Socceroos active support

[marron]

it's a different culture though goat that's the thing. people sing more. there's no need to carefully select songs or whatever, people just roll with it and sing. listen to how tuneful the chants are in south america compared to what we do... it's inbuilt. it's part of the reason why are most famous sporting chant is "aussie aussie aussie".

 

btw, I just realised that I think that song I have stuck in my head was a rip off of the mouseketeers song.

 

 

 

Come on goat.

 

We had a draw.

 

It is one of the issues though, finding chants that aren't used by clubs that will still resonate with people.

 

Hey does anyone remember that "song for the socceroos" show back in 2006? I've still got one of them stuck in my head.

socceroos

socceroos

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

socceroos

socceroos

here come the, socceroos

 

 

"I wanna jump and scream in a stadium, full of Australians" 

 

oh **** i forgot about that one

 

 

As usual I'm about 2 or 3 weeks behind in life:

 

http://www.shootfarken.com.au/short-sad-history-of-****-socceroos-world-cup-songs/

 

I'm right though, it WAS the ******* mouseketeer song.

Edited May 27, 2014 by ciudadmarron

[Guest mickisnot]

Just dale for 90 minutes

[Erebus]

We had people behind us saying that each half is 40 minutes...then  being shocked that it was 45 minutes when the half time whistle obviously didn't come at the 40th.

Then comments of "extra time" and "penalties" etc

 

This is the crowd you get at Socceroo matches.

Edited May 27, 2014 by Erebus

[BigDukes]

just give up..itll never work and there is no shame in it not working. not many international teams have an actual support group that works in unison purely because they are all rivals. Don't forgot Australian football mentality in terms of being active is in its infancy.

 

Finally, **** listening to what the FFA say...even if the active support group is independent, tifos, instruments etc will need to still be discussed with them and after the way the treat active supporters across the country they can suck a fat cock

 

[ColdRock]

We would like to provide a family friendly library blah blah dribble dribble snore, for everyone to enjoy safely blah blah snore snore, expensive pies, get behind the boys Aussie Aussie Aussie we eat our own feces would you like to try some 

[ManfredSchaefer]

Last night's atmosphere was criminally flat, and a lot of what has been said is very true. You can throw in the Monday night start (far too many people seemed to have come straight from work), the casual nature of following the Socceroos for the vast majority of attendees (I still can't get over people wearing Wallaby's jerseys to a Socceroo match as I saw again last night), and the cultural issues...well, active support and the Socceroos seem like mutually exclusive terms.

 

I'm no expert and have almost zip active supporter experience but the bottom line is there is almost no historical, cultural or nationalist identification between the Socceroos and the core football fans who provide the engines for the likes of the RBB, the Den, Cove etc etc. Older blokes like me who have a long association with the national team, following them and having them as the symbol of our long term love of the game are in the vast minority. Entrenched fans of NSL clubs and the associated players who went through the system to become Socceroos have been marginalised by the FFA, by players and coaches, and to some extent there is still hangovers re country of birth versus country of choice. The younger fans, specifically those who came on board after November 2005 have been spoiled by almost 9 years of success, and to some extent have been able to fall back on their A-League clubs as a more enjoyable, more engaging experience.

 

I'm not that upset if there is no RBB-like active supporter group for the Socceroos, especially if someone tries to set this up via FFA guidance/sponsorship. It has to be organic, unique and dedicated to all aspects of the Socceroos past, present and future. There was and arguably still is one there with the 'I told you so' Johnny Warren angle but that is arguably irrelevant now because of the Socceroos killing off the non-qualification bogeyman. My biggest complaint is that when the Socceroos do present themselves in situations like that last night the chase for big crowds and positive mainstream PR diminishes the capability of passionate fans like Pablo etc to cut through. At the risk of confirming what Melburnians think if last night had been played at Wanderland in front of 20,000 it would've been a far better experience.

[BloodyIrishman]

Things would be a whole lot better if ANZ was just a little bit, only a tiny bit......completely rebuilt as a rectanglular stadium.

