New Parramatta Stadium Revealed

[marron]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/09/wanderers-green-light-safe-standing-new-stadium

 

 

 

 

 

Safe standing gets the go ahead. Wonder how many bays in reality.

[Swanderer]

Great post re the "KOP" Wswboro. Note most of the stadiums in the North. It was Lancashire regiments that took care of the butchers bill that day. A unique memorial to the fallen really........

[braad]

John T has said they're fighting for safe standing. I'm assuming that means it isn't a certainty yet

[Smoggy]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/09/wanderers-green-light-safe-standing-new-stadium

 

 

 

 

 

Safe standing gets the go ahead. Wonder how many bays in reality.

 

So safe standing is approved!!!     

 

3 years on and my son will almost be a teenager and I reckon he will be wanting to be in the safe standing area. Really happy for the lad that he will get to experience standing on a proper terrace like I did growing up, thankfully without the crumbling concrete and high fences...safe standing area will be so ******* popular, will be rammed every home game. I might even have to consider joining the lad and getting active 

 

This is going to be so awesome and ground breaking for a stadium in Australia. Still can't believe we have safe standing!

 

Also i needs to be the whole stand behind the goal otherwise what is the point?

Edited December 8, 2016 by WSWBoro

[HillsWanderer]

 

The kids were so excited when I showed them the video of the new stadium.

Until they asked 'But where's the pool?'.

Followed by 'Where are we going to have our swimming carnivals?'.

 

Just tell it to them how it is.... no more swimming carnivals, no more Parramatta pool, its over. I hope that this pool protest thing doesn't go on too long, can't stand the whinging. Just **** off to another pool and stop getting in the way of progress, get the bulldozers revved up and roll on in.....

 

My kids will get over it. After 2019 we will all forget that there was a pool there.

[Posthoc]

 

The kids were so excited when I showed them the video of the new stadium.

Until they asked 'But where's the pool?'.

Followed by 'Where are we going to have our swimming carnivals?'.

 

Has anybody heard if the planned move of the pool to the old Parramatta Golf Club will happen?

 

 

From what i have heard Nothing official, but the site of Parramatta Golf Course is the likely new home of Parramatta pools

[MartinTyler]

 

 

 

How many people do you reckon think the "Kop" end will hold? I'm guessing like 8k.

Don't call it that

lol you know full well there are heaps of stadiums with a Kop.

 

And now we're getting one.

 

Kop Kop Kop

 

 

As well as multiple Kops there was also a time when many 'ends' sang YNWA...

[Gazmon]

 

 

The kids were so excited when I showed them the video of the new stadium.

Until they asked 'But where's the pool?'.

Followed by 'Where are we going to have our swimming carnivals?'.

 

Just tell it to them how it is.... no more swimming carnivals, no more Parramatta pool, its over. I hope that this pool protest thing doesn't go on too long, can't stand the whinging. Just **** off to another pool and stop getting in the way of progress, get the bulldozers revved up and roll on in.....

 

My kids will get over it. After 2019 we will all forget that there was a pool there.

 

 

What's a pool?

[FCWanderers]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/09/wanderers-green-light-safe-standing-new-stadiumSafe standing gets the go ahead. Wonder how many bays in reality.

The Lendlease press release states that the capacity will be 1000 people, 1 or 2 bays at most.

[Gazmon]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/09/wanderers-green-light-safe-standing-new-stadiumSafe standing gets the go ahead. Wonder how many bays in reality.

The Lendlease press release states that the capacity will be 1000 people, 1 or 2 bays at most.

 

 

2-bays at least I'd say. Each bay, assuming has 24-seats across (fairly standard), goes back roughly 20 rows. That's 480 per bay, so 2 bays sounds about right.

[Flytox]

 

 

The kids were so excited when I showed them the video of the new stadium.

Until they asked 'But where's the pool?'.

Followed by 'Where are we going to have our swimming carnivals?'.

 

Has anybody heard if the planned move of the pool to the old Parramatta Golf Club will happen?

 

 

 

All I've heard is that a replacement pool will be built on the next couple of years. Current one looks a bit dated anyway but the Govt could have done a better job of selling that idea and not piss off the residents.

