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Horus

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I just saw this headline and my first reaction was to think of our Santa.

 

 

Bad Santa Santa runs from brothel blaze

 

 

That about sums up his 2 match suspension for the red

 

 

So if Santa gets 2 for that weak s**t - what will Brandan and Djulbic get?

 

Of does Brandan get the special citeh discount?

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Edinburgh

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I just saw this headline and my first reaction was to think of our Santa.

 

 Bad Santa Santa runs from brothel blaze

 

That about sums up his 2 match suspension for the red

 

So if Santa gets 2 for that weak s**t - what will Brandan and Djulbic get?

 

Of does Brandan get the special citeh discount?

Brandan got 2 weeks and Djulbic 3 weeks

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I notice a trend of players now going nuts after the game when a microphone is put in their face and blaming everyone but their own team for losing or not winning.

 

There was Neil Kilkenny a few days ago, and today MV women's team lost to Canberra United. They interviewed on ABC TV the MV captain after the game. "Something has to be done about the refS. This just can't keep going on blah blah". But Canberra United were given a penalty in the last few minutes which WAS a penalty. Just seems like players throwing tantrums because they didn't win.

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jdrudd91

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The Cock finishing off this wonderful year with a giant steaming pile of bull***

 

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/the-trouble-with-football-and-the-media-20161228-gtj3vn.html

 

My New Year's wish for football? I'll make it personal. Football needs to reboot its relationship with professional media, a fourth estate which, believe it or not, still has a vital role to play in shaping the destiny of the game.

The game plan of the game's custodians – largely the FFA and the A-League clubs – in dealing with the mainstream media is to slavishly copy the template of rival sports. Tell them nothing, unless you absolutely have to. Keep them at a safe distance. Micro-manage the message.

Trouble is, in terms of coverage, football is not at the level of AFL, rugby league and cricket, and is only just edging ahead of rugby. If football wants to get there, then it needs to take the media along for the ride.

So which media is that I hear you ask? The so-called "legacy" media, which many like to assume, or perhaps fantasise, has by that definition had its day? Or "new" media – Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Snapchat – which we keep getting told by the Gen Y spin doctors is going to take over this space. Only it hasn't. And won't be for quite a while, if you look past the hype and take note of the numbers.

"Legacy" media – fundamentally major broadcasters, major newspaper companies and a selection of radio stations – still draws in substantial audiences. The numbers, of course, are rubbery wherever you look, but there's no doubt they're more certifiable in the context of the "legacy" media. The best of a dubious bunch, in truth. And if you factor in demographics – regular "legacy" media-consumers (roughly the 40-plus age group) will be the largest proportion of Australia's population for the next three decades – then there's plenty of life left in the legacy.

So the professionals in the football media – an ever-decreasing bunch I know – are just as relevant as ever. Perhaps more so, given they, at least, have some form of proper training and thus have a responsibility in terms of accuracy, balance, accountability and legality. I can hear the guffaws from here, but when you stack it up against the untested, unattributed, unsourced and often defamatory "information" peddled in many sections of the "new" media, it looks good by comparison. By all means new media needs to be engaged (and there are outstanding people on some of these platforms) but not as fervently as many seem to think.

Why does this matter? Because if you are a consumer of football in this country, you deserve as much of the truth as possible, as often as possible. Quality and quantity.

What we've got instead is an increasingly desperate group of professionals, sometimes an angry one, looking for the truth in places where it's harder to find it because they've been marginalised. Cut out of the loop. Slowly, but surely, their interest is waning. What then?

When I began writing in these pages, dressing rooms were open, inviting and challenging. Challenging in the sense that hard heads like David Ratcliffe, John Kosmina and Gary McDowall would never miss the chance to put you in your place. But if you did your job, there was mutual respect, and from that the truth would emerge. And the best stories are always the true ones. The key was the relationship.

Touring with national teams meant sharing planes, sharing hotels, sharing meals, sharing bus rides to the stadium and – occasionally – sharing the training pitch if you were asked to bring your boots. Again, if you did your job, the truth would emerge.

