutes ago, mack said:

AFL club trying to push for something that makes them more money. What a shocker. 

Won't happen.

Is more likely than not I reckon. 

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Potkorok

Potkorok

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On 06/03/2024 at 8:57 PM, matty said:

Is more likely than not I reckon. 

They're now touting a capacity of 55k at a cost of....wait for it $3.4bn. Apparently the Gabba is in "much worse condition" than they thought - shades of the crap the SCG trust bandied around to get the SFS rebuilt - although compared to the Brisvegas proposal even it looks like a bargain.

Seriously

StringerBellend

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34 minutes ago, MartinTyler said:

Professional sport? That should mean that the Tigers remain there........:xnod:

given that it is such a great made for TV game and fans won't travel from Leichhardt to Surry Hills, maybe they just play all the games in a field with TV cameras around it and don't bother about crowds at all. Long as there is a button to click to gamble who cares

SBW

SBW

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On 18/03/2024 at 12:24 PM, Potkorok said:

They're now touting a capacity of 55k at a cost of....wait for it $3.4bn. Apparently the Gabba is in "much worse condition" than they thought - shades of the crap the SCG trust bandied around to get the SFS rebuilt - although compared to the Brisvegas proposal even it looks like a bargain.

Seriously

Steven Miles is considering redeveloping Suncorp Stadium to host the opening and closing ceremony along with redeveloping the QSAC stadium in Logan to host the the track and field events

Midfielder

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On 28/02/2024 at 3:14 PM, Davo said:

Suncorp has a capacity of 52k. Their regular tenants are the Broncos and Dolphins (average 2023 attendance of 33k and 25k), the Queensland Reds (average attendance 12k) and the Roar (average attendance 9k). And the plan is to expand Suncorp to 65k and not add a smaller venue?

That would be like Sydney winning the 2000 Olympics and instead of building Homebush just bulldozing Allianz, turning it into an 80k venue, and making the Roosters, Warratahs, and smurfs play out of it.

cough cough, but Suncorp play league in a league state, the Gabba would help AFL.... 

SBW

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Minns rejects Tigers’ plea for Leichhardt Oval funding

Balmain Tigers may have to deliver on their promise to vacate Leichhardt Oval at the end of the year after the NSW government refused their request to fund an upgrade.

The Tigers will play five of their 12 home games this season at Leichhardt Oval but have long held concerns about the condition and facilities at the hallowed inner-west ground.

Leichhardt has insufficient change rooms to host NRL men’s and women’s double-headers, regularly features some of the NRL’s longest queues for refreshments, and pales in comparison to other Sydney stadiums for corporate and media facilities.

On Monday, Tigers chief executive Shane Richardson and Inner West Council Mayor Darcy Byrne banded together to request Leichhardt Oval receive 10 per cent of the funding allocated to Penrith’s stadium upgrade by the NSW government.

The Panthers’ BlueBet Stadium will receive a $309 million facelift in 2025 that expands the ground’s capacity to 25,000 with an all-new western grandstand and refurbished eastern grandstand.

Panthers coach Ivan Cleary defended the funding.

“Everyone is scrambling for political money. We’ve had to work long and hard for ours and we’re happy to have it [a new stadium], and our community deserve it,” Cleary said on Tuesday.

“I’m not saying their [community] doesn’t either. What I do know is I got the feeling at Leichhardt that everyone there loves it the way it is. Maybe they should keep it that way.”

The Tigers, who have also hosted home games at CommBank Stadium, Campbelltown Stadium and Accor Stadium in recent years, have yet to commit to a home ground beyond this year.

Richardson threatened to move the Tigers out of Leichhardt altogether if the request went unfulfilled, having relocated South Sydney’s home games from Moore Park to Homebush during his time in charge of that club.

But on Tuesday, NSW Premier Chris Minns pointed to the state’s financial situation as grounds for blocking the Tigers’ audacious request.

“I appreciate that [the Tigers] have got to make a decision about their club and where they play their home games,” Minns said.

“But we, as everybody knows, have got $180 billion worth of debt in NSW.

“We’ve got massive pressure on the hospital system, education system [and] in addition to that we’re rolling out the biggest public transport projects in the state’s history.”

Leichhardt Oval’s status as a part-time NRL venue also influenced Minns’ decision.

This season, the Tigers are playing five of their 12 home games at Campbelltown Sports Stadium, one at Scully Park in Tamworth and one at Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium as part of Magic Round.

“I don’t have spare dollars at the moment to pump into Leichhardt Oval, particularly as the Tigers’ games are split between those two home grounds [Campbelltown and Leichhardt],” Minns said.

“My real fear is that we put money into Leichhardt and the week afterwards they say now we need the money for Campbelltown.

“These things have got to be finely balanced and I’d love to have the spare revenue to pump into a suburban stadium at the moment, but I don’t have it.”

