Nikita Rukavytsya

DCWSW · February 24, 2015

just about everytime he gets on the ball you have no idea what he's going to do. its exiting, its what I want to watch. I don't want to watch robots play football - that would be boring. for me, ruka is at least as exiting as hersi was - he just hasn't had the luck that hersi had on the ball. those fluke goals that hersi scored - ruka has missed. that's really the only difference for mine.

I would take ruka's pace and temperament over hersi's injury-prone(ness?) and shocking temperament any day of the week.

ruka > hersi, appiah, bridge(as a winger).

Ruka >>>>>>> Hersi etc

No one else in the team, besides a few, has as good of a shot than he has. He is just lacking confidence at the moment

bosco08 · February 24, 2015

You're entitled to your opinion as is everyone but the "hater" argument is really silly. I just call it as I see it, it's nothing to do with "hating". 16 games is a fair amount to judge IMO.

As far as I'm concerned you can have all the pace in the world but if your first touch is as bad as Ruka's is it's almost pointless. I just see no other attributes besides speed. Touch poor, positioning average, defensive contribution very little, movement poor, very little footballing intelligence. He is just a runner.

Yes he can run past players but when it comes down to a final pass, cross or shot the end product is just not there. I honestly believe he has the worst first touch in the squad, it's just consistently awful almost every time.

Just don't see how he is possibly going to come good. He's scored 7 goals in nearly 80 games in the past six years or so and has never managed more than 5 goals a season since leaving Perth. Does anyone really think he is just going to start banging them in?

When a player is a Wanderer, there is no point in saying he is **** with no chance of getting better. Wait till he leaves our club and then you can give him **** all you want but now he needs our support and the backing of the fans to turn things around. All you're doing is hating.

I'd disagree on touch, positioning, defensive work, movement and intelligence. The simple truth is that he had scored more than half of the clear chances he has had in a WSW shirt, there is no way you'd be critising him or giving him so much negative bullshit. He'd be between 5-10 goals and it would have changed the fortunes of the team.

Yes he can do better, he hasn't worked out for us as we'd hoped, but you can say that about our whole team. Not enough people contributing to our team and the resulting lack of performance has led to the lack of confidence we have had in attack and defence. You may not see him coming good based on what you've seen but we don't need a prolific goal scorer, we just need someone who is already getting in good positions to put the ball away.

I prefer to be realistic. He's never scored between 5-10 goals anywhere, to say he would have that amount with some luck is bullshit.

Hersi may have had poor discipline but comparing him to Ruka, well that's where it ends. Hersi's first touch was above average in this league and his defensive work rate was second to none.

just about everytime he gets on the ball you have no idea what he's going to do. its exiting, its what I want to watch.

But you really do have an idea of what he's going to do - 95% of the time he's chasing after the ball which ends up about 10 metres away from him after his first touch.

**mack** · February 24, 2015

That's 5% less than the % of times you knew Kubi was going to go chasing the ball after his first touch.

Stokz · February 24, 2015

Still stand by comment from before.

Ruka is a rich mans Appiah.

theguyyouwishyouwere · February 24, 2015

You're entitled to your opinion as is everyone but the "hater" argument is really silly. I just call it as I see it, it's nothing to do with "hating". 16 games is a fair amount to judge IMO.

As far as I'm concerned you can have all the pace in the world but if your first touch is as bad as Ruka's is it's almost pointless. I just see no other attributes besides speed. Touch poor, positioning average, defensive contribution very little, movement poor, very little footballing intelligence. He is just a runner.

Yes he can run past players but when it comes down to a final pass, cross or shot the end product is just not there. I honestly believe he has the worst first touch in the squad, it's just consistently awful almost every time.

Just don't see how he is possibly going to come good. He's scored 7 goals in nearly 80 games in the past six years or so and has never managed more than 5 goals a season since leaving Perth. Does anyone really think he is just going to start banging them in?

When a player is a Wanderer, there is no point in saying he is **** with no chance of getting better. Wait till he leaves our club and then you can give him **** all you want but now he needs our support and the backing of the fans to turn things around. All you're doing is hating.