 

From the Parramatta Advertiser:-

 

 

Mr Baird was asked about the lack of a public swimming pool — the current pool is due to be demolished as part of the stadium rebuild and a new one could take two years to build.

He told the Advertiser: “We’re aware of the public consensus about the pool closing but it will stay open until at least March this year and we are going to build a new pool as soon as possible.â€

 

–– ADVERTISEMENT ––

 

 

A spokesman for Infrastructure NSW said planning and scoping was already underway for a new pool.

 

[Smoggy]

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/09/wanderers-green-light-safe-standing-new-stadiumSafe standing gets the go ahead. Wonder how many bays in reality.

The Lendlease press release states that the capacity will be 1000 people, 1 or 2 bays at most.

 

 

2-bays at least I'd say. Each bay, assuming has 24-seats across (fairly standard), goes back roughly 20 rows. That's 480 per bay, so 2 bays sounds about right.

 

 

2 bays pfffttttttt, whole of that stand behind the goal or what is the point! Assuming the safe standing is at the 'kop' end then the active will just spill out of a couple of bays of safe standing and you will have bays full of 'unsafe' standing around it.

Edited December 9, 2016 by WSWBoro

[Prydzopolis]

The biggest issue regarding the new pool is who is going to pay for it? Parramatta council is already pissed that they've put significant funds (millions) into refurbishing the pool on the current site which will now be demolished.

[Smoggy]

We shouldn't be dismayed about there only being 1k of safe standing. After the stadium is finished and all stakeholders realise how beneficial it is, I'm guessing there will be a greater amount installed

 

Or once they realise that having such a small safe standing area amongst a greater active area won't work they will increase it, but how about they just do the hard yards now and do it properly first time.

[Prydzopolis]

We shouldn't be dismayed about there only being 1k of safe standing. Once all stakeholders realise how beneficial it is, I'm guessing there will be a greater amount installed

The problem is that it is much harder to do when the stadium is already built. With safe standing already in place, aisle widths, row depths, exits will be appropriately sized.

Or once they realise that having such a small safe standing area amongst a greater active area won't work they will increase it, but how about they just do the hard yards now and do it properly first time.

Same logic with a 27k + 3k stadium

[JackDoff]

 

 

The kids were so excited when I showed them the video of the new stadium.

Until they asked 'But where's the pool?'.

Followed by 'Where are we going to have our swimming carnivals?'.

 

 

Has anybody heard if the planned move of the pool to the old Parramatta Golf Club will happen?

 

From what i have heard Nothing official, but the site of Parramatta Golf Course is the likely new home of Parramatta pools

So won't the golfing fraternity complain now about losing ground for the pool? Or are they relocating the golf course?

WTF , we live in the 6th? largest country in the world, but there's never enough room for a pissy little pool or a fuucking golf course??!!! .....or a motor racing circuits, stadia , airports etc etc etc

[Prydzopolis]

Jack the golf course is no longer functional, is now just apart of the parramatta park trust

 

 

We shouldn't be dismayed about there only being 1k of safe standing. Once all stakeholders realise how beneficial it is, I'm guessing there will be a greater amount installed

The problem is that it is much harder to do when the stadium is already built. With safe standing already in place, aisle widths, row depths, exits will be appropriately sized.

I watched a video of workers installing them at Celtic Park, it didn't appear to be overly complicated?

Fair enough, was told that it wasn't just a simple case of removing the seats & putting in the rails

 

Double check with Pablo Bateson on twitter, he was following the safe standing stuff overseas a lot closer than I was

[Smoggy]

Jack the golf course is no longer functional, is now just apart of the parramatta park trust

 

 

We shouldn't be dismayed about there only being 1k of safe standing. Once all stakeholders realise how beneficial it is, I'm guessing there will be a greater amount installed

The problem is that it is much harder to do when the stadium is already built. With safe standing already in place, aisle widths, row depths, exits will be appropriately sized.

I watched a video of workers installing them at Celtic Park, it didn't appear to be overly complicated?