What do we get now? In the A-League dressing rooms are forbidden territory, training sessions are often closed, players and coaches hardly ever hand out their phone numbers, and the media shuffle from press conference to press conference like zombies to be fed the party line by players or coaches who have been trained to say nothing, and look even more disinterested by the experience. There is virtually no relationship at all.

Touring with the national team has at least improved because Ange Postecoglou has a far more understanding attitude than his predecessors. But the damage has been done. Forget a mini-bus, you can fit the travelling media corps in a convertible, and cost-cutting is only part of the problem.

So it's time to take stock. The professional media is not perfect, or blameless, or universally scrupulous. Far from it. But it remains the best vehicle the game has to promote itself, whether it likes it or not.

Steven Lowy, David Gallop, A-League bosses, coaches, and players need to drop their guard and take the risk of re-engaging. I mean truly re-engaging. I mean telling a lot more of the truth. Gallop reckons the key difference between the football media and the rugby league media he dealt with in a past life is that football media professionals, by and large, have a missionary zeal. So the "risk" of re-establishing a relationship would be worth it in the long run, wouldn't you think?

Self-interest? Self-indulgent? Is that what this is about, I hear you ask. I'd like to think not. I'm in the rare, privileged, position of being able to do my own thing. But I see only troubled times ahead if the game doesn't address the problem.

If the game's powerbrokers expect to get where they say they want to be, then rebuilding trust, even friendships, with my colleagues is a good place to start. Being talked about might be uncomfortable, but it sure beats not being talked about at all.

 
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FCWanderers

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/dancers-share-soccers-footwork-spirit-and-grievances/news-story/4d4622334eaae095e2c8cce08fca1a63

 

Upcoming Sydney Festival performance mixing dance and football especially the issues around women's football. Apparently they have some input from Matildas players and the Wanderers W league team. Even Mel McLaughlin is involved in the performance as a commentator.

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MartinTyler

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Geelong Stadium get field markings wrong before Melbourne Victory v Newcastle Jets

 

Apparently fixing the lines 55min before kickoff

 

This and the Suncorp Stadium manager believing that last weeks playing surface 'ticked all the boxes', I shudder to think how we would have coped hosting a World Cup.

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"But I’m equally tired of the moral outrage about “Australian values†on the sporting field. You mean liked sledging opponents about their weight, or their wife? (Cricket), You mean like belting seven bells out of each other, the public, or their girlfriends? (League) You mean like throwing bananas from the stands at black players, or regular run-ins with the law over illicit drugs? (AFL). Well, if those are the values we are aspiring to, then I’ll take the odd bit of simulation thanks. It might be embarrassing and against the rules, but at least it’s not an actual crime."

 

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StringerBellend

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How great is Lawrie McKinna?

What'd he do?

Interview on Shootout. He's just ace, seems like such a genuine person and loves his football. Talked a lot about rebuilding the jets ties to the local community. I'm going to buy his book.

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Definitely agree about the transfers. European clubs lowball us because they think we should just be greatful they're taking an interest in our league. It's another area where Aus football needs a backbone.

 

I like Simon, he's always been clever in the way he talks about the other codes. Just lately though I feel he's gone a bit overboard and just sounds very bitter.

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theguyyouwishyouwere

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Definitely agree about the transfers. European clubs lowball us because they think we should just be greatful they're taking an interest in our league. It's another area where Aus football needs a backbone.

 

I like Simon, he's always been clever in the way he talks about the other codes. Just lately though I feel he's gone a bit overboard and just sounds very bitter.

 

 

it wears everybody down at some point. even that 8ft tall giant of a man simon hill.

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SMELL THE FEAR â€@FearOfFootball  38m38 minutes ago

I know it's late but **** me, every football fan should listen to this. Simon Hill is the king.

 

https://audioboom.com/posts/5457695-simon-hill-on-sportssentral-4-01-2017

 
 

 

I'm halfway through listening to this. Hill is a ******* legend (though I don't agree with him 100% on the flares thing).

 

The host is hiding his disrespect for the game. I'll give him points for at least being willing to hear and respect Simon's view, but his "yeah but" about simulation and his "and it's hard to find a case for the supporters of the game when they themselves can't get their act together to unify enough to support a team" and "what's not on your list is the fans to make it about watching the game and not watching them" show his true colours. He wants to put the boot in, and no doubt in the presence of someone else - likely off-air - he would be more vitriolic.