I'd disagree on touch, positioning, defensive work, movement and intelligence. The simple truth is that he had scored more than half of the clear chances he has had in a WSW shirt, there is no way you'd be critising him or giving him so much negative bullshit. He'd be between 5-10 goals and it would have changed the fortunes of the team.

Yes he can do better, he hasn't worked out for us as we'd hoped, but you can say that about our whole team. Not enough people contributing to our team and the resulting lack of performance has led to the lack of confidence we have had in attack and defence. You may not see him coming good based on what you've seen but we don't need a prolific goal scorer, we just need someone who is already getting in good positions to put the ball away.

I prefer to be realistic. He's never scored between 5-10 goals anywhere, to say he would have that amount with some luck is bullshit.

Hersi may have had poor discipline but comparing him to Ruka, well that's where it ends. Hersi's first touch was above average in this league and his defensive work rate was second to none.

just about everytime he gets on the ball you have no idea what he's going to do. its exiting, its what I want to watch.

But you really do have an idea of what he's going to do - 95% of the time he's chasing after the ball which ends up about 10 metres away from him after his first touch.

Speaking of bullshit - in 07/08 he scored six goals and in 08/09 he scored ten goals for the glory. And in 09/10 he scored 5 goals in eleven matches in the Belgian league.

Edited February 24, 2015 by theguyyouwishyouwere

NickosCPC · February 25, 2015

Hersi > Ruka

DCWSW · February 25, 2015

Ruka confirmed on social media he is not playing tonight, saved for #SydneyDerby

Prydzopolis · February 25, 2015

The other thing you're not taking into account is that in Germany they moved him from striker (position he prefers and scores his goals) to the wing where of course he is not going to be a prolific scorer. Take into account that he would be a set piece taker too, chances for him to score would be greatly reduced too. So of course his record in goal scoring isn't going to be great and what it comes down to whether he can put the ball into the back of net if he gets into good positions.

The big difference between WSW and other teams playing 4-2-3-1, is that the wingers in our formation find themselves in goal scoring situations rather than other teams (they are used more for chance creation & stretching the field). Just because in the past he hasn't been scoring goals doesn't mean he hasn't got the ability to score goals now especially since he is getting into better goal scoring positions. It's not about being realistic, it's about using common sense and backing the winger to come good.

I'm sure just as the negative comments on Kubi found themselves a way back to the player from social media etc, the last thing we need is useless negative comments from die heart fans getting back to the players. Constructive criticism is fine, he isn't doing this, he needs to do this or improve here but comments along the line of "can't bat, can't bowl, can't field" helps nobody and reflects badly on us.

bosco08 · February 25, 2015

Still stand by comment from before.

Ruka is a rich mans Appiah.

I agree, and considering what their likely wages were/are, a VERY rich mans Appiah.

You're entitled to your opinion as is everyone but the "hater" argument is really silly. I just call it as I see it, it's nothing to do with "hating". 16 games is a fair amount to judge IMO.

As far as I'm concerned you can have all the pace in the world but if your first touch is as bad as Ruka's is it's almost pointless. I just see no other attributes besides speed. Touch poor, positioning average, defensive contribution very little, movement poor, very little footballing intelligence. He is just a runner.

Yes he can run past players but when it comes down to a final pass, cross or shot the end product is just not there. I honestly believe he has the worst first touch in the squad, it's just consistently awful almost every time.

Just don't see how he is possibly going to come good. He's scored 7 goals in nearly 80 games in the past six years or so and has never managed more than 5 goals a season since leaving Perth. Does anyone really think he is just going to start banging them in?

When a player is a Wanderer, there is no point in saying he is **** with no chance of getting better. Wait till he leaves our club and then you can give him **** all you want but now he needs our support and the backing of the fans to turn things around. All you're doing is hating.

I'd disagree on touch, positioning, defensive work, movement and intelligence. The simple truth is that he had scored more than half of the clear chances he has had in a WSW shirt, there is no way you'd be critising him or giving him so much negative bullshit. He'd be between 5-10 goals and it would have changed the fortunes of the team.