Fair enough, was told that it wasn't just a simple case of removing the seats & putting in the rails

 

 

It depends on if the terrace was built to accommodate rail seating / standing. There has been a big push from fans at the Riverside Stadium in the Boro to get safe standing. But it would cost a fortune because the stadium was built as an all seater and the terrace step configuration means that the steps / rake would need a total reconfiguration to accommodate safe standing, at least this is what Boro fans are being told. If the whole of the kop end is built to the same configuration then they should be able to easily rip the seats out and convert to safe standing with rail seats.

 

If they ever wanted safe standing at Allianz they would need to reconfigure the whole terrace with regards it's steps and rake otherwise wouldn't work there.

Edited December 9, 2016 by WSWBoro

[Flytox]

The golf course site was leased from the Park so they were looking at what it could be used for anyway.

[JackDoff]

Jack the golf course is no longer functional, is now just apart of the parramatta park trust

 

 

We shouldn't be dismayed about there only being 1k of safe standing. Once all stakeholders realise how beneficial it is, I'm guessing there will be a greater amount installed

The problem is that it is much harder to do when the stadium is already built. With safe standing already in place, aisle widths, row depths, exits will be appropriately sized.

I watched a video of workers installing them at Celtic Park, it didn't appear to be overly complicated?

Fair enough, was told that it wasn't just a simple case of removing the seats & putting in the rails

So there IS room to rebuild the pool? So why are they fuucking complaining???!!! Go fuucking swim somewhere else for a few years , the beach maybe we're surrounded by water!!!!! FFS!! If we have to put up with SOP for 3 seasons they can too!!!

[Smoggy]

 

Jack the golf course is no longer functional, is now just apart of the parramatta park trust

 

 

We shouldn't be dismayed about there only being 1k of safe standing. Once all stakeholders realise how beneficial it is, I'm guessing there will be a greater amount installed

The problem is that it is much harder to do when the stadium is already built. With safe standing already in place, aisle widths, row depths, exits will be appropriately sized.

I watched a video of workers installing them at Celtic Park, it didn't appear to be overly complicated?

Fair enough, was told that it wasn't just a simple case of removing the seats & putting in the rails

So there IS room to rebuild the pool? So why are they fuucking complaining???!!! Go fuucking swim somewhere else for a few years , the beach maybe we're surrounded by water!!!!! FFS!! If we have to put up with SOP for 3 seasons they can too!!!

 

 

There is a ******* river right next to the ground........

[JackDoff]

 

 

Jack the golf course is no longer functional, is now just apart of the parramatta park trust

 

 

 

We shouldn't be dismayed about there only being 1k of safe standing. Once all stakeholders realise how beneficial it is, I'm guessing there will be a greater amount installed

 

The problem is that it is much harder to do when the stadium is already built. With safe standing already in place, aisle widths, row depths, exits will be appropriately sized.

I watched a video of workers installing them at Celtic Park, it didn't appear to be overly complicated?

Fair enough, was told that it wasn't just a simple case of removing the seats & putting in the rails

So there IS room to rebuild the pool? So why are they fuucking complaining???!!! Go fuucking swim somewhere else for a few years , the beach maybe we're surrounded by water!!!!! FFS!! If we have to put up with SOP for 3 seasons they can too!!!

 

 

There is a ******* river right next to the ground........

Eww! I don't know about swimming in that though! ......then again , I don't give a rats!!

[Smoggy]

 

 

 

Jack the golf course is no longer functional, is now just apart of the parramatta park trust

 

 

We shouldn't be dismayed about there only being 1k of safe standing. Once all stakeholders realise how beneficial it is, I'm guessing there will be a greater amount installed

The problem is that it is much harder to do when the stadium is already built. With safe standing already in place, aisle widths, row depths, exits will be appropriately sized.

I watched a video of workers installing them at Celtic Park, it didn't appear to be overly complicated?

Fair enough, was told that it wasn't just a simple case of removing the seats & putting in the rails

So there IS room to rebuild the pool? So why are they fuucking complaining???!!! Go fuucking swim somewhere else for a few years , the beach maybe we're surrounded by water!!!!! FFS!! If we have to put up with SOP for 3 seasons they can too!!!