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Bosi article with a few stats of player numbers

 

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Disappointing: Kerem Bulut's second stint with the Wanderers hasn't worked out as anyone would have hoped.

Disappointing: Kerem Bulut's second stint with the Wanderers hasn't worked out as anyone would have hoped. Photo: Getty Images

Western Sydney Wanderers coach Tony Popovic has defended his club's high turnover of players despite results suggesting their transfer policy may be taking a toll this season.

 

Their approach to the transfer market has historically been a short-term one. Players are often brought in quickly and released abruptly if they don't live up to strict training and performance standards as Popovic regularly displays his ability to get the most out of players in brief stints. It's a system that has worked well for them in the past, but perhaps only up to a point as the club is struggling in a disappointing season that began with a large squad overhaul and looks to be salvaged with yet another in the January transfer window.

 

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Over the past two-and-a-half seasons, no club has used more players than Western Sydney Wanderers in the A-League. In total, 62 have worn the red and black stripes since their Asian Champions League triumph in 2014, sparking the most turbulent period in their short history. Melbourne City gave 58 players minutes in the A-League though a larger proportion were youth players given less than a handful of appearances. In the same time frame, Newcastle Jets endured a squad mutiny but used 50 players in that time frame, four more than Sydney FC.

 

The Wanderers' unrivalled use of players had varied success. They won a continental title before narrowly avoiding the wooden spoon. They bounced-back to finish second in the league and reach a third grand final before becoming stuck in the mid-table of their current campaign.

 

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A season that has provided just two wins began as many others did – with a squad overhaul. Sixteen players headed for the exits including youngsters, high quality foreigners and club stalwarts such as captain Nikolai Topor-Stanley by the close of the first transfer window. Popovic admits not all those departures were planned or desired and the timing put Western Sydney in a difficult position of assembling a squad with little notice.

 

"Sometimes you make changes because you want to, which we did two years ago, we wanted to make wholesale changes," Popovic said. "This year's been slightly different, players leave and you want to support three very good players, servants of our club that left us very late in preseason so circumstances are very different so it's not always in your control when players leave."

 

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High turnover: Tony Popovic has defended the Wanderers' record.

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As performances and results failed to match pre-season expectations, two more had already left the club by the first day of the January transfer window. Striker Kerem Bulut and goalkeeper Andrew Redmayne started their round one clash against Sydney FC but were deemed surplus to requirements less than 13 games later.

 

Goalkeeper Vedran Janjetovic and attacking midfielder Terry Antonis are the first mid-season reinforcements and could become players number 63 and 64 if they make their club debuts against Melbourne City on Friday night. A search for a new striker remains ongoing with Eli Babalj on trial and it's likely the club will use their 65th player in three years by the end of the season.

 

More than any other, the club has benefited from short-term signings. Bulut's first stint was just that in 2015. Goalkeeper Liam Reddy was brought in to replace Redmayne last season before leaving six games later. Japanese duo Yojiro Takahagi and Yusuke Tanaka provided some momentary relief in a short spell in 2015.

 

In this instance, however, Popovic does not believe the rotation door is attributing to their form, rather issues of experience and fortune in front of goal.

 

"We've never mentioned that players not being here is a problem in terms of results. We've got a good group, a lot of young players coming through. Young players take time but we've been in every single match that we've played this year, we just have to turn the draws into wins," Popovic said.

 

The club is still a strong chance of making the finals but their hopes of doing so look to rely heavily on signing more players for the final 14 games. It may just get them there but two of the most consistent clubs in recent years have used the least players. Just 38 represented Brisbane Roar and 39 played for Melbourne Victory. Both are on course for a third successive finals appearance, making their claims that the shortest burn may not always be the brightest

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braad

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SMELL THE FEAR â€@FearOfFootball  38m38 minutes ago

 

I know it's late but **** me, every football fan should listen to this. Simon Hill is the king.

 

https://audioboom.com/posts/5457695-simon-hill-on-sportssentral-4-01-2017

 

A good interview. He's fighting the tough fight. Taking it to a sports show in Melbourne... good on him

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