Yes he can do better, he hasn't worked out for us as we'd hoped, but you can say that about our whole team. Not enough people contributing to our team and the resulting lack of performance has led to the lack of confidence we have had in attack and defence. You may not see him coming good based on what you've seen but we don't need a prolific goal scorer, we just need someone who is already getting in good positions to put the ball away.

I prefer to be realistic. He's never scored between 5-10 goals anywhere, to say he would have that amount with some luck is bullshit.

Hersi may have had poor discipline but comparing him to Ruka, well that's where it ends. Hersi's first touch was above average in this league and his defensive work rate was second to none.

just about everytime he gets on the ball you have no idea what he's going to do. its exiting, its what I want to watch.

But you really do have an idea of what he's going to do - 95% of the time he's chasing after the ball which ends up about 10 metres away from him after his first touch.

Speaking of bullshit - in 07/08 he scored six goals and in 08/09 he scored ten goals for the glory. And in 09/10 he scored 5 goals in eleven matches in the Belgian league.

I did state "post Perth" in a previous post.

His record since 09/10 (including this season) is approximately 117 games 13 goals.

The other thing you're not taking into account is that in Germany they moved him from striker (position he prefers and scores his goals) to the wing where of course he is not going to be a prolific scorer. Take into account that he would be a set piece taker too, chances for him to score would be greatly reduced too. So of course his record in goal scoring isn't going to be great and what it comes down to whether he can put the ball into the back of net if he gets into good positions.

The big difference between WSW and other teams playing 4-2-3-1, is that the wingers in our formation find themselves in goal scoring situations rather than other teams (they are used more for chance creation & stretching the field). Just because in the past he hasn't been scoring goals doesn't mean he hasn't got the ability to score goals now especially since he is getting into better goal scoring positions. It's not about being realistic, it's about using common sense and backing the winger to come good.

I'm sure just as the negative comments on Kubi found themselves a way back to the player from social media etc, the last thing we need is useless negative comments from die heart fans getting back to the players. Constructive criticism is fine, he isn't doing this, he needs to do this or improve here but comments along the line of "can't bat, can't bowl, can't field" helps nobody and reflects badly on us.

It's everything to do with being realistic. His poor touch more often than not completely lets him down, when in great positions this season to score he hasn't been able to finish. His goalscoring record in the past six years speaks volumes.

As for negative comments, I'm positive Ruka wouldn't care what a mug like me thinks in the slightest so I don't see what your point is. Is it negative to say he hasn't been good at all? Or are we supposed to delude ourselves into thinking that "he will come good" when the evidence suggests otherwise?

TheSweeper · February 25, 2015

Hersi had a huge advantage with polenz always overlapping drawing a defender , gave him great options cutting back inside. . Ruka has not had the same left back 2 games in a row and there is never anybody taking away a defender . Not saying his touch is fantastic but a great overlapping left back would make a lot of difference .

bosco08 · February 25, 2015

Hersi had a huge advantage with polenz always overlapping drawing a defender , gave him great options cutting back inside. . Ruka has not had the same left back 2 games in a row and there is never anybody taking away a defender . Not saying his touch is fantastic but a great overlapping left back would make a lot of difference .

I definitely agree with this (our fullbacks have been largely horrible) but still feel his touch more often than not shuts down any good opportunities he may have.

Prydzopolis · February 25, 2015

The other thing you're not taking into account is that in Germany they moved him from striker (position he prefers and scores his goals) to the wing where of course he is not going to be a prolific scorer. Take into account that he would be a set piece taker too, chances for him to score would be greatly reduced too. So of course his record in goal scoring isn't going to be great and what it comes down to whether he can put the ball into the back of net if he gets into good positions.

The big difference between WSW and other teams playing 4-2-3-1, is that the wingers in our formation find themselves in goal scoring situations rather than other teams (they are used more for chance creation & stretching the field). Just because in the past he hasn't been scoring goals doesn't mean he hasn't got the ability to score goals now especially since he is getting into better goal scoring positions. It's not about being realistic, it's about using common sense and backing the winger to come good.