 

 

There is a ******* river right next to the ground........

Eww! I don't know about swimming in that though! ......then again , I don't give a rats!!

 

 

If we have to put up with SOP for 3 years they can put up with a bit of storm water sewage run off for a few years.....similar experience really,

[Prydzopolis]

Jack & Boro, like two grumpy old men complaining

[Smoggy]

Jack & Boro, like two grumpy old men complaining

 

Old no.... grumpy most definitely yes lol

 

Jack ticks both boxes through   

[JackDoff]

 

Jack & Boro, like two grumpy old men complaining

 

 

Old no.... grumpy most definitely yes lol

 

Jack ticks both boxes through   

[Prydzopolis]

It depends on if the terrace was built to accommodate rail seating / standing. There has been a big push from fans at the Riverside Stadium in the Boro to get safe standing. But it would cost a fortune because the stadium was built as an all seater and the terrace step configuration means that the steps / rake would need a total reconfiguration to accommodate safe standing, at least this is what Boro fans are being told. If the whole of the kop end is built to the same configuration then they should be able to easily rip the seats out and convert to safe standing with rail seats. Government trying to spend least amount of money possible.

 

If they ever wanted safe standing at Allianz they would need to reconfigure the whole terrace with regards it's steps and rake otherwise wouldn't work there.

Would require them to spend more money now to make it configured for safe standing. Same argument for building in extra capacity into stadium for extra seats.

 

Wait wasn't it the same argument that those Spotless idiots were using for the RBB that they were going to break the stands?

[ReticentWarrior]

 

We shouldn't be dismayed about there only being 1k of safe standing. After the stadium is finished and all stakeholders realise how beneficial it is, I'm guessing there will be a greater amount installed

 

Or once they realise that having such a small safe standing area amongst a greater active area won't work they will increase it, but how about they just do the hard yards now and do it properly first time.

 

 

Can be said for all of Sydney really, M5, M2, M4, Parramatta, Victoria, Canterbury roads etc, etc, etc. No vi$ion

[marron]

re: the safe standing config

 

I would imagine like people have said it's about the rake and then the egress for extra people. 

 

The rake is fixed across the north end it would appear. They wouldn't have a different rake for the safe standing area only, surely.

 

So then it's about the egress only. 

 

Keep in mind as well they could have safe standing but still only allow numbers that they would allow for fully seated.

 

Also - we really have only ever had about 2 full bays worth of totally active people in the RBB. We can dream about a whole end with it - and yes it would encourage more people to get active, probably, but yeah. Remember as well that whatever we say the eels are a stakeholder too in this and they were dead set against safe standing at all. I reckon this is a win and as long as the design has the egress sorted - and if you look at it, it looks like they'll be able to just throw open wide areas that go directly out onto the "boulevard" or whatever it's called - there's a good chance for expanding it out if there's a case for it.

[Smoggy]

re: the safe standing config

 

I would imagine like people have said it's about the rake and then the egress for extra people.

 

The rake is fixed across the north end it would appear. They wouldn't have a different rake for the safe standing area only, surely.

 

So then it's about the egress only.

 

Keep in mind as well they could have safe standing but still only allow numbers that they would allow for fully seated.

 

Also - we really have only ever had about 2 full bays worth of totally active people in the RBB. We can dream about a whole end with it - and yes it would encourage more people to get active, probably, but yeah. Remember as well that whatever we say the eels are a stakeholder too in this and they were dead set against safe standing at all. I reckon this is a win and as long as the design has the egress sorted - and if you look at it, it looks like they'll be able to just throw open wide areas that go directly out onto the "boulevard" or whatever it's called - there's a good chance for expanding it out if there's a case for it.

The safe standing area will be VERY VERY popular.. nailed on season ticket sellout area the first day on sale....

 

With the hype and excitement over the new stadium a whole end of safe standing would be sold out for sure, just for the initial novelty of, 1000 standing spaces aint gonna be enough....

Edited December 9, 2016 by WSWBoro