MCHammer Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 That was the biggest collective bottom lip I've ever seen. What was proven today was that the stands even with no notice, can take up the support of their team, however weak it was, it was done from love of our team... RBB is not the only group with passion, the difference is the stands passion is unconditional, RBB's isn't.I dont know about you, but i saw the RBB all there today watching the boys like we do every week. does the fact that we were quiet make us less passionate than you about the team? Did it make our passion not unconditional? If so, i think the RBB has it over you pretty much all the time. silly argument What it means is that the RBB will withdraw its usual amazing, unparalleled passion when factors outside of the team occurs. That's all. But we were still there supporting the team in a very similar manner to which you guys in the stands show your "unconditional passion" week in, week out. If you dont mean to say that the RBB's commitment towards the team is less then everyone elses, then dont say it.
Zelinsky Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Rumour has it that on the ESFC forum they are going to open an 'implosion wanderers support' thread.... I believe it is fair to assume that most of us are going to the matches to support the team, in whichever capacity. I feel that the RBB withheld their support from the team today. I am extremely curious what caused the RBB to take such a drastic step, and am looking forward to the official statement. Right now I fail to understand the difference between 90 minutes silence and a Cove-style walkout. Either action left the respective team standing in the rain. TehSmileyBandit 1
DanG Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 After a beer at the Bavarian with a couple of other bay 60s, and another while eating my dinner, I think I'm now sufficiently calm to respond to what went on tonight. Let me make myself clear, I have a lot of respect for the RBB and the part they've played in building this club into what it is today. I have stood with them in Melbourne, Newcastle, Gosford and Allianz and enjoyed every minute of it. But my kids prefer the wings where they can hear the noise without feeling intimidated. It always brings a wry smile to my face to hear my 8yo son and his baseball/football teammates singing Wanderers songs while they're messing around. And I dont mind dealing with the consistent Monday morning sleights in the office about police helicopters, flares, centrelink and everything else. That's just a part of supporting the Wanderers and I wear that badge with pride. The silent protest tonight was completely unnecessary and ignored our position in the league, the sporting landscape, what's going on in the country and the world, for that matter. A win tonight would have kept us within range for the premiership (what really matters), a chance now gone, it seems. The AFL/NRL seasons starts next week, but its lost on the RBB that our club shares the ground with a competition that prefers we didn't exist. An asylum seeker died in an Australian gulag, protest about that. Thousands of Syrians are dying every week, protest about that. If you're going to protest, do it for something worthwhile for fcks sake. I am nonplussed about the reasons for the silent protest, it simply wasnt justified. Regardless of what the "official RBB statement" (whatever that means) says, almost every Wanderers fan went home with a bitter taste in their mouth. Not because we lost, but because we weren't united. Perhaps if the RBB was a little more transparent - who are the core, what do they stand for, are they elected - their "official statements" may carry a little more weight. But as they prefer to be anonymous, and made the curious decision to announce their reasons for the silent protest after the event, we can only fill in the blanks. What they've done is simply provide more ammunition for the anti-football media to kick the sh1t out of us. I am a Wanderers fan, I will always be a Wanderers fan. I waited my entire adult life for this club, and I will not stop supporting the team regardless of any restrictions placed upon me to do so (filming by police included). I hope the RBB listens to the rest of us and doesn't withhold their support with such ease again. The Kop wouldn't do it, The Yellow Wall wouldn't do it, and neither should we. Another one with NFI Thanks for the input. I await the official statement with baited breath. Let's hope they run a spell check over it. Neverbloom and dmixtaaa 2
Zelinsky Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Rumour has it that on the ESFC forum they are going to open an 'implosion wanderers support' thread.... I believe it is fair to assume that most of us are going to the matches to support the team, in whichever capacity. I feel that the RBB withheld their support from the team today. I am extremely curious what caused the RBB to take such a drastic step, and am looking forward to the official statement. Right now I fail to understand the difference between 90 minutes silence and a Cove-style walkout. Either action left the respective team standing in the rain.
MajorMelons Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Just reread the email from that club trying to work out what it is that the may be "misleading" on their part. My guess is northgate/ rbb will say that they didn't know that ACL would impose fines for flares, or dispute that a memorandum of undertanding exists. Either way - ***** yaawwwn. A question for all you who are defending the protest. Lets assume that whatever issues you have with the club are not resolved as at the end of this season. Will you still renew your membership for next year? Given that your active support is so crucial to the club, surely this would be a massive bargaining chip that you could use as they club would surely cave in to at least some of you demands, if not all. Neverbloom 1
Malone Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Rumour has it that on the ESFC forum they are going to open an 'implosion wanderers support' thread.... I believe it is fair to assume that most of us are going to the matches to support the team, in whichever capacity. I feel that the RBB withheld their support from the team today. I am extremely curious what caused the RBB to take such a drastic step, and am looking forward to the official statement. Right now I fail to understand the difference between 90 minutes silence and a Cove-style walkout. Either action left the respective team standing in the rain. Rumour based on what?