[Cguezz]

not enough pyro

[Stevo99]

not enough pyro

 

I love this statement in conjunction with your DP

[westofcentre]

Ok we can all relax, the FFA have just announced an official Socceroos Active support  group:

 

 

FFA unveils new support group

 

Damien De Bohun has today unveiled the latest installment of active support for the *insert sponsor here* Socceroos.

 

De Bohun said:

 

"we just found the ferals out there too difficult to deal with. So with that in mind I decided to take the bull by the horns and come up with a support base aligned with my vision of what good wholesome Aussie supporters should be.

 

I know this will take off, and it will be standing room only (though we do prefer if you sit, we don't want you to obstruct people's view.

 

The new group will be called the Hyundai Hop-a-roos.

 

We have already manufactured a massive Hyundai tifo to be unveiled during the Croatia friendly match.The car pictured on the tifo will be yellow and green. 

 

So if you like going to the soccer and enjoy the following, this group is for you:

 

* beach balls

 

* Mexican Waves

 

* Mexican Hats

 

* Singing Ozi Ozi Ozi Oi Oi Oi

 

* Counting down the final 10 seconds of the match

 

Then sign up today and get a free Hyundai Hop-a-roo clapper

Tell them Damien sent you."

 

Edited May 27, 2014 by westofcentre

[hawks2767]

I want active support to grow for the socceroos.

 

Call me different, whatever.

[ManfredSchaefer]

WOC, that was scary...scary coz it sounds so ***** true....

[dmixtaaa]

WOC, that was scary...scary coz it sounds so ***** true....

OMG WOC you pr*ck... I actually thought you were serious.... I had to re read it to see you were bullshiteing and even then required Manfred's take on it to realise

[westofcentre]

 

WOC, that was scary...scary coz it sounds so ***** true....

 

OMG WOC you pr*ck... I actually thought you were serious.... I had to re read it to see you were bullshiteing and even then required Manfred's take on it to realise

Lol well would u be surprised if it was true

[ManfredSchaefer]

 

 

WOC, that was scary...scary coz it sounds so ***** true....

OMG WOC you pr*ck... I actually thought you were serious.... I had to re read it to see you were bullshiteing and even then required Manfred's take on it to realise

Lol well would u be surprised if it was true

 

 

That guy in the Wallaby's shirt is almost emblematic of the bandwagoners that are being seduced by the FFA's soft-sell of the Socceroos. Saw one just like him last night

[shakeyourface]

Personally, I think the active support for Australia should be developed organically. People have to be patient and not expect it to kick off the way it did with the Wanderers support. It takes years (even generations) for this to develop! I don't feel passionate for the team but I still go to the games and support them. 

 

Watching the team last night, I was frustrated like crazy. The team didn't look like they played with their hearts out on the pitch, and the crowd atmosphere was just a reflection of that. Heck the crowd was more enthusiastic when we were booing the capo to shut up! Which was absolutely hilarious to be honest, this one guy kept singing random **** and some guy shouts "WILL YOU SHUT THE **** UP!" nearby lol

 

But I feel more passion and dedication for the Chilean team because over there we are drilled from a young age to be patriotic, to be proud of your country and of your people. It's practically everywhere over there! From a young age (and I was born here in Australia) my parents were always telling me to proud of your roots, they sing their national anthem with such passion it brings me chills, and Chileans in general are just crazy.

 

I don't know, it's a broad and tricky question to ask and this is my opinion, but I reckon the first thing we need to do is to make Australian Football as the country's no.1 sporting priority, and we should be celebrating like crazy for just even qualifying for the World Cup. People don't realise how much of a honour and privilege to be able to do that 3 times in a row. That's right there is where we forget to appreciate how lucky we are to be able to do that. 