The inner-western Sydney venue known to league fans as “the Eighth Wonder of the World” hosted memorable scenes on Saturday night as 15,990 fans celebrated Benji Marshall’s first win as a head coach after the game against Cronulla.

However, Richardson said he received several complaints from families over the “terrible” conditions at the ground, with many citing long toilet queues and poor language and behaviour on the hill.

Byrne said Leichhardt Oval “hasn’t received any funding from the state government since Benji Marshall was in nappies”.

Richardson revealed he had been reduced to hosing down his players after games on two occasions during his time as CEO of a rival club visiting Leichhardt, because “the hot-water system and showers weren’t working”.

The Tigers have 8000 members and want to grow that number to 13,000 by the end of next year, with the objective to reach 30,000.

They have no home ground for next year, with Richardson keen to have something nailed down “in the next 60 to 90 days”.

“The conditions on Saturday night were terrible,” Richardson said. “If something is not done very quickly about securing [funding for] Leichhardt Oval, we simply won’t be playing here.”

Richardson said a viable option would be to relocate up the road at Accor Stadium, while CommBank Stadium was an alternative for 2025 – though “it’s Parramatta’s stadium at this stage”.

Davo

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However, Richardson said he received several complaints from families over the “terrible” conditions at the ground, with many citing long toilet queues and poor language and behaviour on the hill.

Why weren't the riot police there to enforce the family friendly atmosphere?

 

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SBW

SBW

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kind of agree we need a state of the art stadiums but the big stadiums just won't do, need smaller boutique stadiums, capacity of 20-22k is just more than enough these days and they won't need to cost much to re-furn or re-develop

As for the Brisbane Olympics, it just seems that the Qld government went in with no plans at all, much like the Victorian Comm games

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SBW

SBW

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Which option do you think the current Qld Government are planning to go with?

$3.4b to build a brand new 80k stadium in Victoria Park along with an indoor arena, indoor pool and probably have the most state of the art facilities in the country.

Or $4.5b plan to redevelop the QSAC in logan with a 60k capacity which would cost $1.6b, then revamp it again with a reduced capacity of 14k post olympics, a brand new indoor arena in Roma St for $2.5b + $400m for rail infrastructure and this does not include an indoor pool.

MartinTyler

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54 minutes ago, SBW said:

Which option do you think the current Qld Government are planning to go with?

$3.4b to build a brand new 80k stadium in Victoria Park along with an indoor arena, indoor pool and probably have the most state of the art facilities in the country.

Or $4.5b plan to redevelop the QSAC in logan with a 60k capacity which would cost $1.6b, then revamp it again with a reduced capacity of 14k post olympics, a brand new indoor arena in Roma St for $2.5b + $400m for rail infrastructure and this does not include an indoor pool.

I'm hoping they announce a redevelopment of QSAC.....I've just put an investment property on the market within a stone's throw. :D

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pseudonym

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Just now, theguyyouwishyouwere said:

Not really an issue for us because we're not good enough to play finals.

True - I was thinking of the second half of next season when the pitch gets scratched up

StringerBellend

StringerBellend

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1 hour ago, pseudonym said:

True - I was thinking of the second half of next season when the pitch gets scratched up

That bit of the season when we lose all our home games in front of about 6532 people 

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SBW

SBW

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Finally, a $40 million lifeline for Leichhardt Oval

Megan Gorrey
June 14, 2024 — 5.00am

Sydney’s tired Leichhardt Oval will undergo a $40 million overhaul to add a new grandstand and female-friendly change rooms after state and federal governments vowed to help fund the project.

The rundown inner west sports ground has been desperately in need of a makeover, but state and federal governments have previously failed to agree on whether to help the local council pay for them. Paint is peeling off the western grandstand and some toilets are so dilapidated they have been shut for years. In 2022, a railing collapsed mid-match, sending spectators crashing to the ground.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will announce on Friday the Commonwealth will chip in $20 million for the plan, while the NSW government and Inner West Council will each spend $10 million.

Announcing the funding for the project on Thursday, Albanese, who is the local MP in the seat of Grayndler, said there was “nothing better than sitting on Wayne Pearce Hill at Leichhardt Oval”.

“Leichhardt Oval is a place where the faithful can go along and cheer their local sporting teams, and this funding from all three levels of government will ensure that spirit is preserved.”

The project, which will be led by the council, will boost the oval’s seating capacity by 3000.

Premier Chris Minns last month said he was “open” to chipping in some funds, after previously saying there was no way the state’s financial position would enable it to foot a $30 million bill for a major facelift of the stadium.

NSW Sports Minister Steve Kamper on Thursday said the funds would “future-proof” the oval and provide “fit-for-purpose facilities for the next generation of elite, amateur and grassroots athletes”.