I'm sure just as the negative comments on Kubi found themselves a way back to the player from social media etc, the last thing we need is useless negative comments from die heart fans getting back to the players. Constructive criticism is fine, he isn't doing this, he needs to do this or improve here but comments along the line of "can't bat, can't bowl, can't field" helps nobody and reflects badly on us.

It's everything to do with being realistic. His poor touch more often than not completely lets him down, when in great positions this season to score he hasn't been able to finish. His goalscoring record in the past six years speaks volumes.

As for negative comments, I'm positive Ruka wouldn't care what a mug like me thinks in the slightest so I don't see what your point is. Is it negative to say he hasn't been good at all? Or are we supposed to delude ourselves into thinking that "he will come good" when the evidence suggests otherwise?

I've given you reasons why his goal scoring record isn't great in the past and we have already said how close he has been in putting the ball away when getting into good positions. Everyone can see he has the talent but just isn't putting them away right now and the lack of confidence is reflected in his performances.

You might not care but it reflects badly on us as fans, is this what we want to be remembered as? Like ESFC fans who turn on players and coaches? Clearly my point was completely missed (it was in the last sentence which seems to have gone over your head like many of my other points) so I'll repeat it for you "Constructive criticism is fine, "he isn't doing this", "he needs to do this or improve here" but comments along the line of "can't bat, can't bowl, can't field" helps nobody and reflects badly on us."

Edited February 25, 2015 by Prydzopolis

WestSyd · February 25, 2015

Prydz

I don't think anything he is saying is that bad or offensive. Worst thing he is saying is that "he ha the touch of an elephant". Hardly offensive. Unless he is planning on jumping a fence and confronting Ruka in person (lol), I don't think there is anything wrong with what he is saying. He doesn't appear to be someone who would do that anyway.

I think he is more interested in calling a spade a spade and expressing his opinion. Whereas you are more interested in giving the players support to give them some confidence (but you might agree with some things he says). Therefore you are on different wavelengths and have different motives for what you are saying.

February 25, 2015

Against Wellington in Penrith, Golec was brilliant in making the bombing run down the left flank, and as a result Haliti played his best 45 minutes of the season.

If only Popa put Ruka on the left and had Golec do this then I think Ruka would go to a whole new level.

Prydzopolis · February 25, 2015

Prydz

I don't think anything he is saying is that bad or offensive. Worst thing he is saying is that "he ha the touch of an elephant". Hardly offensive. Unless he is planning on jumping a fence and confronting Ruka in person (lol), I don't think there is anything wrong with what he is saying. He doesn't appear to be someone who would do that anyway.

I think he is more interested in calling a spade a spade and expressing his opinion. Whereas you are more interested in giving the players support to give them some confidence (but you might agree with some things he says). Therefore you are on different wavelengths and have different motives for what you are saying.

The issue is that it does absolutely nothing to say he can't do anything right or will never come good. Then it's just like this guy does nothing on the field, everything he does is wrong and makes him sound like you've put a park footballer on the park. Some of the things are just plain not true, like "no football intelligence" or "the worst player to play for WSW", it's just absolute crap.

As I said, I don't mind constructive critiscism but all he is doing is just dishing out on the player, how does this improve the situation? I don't mind saying that he struggles in certain areas or that he is currently below his best playing with little confidence right now because that is right. It's not even a supportive versus calling players out argument.

theguyyouwishyouwere · February 25, 2015

he was woeful last night

bosco08 · February 25, 2015

The other thing you're not taking into account is that in Germany they moved him from striker (position he prefers and scores his goals) to the wing where of course he is not going to be a prolific scorer. Take into account that he would be a set piece taker too, chances for him to score would be greatly reduced too. So of course his record in goal scoring isn't going to be great and what it comes down to whether he can put the ball into the back of net if he gets into good positions.