[ColdRock]

This is the FFA vision for the rest of Australian football. People of all persuasions shuffling in, emptying their wallets then sitting quietly with one eye on the clock. Then as they drive home realising they've been had, and swearing they'll never go to the sokkah again. Already in full swing in Newcastle

[WestGrub]

Japan have sorted their active support out on a national level. Great noise.

 

Only ten minutes in, but I'm sure it will continue.

[wendybr]

Like England and many other  European countries we are getting to the point where support for the domestic league is much bigger then support for the national team.

 

However it is an interesting dynamic. In South America the national teams still have strong support from fans who obviously support different local teams. How do they do it?

 

In Croatia too - we all know how crazy the ultras are as far as supporting their local team goes - yet they are still able to band together to create a great atmosphere at the national level.

How do they do this? Ie what thought process do they have to put aside differences?

 

For me, I cannot stomach the thought of been in the same active support as a smurf and his knick knack paddy whack phony English accent dribble. 

 

It seems to me that these nationalities must be able to put aside their differences due to their love of  "football", as well as their desire to support their national football team as they face international rivals.

 

I can understand that active supporter groups are not a rent-a-crowd. And I can understand the deep resentments towards the FFA.

 

It's a shame though that for the love of the game, and to support those who represent the sport at a national level, those with the expertise in terms of active support turn away. 

[Jowel]

My soccer rego fees are too high this year. **** the FFA. Therefore I won't support the Socceroos!

 

Jebus

[WSW27]

 

Like England and many other  European countries we are getting to the point where support for the domestic league is much bigger then support for the national team.

 

However it is an interesting dynamic. In South America the national teams still have strong support from fans who obviously support different local teams. How do they do it?

 

In Croatia too - we all know how crazy the ultras are as far as supporting their local team goes - yet they are still able to band together to create a great atmosphere at the national level.

How do they do this? Ie what thought process do they have to put aside differences?

 

For me, I cannot stomach the thought of been in the same active support as a smurf and his knick knack paddy whack phony English accent dribble. 

 

It seems to me that these nationalities must be able to put aside their differences due to their love of  "football", as well as their desire to support their national football team as they face international rivals.

 

I can understand that active supporter groups are not a rent-a-crowd. And I can understand the deep resentments towards the FFA.

 

It's a shame though that for the love of the game, and to support those who represent the sport at a national level, those with the expertise in terms of active support turn away. 

 

It's like fighting a major uphill battle. I will go there and support the team who represent the nation. Any way I can give back to them is enough for me, same with our club.

[hawks2767]

You won't know the guy next to you is a smurf unless he is stupid enough to wear his a league jersey.

 

That's how it should be, you have a feeling everyone around you supports other clubs but you leave it at the door.

 

The national team deserves better than last night.

[pys]

I cant see it happening too many aussies

 

 

there I said it.

[Stokz]

 

Like England and many other  European countries we are getting to the point where support for the domestic league is much bigger then support for the national team.

 

However it is an interesting dynamic. In South America the national teams still have strong support from fans who obviously support different local teams. How do they do it?

In Croatia too - we all know how crazy the ultras are as far as supporting their local team goes - yet they are still able to band together to create a great atmosphere at the national level.

How do they do this? Ie what thought process do they have to put aside differences?

For me, I cannot stomach the thought of been in the same active support as a smurf and his knick knack paddy whack phony English accent dribble.

 

 

It seems to me that these nationalities must be able to put aside their differences due to their love of  "football", as well as their desire to support their national football team as they face international rivals.

 

I can understand that active supporter groups are not a rent-a-crowd. And I can understand the deep resentments towards the FFA.

 

It's a shame though that for the love of the game, and to support those who represent the sport at a national level, those with the expertise in terms of active support turn away.

It's not love of football, it's love of country

 

These fans unite no matter the sport, basketball, handball, water polo.

[GunnerWanderer]

It's pretty much been covered but FFA pretty much bought this upon yourself shitting not only active but fans for a long time now.