“Whilst Leichhardt Oval is the spiritual home of the Balmain Tigers, this oval has become much more than that. It has become a true community hub and a home for women’s sport.”

In a joint statement, Albanese, Kamper and federal Sport Minister Annika Wells said the “critical” upgrades to the stadium would ensure the safety and comfort of fans and competitors.

“[The oval] has become increasingly expensive to maintain, and significant upgrades are required to ensure it can continue to host elite, amateur and grassroots sporting events and training.

“It is critical we invest in iconic local sporting venues like Leichhardt Oval for the benefit of players, spectators and the wider community,” the statement said.

The venue played a significant role in Australian sport and was on track to host 120 sporting fixtures in 2024, including both men’s and women’s national rugby league matches.

“These venues are a platform for elite women and girls’ sporting competitions, such as NRLW and Women’s A League.”

The council has been spending about $1.4 million per year on Leichhardt in both maintenance and capital works.

That spending includes recent upgrades to the existing change rooms and toilet facilities.

But Mayor Darcy Byrne has repeatedly said the council does not have the funds to pay for the kind of upgrades necessary for the oval to remain a viable NRL venue.

Instead, in 2023 the council devised a masterplan for the oval and called for state and federal government assistance in paying for it.

Leichhardt Oval’s most prominent tenant, the Balmain Tigers, have so far refused to commit to its future at the venue.

StringerBellend

StringerBellend

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2 hours ago, SBW said:

Finally, a $40 million lifeline for Leichhardt Oval

Megan Gorrey
June 14, 2024 — 5.00am

Sydney’s tired Leichhardt Oval will undergo a $40 million overhaul to add a new grandstand and female-friendly change rooms after state and federal governments vowed to help fund the project.

The rundown inner west sports ground has been desperately in need of a makeover, but state and federal governments have previously failed to agree on whether to help the local council pay for them. Paint is peeling off the western grandstand and some toilets are so dilapidated they have been shut for years. In 2022, a railing collapsed mid-match, sending spectators crashing to the ground.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will announce on Friday the Commonwealth will chip in $20 million for the plan, while the NSW government and Inner West Council will each spend $10 million.

Announcing the funding for the project on Thursday, Albanese, who is the local MP in the seat of Grayndler, said there was “nothing better than sitting on Wayne Pearce Hill at Leichhardt Oval”.

“Leichhardt Oval is a place where the faithful can go along and cheer their local sporting teams, and this funding from all three levels of government will ensure that spirit is preserved.”

The project, which will be led by the council, will boost the oval’s seating capacity by 3000.

Premier Chris Minns last month said he was “open” to chipping in some funds, after previously saying there was no way the state’s financial position would enable it to foot a $30 million bill for a major facelift of the stadium.

NSW Sports Minister Steve Kamper on Thursday said the funds would “future-proof” the oval and provide “fit-for-purpose facilities for the next generation of elite, amateur and grassroots athletes”.

“Whilst Leichhardt Oval is the spiritual home of the Balmain Tigers, this oval has become much more than that. It has become a true community hub and a home for women’s sport.”

In a joint statement, Albanese, Kamper and federal Sport Minister Annika Wells said the “critical” upgrades to the stadium would ensure the safety and comfort of fans and competitors.

“[The oval] has become increasingly expensive to maintain, and significant upgrades are required to ensure it can continue to host elite, amateur and grassroots sporting events and training.

“It is critical we invest in iconic local sporting venues like Leichhardt Oval for the benefit of players, spectators and the wider community,” the statement said.

The venue played a significant role in Australian sport and was on track to host 120 sporting fixtures in 2024, including both men’s and women’s national rugby league matches.

“These venues are a platform for elite women and girls’ sporting competitions, such as NRLW and Women’s A League.”

The council has been spending about $1.4 million per year on Leichhardt in both maintenance and capital works.

That spending includes recent upgrades to the existing change rooms and toilet facilities.

But Mayor Darcy Byrne has repeatedly said the council does not have the funds to pay for the kind of upgrades necessary for the oval to remain a viable NRL venue.

Instead, in 2023 the council devised a masterplan for the oval and called for state and federal government assistance in paying for it.

Leichhardt Oval’s most prominent tenant, the Balmain Tigers, have so far refused to commit to its future at the venue.

Put Apia into the A League, they are way more ready than Canberra.

 

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SBW

SBW

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Is this what Brisbane are really thinking for the 2032 Olympic Stadium?

 

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WSWJACK

WSWJACK

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16 hours ago, Davo said:

Smart. Make a stadium in Queensland without a roof so you can rake in that sweet merch money from selling hats.

Even better, get Bunnings as a sponsor, straw hats, pop up gazebos, folding chairs and coolers and blankets on the hill, the full little athletics vibe.

The world watching on their telly would be left in no doubt it’s in Australia, “Oi leave our bloody flies alone “

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