ATP Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Well this thread brought a shitload of people out of the woodwork! Where have you all been?? Lol Anyway, too many keyboard warriors on here happy to ride the internet security wave, DMIXTAA STAVUP AND ESPECIALLY ---->>> M-A-L-O-N-E Id really like to talk to you guys in person :-) ilshonin and WanderersFC 2
dmixtaaa Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Atmosphere sucked balls tonight, 12 year old's starting halfassed WDYSF might make their parents feel proud but to the rest who know what football support is about it's farking embarrasing. A vocal selfish minority have torn us in two. ^^^ Fixed. Bones 1
Prydzopolis Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 My guess is northgate/ rbb will say that they didn't know that ACL would impose fines for flares, or dispute that a memorandum of undertanding exists. Either way - ***** yaawwwn. Definitely has to be bigger or more than that, it would have to be that negotiations or relationd have broken down between the RBB and the club. You don't have to look far to see that the Asian confederation fine for use of flares in their competition. On the MoU, it would have to a pretty huge misunderstanding or issue to cause a full match silent protest.
Zelinsky Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Rumour has it that on the ESFC forum they are going to open an 'implosion wanderers support' thread.... I believe it is fair to assume that most of us are going to the matches to support the team, in whichever capacity. I feel that the RBB withheld their support from the team today. I am extremely curious what caused the RBB to take such a drastic step, and am looking forward to the official statement. Right now I fail to understand the difference between 90 minutes silence and a Cove-style walkout. Either action left the respective team standing in the rain. Rumour based on what? Disclaimer: sarcasm.
WestGrub Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 What makes me laugh is the expectation that all aspects of the RBB must be perfect. We must never put a foot out of line, in regards to other fans expectations of us, the authorities expectations of us & the media's expectation of us. We have a thread that goes for 6 pages about the rights & wrongs of what happened today, but only a handful of replies to the post game thread, a game where we got owned by a team coming 9th at the start of play. At home. To me this suggests one of two things: either a) the RBB, despite so many people suggesting otherwise IS more important than the team (I do not subscribe to this & I cant imagine any RBB member would) or b) the RBB, due to the protest, is at fault for the result thus absolving the players of any blame. Does this mean we in turn get credit for all of our successes? What happened to all aspects of the club: the players, the management & the fans, being equally supportive of one another & thus equally able to share in successes & FAILURES. The RBB is a simply an active supporters group. To expect us to be able to satisfy everybody's expectations of us, whilst also trying to stick solid to principles we believe in, is as reasonable as expecting WSW to win every game with a clean sheet. Neverbloom, Legionista and FairPlay 3
Malone Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Well this thread brought a shitload of people out of the woodwork! Where have you all been?? Lol Anyway, too many keyboard warriors on here happy to ride the internet security wave, DMIXTAA STAVUP AND ESPECIALLY ---->>> M-A-L-O-N-E Id really like to talk to you guys in person :-) ATP generally curious as to what i said in this thread that you have taken offence to? Edited March 2, 2014 by Malone wendybr 1
Smoggy Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 I don't get this argument that goes along the lines of 'well all you guys just sit there in silence each home game so why can't the RBB' What kind of **** attitude is that! Also many of the posts from RBB members are coming over as elitist. No doubt the RBB forms a very important part if this club but they are not WSW and just because other fans are not active does not mean they are any less passionate. The RBB stuffed up big time today in not releasing this statement before the protest. Sad day for WSW. Neverbloom, Hilliangull and Flytox 3
ATP Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 It amuses me that all this self-righteous, RBB-bashing will be forgotten down the track once our problems are sorted, Then everyone will go back to exclaming how wonderful we are, how great our Tifos have been & what an amazing atmosphere we create... Too many love/hate relationships at the moment for some people lol Bones, Skoolz6 and WanderersFC 3
GD07 Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Well this thread brought a shitload of people out of the woodwork! Where have you all been?? Lol Anyway, too many keyboard warriors on here happy to ride the internet security wave, DMIXTAA STAVUP AND ESPECIALLY ---->>> M-A-L-O-N-E U Id really like to talk to you guys in person :-) That's why it's good to have the ignore button, don't have to head the halfwits shite.