 

You screwed many of us Wanderers fans with the Melb game date change this year and didn't have the balls to come out and admit a your stuffed up

You frisk my 8 year son like a criminal when he walks into games

You tell us you we power the game but the reality is that is only when it suits you

 

I'll support the socceroos from a pub with mates but I'm not spending one cent on a ticket until you change your attitude towards the fans of the A-league - the most important facet of this game in our country at the moment. 

[wendybr]

 

 

Like England and many other  European countries we are getting to the point where support for the domestic league is much bigger then support for the national team.

 

However it is an interesting dynamic. In South America the national teams still have strong support from fans who obviously support different local teams. How do they do it?

In Croatia too - we all know how crazy the ultras are as far as supporting their local team goes - yet they are still able to band together to create a great atmosphere at the national level.

How do they do this? Ie what thought process do they have to put aside differences?

For me, I cannot stomach the thought of been in the same active support as a smurf and his knick knack paddy whack phony English accent dribble.

 

It seems to me that these nationalities must be able to put aside their differences due to their love of  "football", as well as their desire to support their national football team as they face international rivals.

 

I can understand that active supporter groups are not a rent-a-crowd. And I can understand the deep resentments towards the FFA.

 

It's a shame though that for the love of the game, and to support those who represent the sport at a national level, those with the expertise in terms of active support turn away.

It's not love of football, it's love of country

 

These fans unite no matter the sport, basketball, handball, water polo.

 

 

Stokz...I was thinking that too...and I'm sure that's how most supporters feel. But I didn't want to get too nationalistic here. 

 

Either way, I do think it is really sad to see the people who have the know-how and experience to get active support up and running seem to be uninterested...for whatever combination of reasons.

[westofcentre]

I think every culture has its own dynamic.

 

Growing up in a Greek footballing family we were taught to be proud of our background. Like Croatia, Chile etc Greece has a very nationalistic culture.

 

But for some reason when it comes to football your local team comes first.

 

The national team is a distant second. So entreched is a passion for ones club.

 

I think this is down to the history of the country. In ancient times your allegiamce was lttimately to the state not the country. Through the middle ages your ultimate allegiance was to your area.

 

So you can see how this mentality can easily be transferred to teams above the country.

 

Panathinaikos is the team of the middle class/affluent, Olympiakos the working class and AEK the refugees, the dispossesed.

 

In Australia as GunnerWanderer mentioned, this divide has largely beem created by the FFA.

Edited May 27, 2014 by westofcentre

[UltrasRBB]

ultras straya cvnt

[Montalbano]

Australia is a country which hangs on to its strong colonial roots. Association Football has been around as long as any other sports here however it was always seen as more of a minority sport with large participation base. Played a lot by kids at a young age but not taken seriously by most Australians as they grew older. The traditional Aussie would prefer to play the more rugged and manly games rather than appreciate the sublime skill Football has to offer. With immigration and globalisation this has changed a lot however.

 

The last 10 years has seen Football go into the mainstream and the a-league now gets compared against the AFL and NRL, and the Socceroos get compared to the Wallabies and Australian Cricket team. This was never the case before as 'soccer' as we all knew it was a sport for wogs only (or even worse). I think you have to accept that the traditional white Anglo Aussie won't support like a South American or European. So the support has to develop on its own organically. It will probably me more closer to the way the US or Scandinavians support their national teams.

 

A-league is a different story as there are more strong core members who run active groups and make things happen. People from different cultures come into the fray and are able to have more of an influence. The fact that it is done on a weekly basis means it is entrenched in all the clubs. You can't get this with country as matches are scarcely played . Also with a more mainstream following the national team support will always differ to club support in Australia.

[westofcentre]

All very true Montalbano. But it also raises the question when it comes to support style why havent the Cove jumped on board? FFA hate perhaps?

 

Thry have a more British style support which would be more in line with the broader community.

 

Or is it perhaps that it is just down to active support full stop and this sort of support is still foreign to mainstream Australia.

 

And especially now as we have more non foot all people going to watch the game it will be an even tougher battle.

Edited May 27, 2014 by westofcentre