The big difference between WSW and other teams playing 4-2-3-1, is that the wingers in our formation find themselves in goal scoring situations rather than other teams (they are used more for chance creation & stretching the field). Just because in the past he hasn't been scoring goals doesn't mean he hasn't got the ability to score goals now especially since he is getting into better goal scoring positions. It's not about being realistic, it's about using common sense and backing the winger to come good.

I'm sure just as the negative comments on Kubi found themselves a way back to the player from social media etc, the last thing we need is useless negative comments from die heart fans getting back to the players. Constructive criticism is fine, he isn't doing this, he needs to do this or improve here but comments along the line of "can't bat, can't bowl, can't field" helps nobody and reflects badly on us.

It's everything to do with being realistic. His poor touch more often than not completely lets him down, when in great positions this season to score he hasn't been able to finish. His goalscoring record in the past six years speaks volumes.

As for negative comments, I'm positive Ruka wouldn't care what a mug like me thinks in the slightest so I don't see what your point is. Is it negative to say he hasn't been good at all? Or are we supposed to delude ourselves into thinking that "he will come good" when the evidence suggests otherwise?

I've given you reasons why his goal scoring record isn't great in the past and we have already said how close he has been in putting the ball away when getting into good positions. Everyone can see he has the talent but just isn't putting them away right now and the lack of confidence is reflected in his performances.

You might not care but it reflects badly on us as fans, is this what we want to be remembered as? Like ESFC fans who turn on players and coaches? Clearly my point was completely missed (it was in the last sentence which seems to have gone over your head like many of my other points) so I'll repeat it for you "Constructive criticism is fine, "he isn't doing this", "he needs to do this or improve here" but comments along the line of "can't bat, can't bowl, can't field" helps nobody and reflects badly on us."

Sorry, but not everyone can see he has "talent". He has speed. That's what everyone can see. It's your opinion that he has talent, and it's mine that he has very little.

I just call it as I see it. He's played 16 games and he has done extremely little. If you can't even admit he's been very poor then you are watching a different game to me. But you're entitled to your opinion, just as I'm entitled to mine.

he was woeful last night

Bridge >>> Ruka.

Prydz

I don't think anything he is saying is that bad or offensive. Worst thing he is saying is that "he ha the touch of an elephant". Hardly offensive. Unless he is planning on jumping a fence and confronting Ruka in person (lol), I don't think there is anything wrong with what he is saying. He doesn't appear to be someone who would do that anyway.

I think he is more interested in calling a spade a spade and expressing his opinion. Whereas you are more interested in giving the players support to give them some confidence (but you might agree with some things he says). Therefore you are on different wavelengths and have different motives for what you are saying.

The issue is that it does absolutely nothing to say he can't do anything right or will never come good. Then it's just like this guy does nothing on the field, everything he does is wrong and makes him sound like you've put a park footballer on the park. Some of the things are just plain not true, like "no football intelligence" or "the worst player to play for WSW", it's just absolute crap.
As I said, I don't mind constructive critiscism but all he is doing is just dishing out on the player, how does this improve the situation? I don't mind saying that he struggles in certain areas or that he is currently below his best playing with little confidence right now because that is right. It's not even a supportive versus calling players out argument.

What it is is my opinion. It doesn't need to "do" anything.

It's your opinion that he has football intelligence, it's my opinion that he doesn't, it's not "plain not true".

Edited February 25, 2015 by bosco08

**Taurus** · February 26, 2015

he was woeful last night

Agree, hopefully the winning vibe around the joint & a sense of occasion will bring the best out in him against ESFC & or GE.

DinoPresinger · February 26, 2015

It wasn't like he wasn't on the pitch. It was more like he wasn't in the country. He's got to do more to lift his game

**102megan** · February 26, 2015

You're all being far too harsh.

He made no errors all night; no offside calls against him, no mis-kicks to the other team, no off-target shots.

luisenrique · February 26, 2015

He turned the TV on brilliantly last night, went to the tv guide, sports, but then at the last minute he chose the wrong channel and ended up watching the Brisbane game.

Wow that's bad.

I regret nothing.

bosco08 · February 28, 2015

I'll give him some credit, it only took 17 games but he finally crossed a decent ball for the first time last night, and we scored.