MajorMelons Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 It amuses me that all this self-righteous, RBB-bashing will be forgotten down the track once our problems are sorted, Then everyone will go back to exclaming how wonderful we are, how great our Tifos have been & what an amazing atmosphere we create... Too many love/hate relationships at the moment for some people lol You make a good point, but the reality is that there is one problem that you are never going to sort, because you don't want to.
Burztur Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 1. I look forward to the official statement, but as many have suggested, it was poorly executed due to the lack of communication and it being carried out on such short notice. 2. The RBB are clearly an integral part of the club. There is passion in the stands but the RBB is needed to lead and guide everyone and I hope that will return quickly. 3. Positives: Stands will get more active from this - I look forward to a reverse WDYSF back to the RBB Neverbloom and Wanderboy 2
Wanderboy Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 The reason why last seasons "20 minute silent protest" was so successful, was that fliers were handed out before the game explaining the reasons. It read well, and was supported by the masses. Hence, the RBB chant in the 19th minute. Today.............???????? PieceBombs, Hilliangull and Neverbloom 3
rolande1990 Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Literally the only reason most of us in 55 and 57 didn't chant is because we woulda had dudes outside the ground in 56 ready to fight us, there were some girls right behind me in 55 (right near 56 mind u) and they stood up n did poznan, ponchos and all...wrong move to make & with almost no notice, I woulda stayed home if I had known it would be a boring afternoon sitting in literally the worst seats in the ground... Edited March 2, 2014 by rolande1990 Neverbloom, wendybr and TehSmileyBandit 3
dmixtaaa Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Well this thread brought a shitload of people out of the woodwork! Where have you all been?? Lol Anyway, too many keyboard warriors on here happy to ride the internet security wave, DMIXTAA STAVUP AND ESPECIALLY ---->>> M-A-L-O-N-E Id really like to talk to you guys in person :-) Can you just please read what you posted.... Obviously sanctimoniousness not one of your stronger points.
stavup Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 If people said nothing about this it would show they dont care. If anything the outpouring of emotion on social media proves people are very passionate, and at the end of the day it demonstrates how the RBB has taken up a special place in all our hearts, and I think many are feeling very let down by actions and attitude. The RBB like it or not has a persona and life in many ways, yes its made up of many individuals, but on game day we see you as one,and the stands have followed you down the path you led us.. I think this has signified some hard times ahead, which I think has always been coming from the early days of the RBB. I think people just need to give each other a little latitude and space to vent. At the end of the day there are non of us who are without his/her deficits, however this is about taking responsibility for our collective position. I just dont see how whats been done is a good thing, and people ripping each other a new one doesnt achieve much. That sounds rich coming from me, as I have been in a rage since Wednesday and as many of you know I say what I think... I just hope the Wanderers dont lose good fans because they are tired of the crap that goes on, because it can all come undone just as fast as it began sadly. Oh how the Cove must be laughing.. Neverbloom, wendybr, dmixtaaa and 1 other 4
Smoggy Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 It amuses me that all this self-righteous, RBB-bashing will be forgotten down the track once our problems are sorted, Then everyone will go back to exclaming how wonderful we are, how great our Tifos have been & what an amazing atmosphere we create... Too many love/hate relationships at the moment for some people lol It isn't self righteous, people are calling as they see it, and it looked shite. At least try and get the other supporters to try and understand what the protest is all about / get some communication going! Personally I think all the how wonderful the RBB comments have ****ed up some heads in the RBB and over inflated some ego's
TehSmileyBandit Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 My take: Self-indulgent kids chucking toys out of the cot, severely over-stating self-worth. Now that flak is received from real supporters, defensive stance, "you don't know what it's about!" Here is an actual transcript of audio from today's protest: "What do we want?" "We can't say!" "When do we want it?" "We will tell you tomorrow!" bombagol, Neverbloom, antoniocortell and 1 other 4
Guest mickisnot Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 What a disturbing situation we've all found ourselves into. There's s*** poster called PARRASFC, you'll find him in the Sydney FC thread. He once said that the toxicity at the WSW is just as much as SFC. The comment has always resided with me. A lot of you talk like the issue is isolated to flares. I don't think what's going on here is isolated to flares. When The Daily Telegraph released their "Exclusive" about how there are "Violent Sub-Groups" within the RBB the comments on this website were chilling. People were saying "OMG can't believe people wrap scarves around their faces!" and "What's with starting a violent sub group anyway?" I thought the article was complete an utter sensationalist garbage. But a lot of you thought the article was truth and that "Scarves around face = Violence!", and generally started whinging at the RBB like you are right now. All of sudden we're in the same predicament: A complicated situation, and we're reading "The true fans were in the East and West stands" and "The RBB doesn't stand united with the team" The RBB are more than entitled to sit down and be silent, you should all know that. But why are we all pitted against each other? FairPlay, rodz7, Jaggy and 2 others 5
WestGrub Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Well this thread brought a shitload of people out of the woodwork! Where have you all been?? Lol Anyway, too many keyboard warriors on here happy to ride the internet security wave, DMIXTAA STAVUP AND ESPECIALLY ---->>> M-A-L-O-N-E Id really like to talk to you guys in person :-) Can you just please read what you posted.... Obviously sanctimoniousness not one of your stronger points. But It amuses me that all this self-righteous, RBB-bashing will be forgotten down the track once our problems are sorted, Then everyone will go back to exclaming how wonderful we are, how great our Tifos have been & what an amazing atmosphere we create... Too many love/hate relationships at the moment for some people lol It isn't self righteous, people are calling as they see it, and it looked shite. At least try and get the other supporters to try and understand what the protest is all about / get some communication going! Personally I think all the how wonderful the RBB comments have ****ed up some heads in the RBB and over inflated some ego's Thank god we have enough people like you to rip us back down & put us in our place.