That's where the good ends though, spent the rest of the time offside, didn't beat a player one on one all night, and ruined an absolute sitter assist in the second half. How anyone can think he's an intelligent player is beyond me.

Honestly, some may think I'm being harsh or "hating" but compare Castelen's game last night to his. Yes we are a poor team this year, yes there's been chopping and changing, yes our fullbacks have been very poor, but Castelen comes back from injury and immediately makes a massive impact and Ruka, apart from one moment, does absolutely nothing.

He just doesn't have it. The sooner people accept that the better.

Prydzopolis · March 1, 2015

Tonight's game/loss was nothing to do with Ruka, had we won or draw we wouldn't be having this conversation. Second half he provided the right back with nightmares and they ended up having to sub him to keep 11 men on the park. Tonight isn't the night to come on here to gloat that you were right that he didn't have a MOTM performance. This guy provided an assist, next week he'll score a goal or provide another assist but no matter what he does you've already passed judgement on him.

bosco08 · March 1, 2015

Never once said the loss was anything to do with him, did I? Just commenting on his performance.

Once again you are reading what you want.

**Unlimited** · March 1, 2015

I'll give him some credit, it only took 17 games but he finally crossed a decent ball for the first time last night, and we scored.

That's where the good ends though, spent the rest of the time offside, didn't beat a player one on one all night, and ruined an absolute sitter assist in the second half. How anyone can think he's an intelligent player is beyond me.

Honestly, some may think I'm being harsh or "hating" but compare Castelen's game last night to his. Yes we are a poor team this year, yes there's been chopping and changing, yes our fullbacks have been very poor, but Castelen comes back from injury and immediately makes a massive impact and Ruka, apart from one moment, does absolutely nothing.

He just doesn't have it. The sooner people accept that the better.

He's not an "intelligent" player, in the usual sense of the word. He's fast and can dribble and can beat his man, and get into good positions as a result.

Castelen is Ruka plus the intelligence, plus more skill, plus more melanin :ninja:

bosco08 · March 1, 2015

I'll give him some credit, it only took 17 games but he finally crossed a decent ball for the first time last night, and we scored.

That's where the good ends though, spent the rest of the time offside, didn't beat a player one on one all night, and ruined an absolute sitter assist in the second half. How anyone can think he's an intelligent player is beyond me.

Honestly, some may think I'm being harsh or "hating" but compare Castelen's game last night to his. Yes we are a poor team this year, yes there's been chopping and changing, yes our fullbacks have been very poor, but Castelen comes back from injury and immediately makes a massive impact and Ruka, apart from one moment, does absolutely nothing.

He just doesn't have it. The sooner people accept that the better.

He's not an "intelligent" player, in the usual sense of the word. He's fast and can dribble and can beat his man, and get into good positions as a result.

Castelen is Ruka plus the intelligence, plus more skill, plus more melanin

Yep, Castelen is quality. Great touch, very skillful, very smart player. If he was a little taller and a little stronger he would be unstoppable. Tends to get knocked around a lot.

Prydzopolis · March 1, 2015

Never once said the loss was anything to do with him, did I? Just commenting on his performance.

Once again you are reading what you want.

My point was we lost and you came on here to post in here, if we got a result you can't really criticise a guy who was important in getting the points. Instead of spending time actually talking about the problem last night we are talking about Ruka who had a good game.

bosco08 · March 1, 2015

Never once said the loss was anything to do with him, did I? Just commenting on his performance.

Once again you are reading what you want.

My point was we lost and you came on here to post in here, if we got a result you can't really criticise a guy who was important in getting the points. Instead of spending time actually talking about the problem last night we are talking about Ruka who had a good game.

Whether we win or lose makes no difference, I was commenting on his overall performance.

He didn't have a good game in my opinion. Very good cross for the second goal, poor otherwise.

West13 · March 11, 2015

Still wasteful but farking scored the winner! Yewwww

Lookers · March 11, 2015

He's gotta be our highest anti-scorer.

How he and Tomi (both with international caps) are missing those one on ones, I just don't know.

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