ATP Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Mixtaa i simply posted in caps those who have really caught my attention :-) As i said to Malone earlier, i much enjoy and prefer engaging in conversation in person, face to face rather then online
WestGrub Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Well this thread brought a shitload of people out of the woodwork! Where have you all been?? Lol Anyway, too many keyboard warriors on here happy to ride the internet security wave, DMIXTAA STAVUP AND ESPECIALLY ---->>> M-A-L-O-N-E Id really like to talk to you guys in person :-) Can you just please read what you posted.... Obviously sanctimoniousness not one of your stronger points. But word creation is clearly one of your few strengths. It amuses me that all this self-righteous, RBB-bashing will be forgotten down the track once our problems are sorted, Then everyone will go back to exclaming how wonderful we are, how great our Tifos have been & what an amazing atmosphere we create... Too many love/hate relationships at the moment for some people lol It isn't self righteous, people are calling as they see it, and it looked shite. At least try and get the other supporters to try and understand what the protest is all about / get some communication going! Personally I think all the how wonderful the RBB comments have ****ed up some heads in the RBB and over inflated some ego's Thank god we have enough people like you to rip us back down & put us in our place.
Smoggy Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 My take: Self-indulgent kids chucking toys out of the cot, severely over-stating self-worth. Now that flak is received from real supporters, defensive stance, "you don't know what it's about!" Here is an actual transcript of audio from today's protest: "What do we want?" "We can't say!" "When do we want it?" "We will tell you tomorrow!" Spot on
Delije Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 (Pointing to RBB) ..... who are ya, who are ya! Are you here to support the boys on the park or yourselves? You break the rules you pay the consequences - support your foorball team or go support a lawn bowles club! The RBB support YOUR team more than anyone in the stands. What complete and utter bullish*t. This is the elitist attitude that shows what is wrong with some in the RBB. Its all about self aggrandisement for them, not the club. Sorry MATE. ..sorry to break your wish..I'm a black and white member.. A VERY active supporter at away games..so your comment means ****..continue on being anti RBB as much as you like...it's people like you who sit behind the keyboard and talk crap who don't put **** in any effort of organizing any tifos, marches, songs..your the one who sits and boasts how good it is up until now. Farkkk off mate, your quick to jump conclusions and be anti RBB without understanding the full story. Grow up Mate and take a back seat! FairPlay 1
Delije Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 You guys realise EVERYONE who has ever been humiliated by the RBB's attendance at a match is now taking cheap shots left right and centre ? All you have done is lower yourselves to the pathetic levels of the NT and the Cove, all you have done is drop the noise levels to the pathetic levels of the CCM fans and the Jets fans. Except when the two sets of supporters took matters into their own hands and delivered a great set of WDYSFs. Well done Eastern stand for getting the ball rolling. We in the West actually had quite an amusing time. Spoke to some of our neighbours for the first time. A few of us attempted to join in a "Come On You Wanderers" started above us ...but it didn't quite lift off much as what the Eastern.side got started. We actually had quite a bit of good spirit. Had a few attempts at "Can't Hear the RBB Sing" Chanted "Wan-der-ers" during the Posnan. Shame about the result- the Jets clearly the better team. Not a bad evening for a lot of quite unexpected reasons. That's great Wendy..maybe you can put your name in the hat to be the next capo when the RBB are not there anymore. FairPlay 1
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